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    Trump Fires Sec. of Defense Esper, Replaces with Christopher Miller - Hires Col. MacGregor

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/09/t...jKzrye2tzy4FNT


    Trump and Esper have reportedly clashed over a number of issues, including the renaming of military bases named after Confederate military figures.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Also read somewhere that he has unfriended/unfollowed Netanyahu & AIPAC lobby on twitter.

    Bold moves in last few weeks of his term.

    #winning

    #surroundedbythebest

    #hiresthebestpeople



    ETA: earlier social media speculation about a BLM supporter being appointed new CoS are not confirmed by MSM reporting but this is another win for diversity on the heels of Trump appointing first black Airforce Chief in US history.
    Trump's pivot towards 'diversity is our strength' model seems to be from the heart as he has no more elections to win, all those in fakenews media who called him 'racist' over last 4 years should apologize to Trump.


    Donald Trump puts ultra-loyalists in top jobs after Pentagon purge | Daily Mail Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    NOTABLE
    Yes, notable, since Esper was replaced with a top terrorism expert (<---term is open to interpretation) and even more especially notable after the heads of the nuclear arsenal in DoE were also replaced last week. Trump admin's MO regarding the DoD (among other departments) has been to replace Secretaries when their job mission changes and with only cursory excuses like "clashes over Confederate base naming". No one really believes that SecDefs are replaced for stupid stuff like base naming, do they? They're rotating staff in and out as their expertise is needed.
    Last edited by devil21; 11-10-2020 at 01:10 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    dp
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    The troops WILL be home by Christmas.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Yes, notable, since Esper was replaced with a top terrorism expert (<---term is open to interpretation) and even more especially notable after the heads of the nuclear arsenal in DoE were also replaced last week. Trump admin's MO regarding the DoD (among other departments) has been to replace Secretaries when their job mission changes and with only cursory excuses like "clashes over Confederate base naming". No one really believes that SecDefs are replaced for stupid stuff like base naming, do they? They're rotating staff in and out as their expertise is needed.
    Esper was against the use of the Insurrection Act.


    Insurrection Act
    Martial Law
    Military Tribunals

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    ....and even more especially notable after the heads of the nuclear arsenal in DoE were also replaced last week.
    Frau Doktor Gordon-Hagerty resigned because Orange Man failed to support her in budget negotiations with the House when she was trying to get more money for the W93 program. Since it's dead under the incoming B-H Administration, she is likely cutting her strings and looking for her next position in Mordor on the Potomac. That's what patrons of the political aristocracy do.

    https://www.defensenews.com/smr/nucl...appropriators/
    “The NNSA proposed to manage the W93 modernization activity using the joint Department of Energy-Department of Defense nuclear weapons lifecycle process, but the Committee is concerned that this process is out of date and does not include current best practices,” the appropriators added. “Until such questions and concerns are adequately addressed, the Committee will not consider funding for this activity.”

    While the $53 million in NNSA funds is not a major figure, any delay in the development of the W93 could push the expected deployment not just for America, but for the United Kingdom, which plans to buy a version of the warhead. And there is speculation in the nuclear community that former Vice President Joe Biden, should he win the presidency in November’s election, would look to cancel the nascent program.
    Bey, hey! Believe what you want.

    XNN
    "They sell us the president the same way they sell us our clothes and our cars. They sell us every thing from youth to religion the same time they sell us our wars. I want to know who the men in the shadows are. I want to hear somebody asking them why. They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are but theyre never the ones to fight or to die." - Jackson Browne Lives In The Balance



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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    Esper was against the use of the Insurrection Act.


    Insurrection Act
    Martial Law
    Military Tribunals

    Who we goin after?
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    Frau Doktor Gordon-Hagerty resigned because Orange Man failed to support her in budget negotiations with the House when she was trying to get more money for the W93 program. Since it's dead under the incoming B-H Administration, she is likely cutting her strings and looking for her next position in Mordor on the Potomac. That's what patrons of the political aristocracy do.

    https://www.defensenews.com/smr/nucl...appropriators/


    Bey, hey! Believe what you want.

    XNN
    It was multiple positions replaced, including that one. Are you saying that multiple people left/were fired because one component of their oversight program, a particular new warhead development program, might not be funded in the future? You may be right but that doesn't make much sense to me since that's only one part of the job. Is it SOP for incoming administrations to replace DoE staff that oversee nuclear arsenal programs? I'd think we'd want continuity in those positions....
    Last edited by devil21; 11-10-2020 at 03:30 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The troops WILL be home by Christmas.
    Which troops from where?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Another top DoD official (Undersecretary for Policy) out, likely to be replaced by another terrorism/muslim-centric figure.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ter-esper-exit

    I don't want to draw too many conclusions just yet but if this keeps up, the stacking of the top of the Pentagon with these kinds of people is concerning about what they may be preparing for.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The troops WILL be home by Christmas.
    The all caps means it's double plus true!

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Who we goin after?
    See: Q

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    This is Jake Tapper but he is claiming one of the reasons Esper may have been removed is because he did not support Trump's Afghan pull out.

    THE SQUAD of RPF
    1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The troops WILL be home by Christmas.

    Trump Performs ‘Near Total Decapitation’ Of Pentagon Leadership As Speculation Swirls Around Afghanistan
    November 11, 2020

    President Donald Trump has performed a “near-total decapitation” of civilian leadership within the Department of Defense this week, with speculation flying that the officials disagreed with plans for a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper, Esper’s chief of staff, top Pentagon policy official Mark Tomb and other senior officials this week.


    “Pentagon finally confirms near total decapitation of civilian leadership in the last 24 hours. Secretary of Defense Esper fired Monday, the top Pentagon Policy official, top Defense Department intelligence official, and chief of staff to the Defense Secretary all out today,” CNN’s Ryan Browne reported Monday.

    A Trump administration official explained the firings to The Intercept as necessary for ending America’s longstanding military deployments in the Middle East, which Trump has termed “forever wars.” It was rumored throughout this fall that Trump planned to fire Esper after the election, though now Esper says it was his plan to resign regardless of the election outcome, according to Time Magazine.
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/11/t...cjcpo09MSY690I
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    They're at Langley right now just waiting on the order. Any minute day week month year decade now...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    They're at Langley right now just waiting on the order. Any minute day week month year decade now...
    If you convert the letters in Q's last drop to numbers, multiply by pi, divide by Trump's birthday, then throw that out and make something up, you'll know when.
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 11-11-2020 at 04:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    If you convert the letters in Q's last drop to numbers, multiply by pi, divide by Trump's birthday, then throw that out and make something up, you'll know when.
    Why do you naively assume that when Q said Trump he meant Donald Trump?




    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Why do you naively assume that when Q said Trump he meant Donald Trump?


    Why is Sacha Baron Cohen suddenly in the news?

    What is Barron Trump's future in the subsequent move film of our lives?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The troops WILL be home by Christmas.

    Trump Performs ‘Near Total Decapitation’ Of Pentagon Leadership As Speculation Swirls Around Afghanistan
    November 11, 2020

    President Donald Trump has performed a “near-total decapitation” of civilian leadership within the Department of Defense this week, with speculation flying that the officials disagreed with plans for a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper, Esper’s chief of staff, top Pentagon policy official Mark Tomb and other senior officials this week.


    “Pentagon finally confirms near total decapitation of civilian leadership in the last 24 hours. Secretary of Defense Esper fired Monday, the top Pentagon Policy official, top Defense Department intelligence official, and chief of staff to the Defense Secretary all out today,” CNN’s Ryan Browne reported Monday.

    A Trump administration official explained the firings to The Intercept as necessary for ending America’s longstanding military deployments in the Middle East, which Trump has termed “forever wars.”
    It was rumored throughout this fall that Trump planned to fire Esper after the election, though now Esper says it was his plan to resign regardless of the election outcome, according to Time Magazine.
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/11/t...cjcpo09MSY690I
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Who we goin after?
    RPF members who voted for Biden.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

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    Trump administration installs advocate for quick Afghanistan withdrawal at Pentagon

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...om-afghanistan

    New acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller has hired a senior adviser who has frequently pressed for the quick removal of U.S. troops in Afghanistan, the Defense Department confirmed Wednesday.
    Retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor “will be serving as a Senior Advisor to the Acting Secretary of Defense. Mr. MacGregor’s decades of military experience will be used to assist in the continued implementation of the President’s national security priorities,” a Pentagon spokesperson told The Hill.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/11/polit...gon/index.html

    An ardent opponent of the US military's presence in Afghanistan who once called for the use of lethal force against illegal immigrants and has made a litany of racist comments has been made a senior adviser at the Pentagon.

    A Pentagon spokesman confirmed Wednesday that retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor "will be serving as a Senior Advisor to the Acting Secretary of Defense. Mr. MacGregor's decades of military experience will be used to assist in the continued implementation of the President's national security priorities."


    Lots of puzzle pieces are moving.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...om-afghanistan

    New acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller has hired a senior adviser who has frequently pressed for the quick removal of U.S. troops in Afghanistan, the Defense Department confirmed Wednesday.
    Retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor “will be serving as a Senior Advisor to the Acting Secretary of Defense. Mr. MacGregor’s decades of military experience will be used to assist in the continued implementation of the President’s national security priorities,” a Pentagon spokesperson told The Hill.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/11/polit...gon/index.html

    An ardent opponent of the US military's presence in Afghanistan who once called for the use of lethal force against illegal immigrants and has made a litany of racist comments has been made a senior adviser at the Pentagon.

    A Pentagon spokesman confirmed Wednesday that retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor "will be serving as a Senior Advisor to the Acting Secretary of Defense. Mr. MacGregor's decades of military experience will be used to assist in the continued implementation of the President's national security priorities."


    Lots of puzzle pieces are moving.
    You must spread some reputation around.......
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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