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    Trump can still win

    Trump can still win the war in Afghanistan. If you're gonna go out, go out like a winner. Bring the boys home, declare America's longest war won, and have winning be the final legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Trump can still win the war in Afghanistan. If you're gonna go out, go out like a winner. Bring the boys home, declare America's longest war won, and have winning be the final legacy.
    Nice thought if he can actually do it.

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    Great thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Trump can still win the war in Afghanistan. If you're gonna go out, go out like a winner. Bring the boys home, declare America's longest war won, and have winning be the final legacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We are now going to leave Iraq entirely and that will force us to leave Syria too, we also withdrew some troops from Saudi Arabia and are well on the way to leaving Afghanistan.
    From: Trump has deployed 14,000 additional troops to the Middle East since May 2019


    He still has over a month in office, anything is possible when a leader is as bold and decisive as him.
    Let's bump this thread in a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Trump can still win the war in Afghanistan. If you're gonna go out, go out like a winner. Bring the boys home, declare America's longest war won, and have winning be the final legacy.
    What's in it for him?
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    Perhaps he will give us one last gift to isreal.......

    a hot war with iran.

    Mike Pence can run in '24 on Biden's botched handling of our newest war.

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    Trump will win the election and continue to bring troops home from all over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    What's in it for him?
    A legacy of being the prez who ended Afgan war??? Something to be remembered kindly for.

    As opposed to handcuffing himself to the oval office and refusing to leave Costanza style. Not a good final impression.

    Even with whatever fraud that happened, unless he's 1000% sure this recount/lawsuit/court case will win, he's gonna look like a sore loser. And the thing that bugs trump the most is being unpopular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Trump can still win the war in Afghanistan. If you're gonna go out, go out like a winner. Bring the boys home, declare America's longest war won, and have winning be the final legacy.
    That would be awesome. His last E.O. to remove all troops and support from Afghanistan. Then, leave it to Biden to come up with a justification to reinsert troops again. The argument about terrorist threat is weak.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    What's in it for him?
    Since when does Trump do anything in the last 5 years because there is something "in it for him"?

    He lost hundreds of millions, possibly over a billion dollars just by becoming President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    As opposed to handcuffing himself to the oval office and refusing to leave Costanza style. Not a good final impression.

    Even with whatever fraud that happened, unless he's 1000% sure this recount/lawsuit/court case will win, he's gonna look like a sore loser. And the thing that bugs trump the most is being unpopular.
    That's RINO loserthink.

    You don't concede to such blatant fraud ever.
    The left is successful because they don't worry about looking "nice" and we have to stop worrying about it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Trump can still win the war in Afghanistan. If you're gonna go out, go out like a winner. Bring the boys home, declare America's longest war won, and have winning be the final legacy.
    That would be awesome. His last E.O. to remove all troops and support from Afghanistan. Then, leave it to Biden to come up with a justification to reinsert troops again. The argument about terrorist threat is weak.
    Not gonna happen (assuming Trump is out in January).

    He'd be a lame duck. Biden wouldn't have to come up with any justification, because the MIC would just drag its heels long enough to run the clock out.

    Then Biden just orders up a "surge" ... (perhaps after some conveniently dramatic event that "proves" how foolish it was to ever have reduced the US presence in the first place ...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Since when does Trump do anything in the last 5 years because there is something "in it for him"?

    He lost hundreds of millions, possibly over a billion dollars just by becoming President.
    I don't think these lawsuits will help him if the judges are mostly liberal. If the Americans on the left did indeed vote more then they did for Obama for more of the same nonsense we had seen for the past 8 years ago. Then the whole system in America has a problem.

    I still doubt that 70M voted that much more then they have so for over Obama? something has been strange with the American election for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Not gonna happen (assuming Trump is out in January).

    He'd be a lame duck. Biden wouldn't have to come up with any justification, because the MIC would just drag its heels long enough to run the clock out.

    Then Biden just orders up a "surge" ... (perhaps after some conveniently dramatic event that "proves" how foolish it was to ever have reduced the US presence in the first place ...)
    Then you would have Biden/Harris supporters digging it up by supporting the surge. Last time i remember during the Obama admin, the Obama supporters were strangely quiet when he started bombing Yemen by going as far to support the Saudis. Biden also claimed he will cut the ties with the Saudis, yeah i am not seeing that happening anytime in this life time.

    I am also doubting the American unemployment rate system to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    I don't think these lawsuits will help him if the judges are mostly liberal. If the Americans on the left did indeed vote more then they did for Obama for more of the same nonsense we had seen for the past 8 years ago. Then the whole system in America has a problem.

    I still doubt that 70M voted that much more then they have so for over Obama? something has been strange with the American election for sure.
    They can appeal the lawsuits to higher courts, where Trump put in a lot of judges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    They can appeal the lawsuits to higher courts, where Trump put in a lot of judges.
    The judges loyalties are not to Trump, but to the conception of the modernist liberal democratic state. The idea that a judge will, by decree, flip several states, or give course the path to have several states flipped by recount, is quite likely chimeric. There needs to be unassailable evidence of both fraud and a clear culprit within the Democratic Party.

    To me, the most compelling evidence is how the Biden votes don't follow Benford's Law (a clear sign of electoral chicanery, up until four days ago) and the bizarre increases in voting in just the counties Biden needed to come out victorious. Alas, those are rather abstract, and not likely to move an agent of the modernist liberal democratic state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    The judges loyalties are not to Trump, but to the conception of the modernist liberal democratic state. The idea that a judge will, by decree, flip several states, or give course the path to have several states flipped by recount, is quite likely chimeric. There needs to be unassailable evidence of both fraud and a clear culprit within the Democratic Party.

    To me, the most compelling evidence is how the Biden votes don't follow Benford's Law (a clear sign of electoral chicanery, up until four days ago) and the bizarre increases in voting in just the counties Biden needed to come out victorious. Alas, those are rather abstract, and not likely to move an agent of the modernist liberal democratic state.
    There is more evidence of fraud and lawbreaking than just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There are is more evidence of fraud and lawbreaking than just that.
    Very possibly. But the question is will that evidence hold up in court, and is there an implicated transgressor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    Very possibly. But the question is will that evidence hold up in court, and is there an implicated transgressor?
    Yes it will and yes there is but there doesn't have to be, you don't need Biden to personally order fraud, the fraudulent result is not sanctified by his ignorance, the voters were still cheated even if the inaccurate count was the result of a legitimate error or actual machine malfunction.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    He can pardon Assange and Snowden while he is at it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    The judges loyalties are not to Trump, but to the conception of the modernist liberal democratic state. The idea that a judge will, by decree, flip several states, or give course the path to have several states flipped by recount, is quite likely chimeric. There needs to be unassailable evidence of both fraud and a clear culprit within the Democratic Party.

    To me, the most compelling evidence is how the Biden votes don't follow Benford's Law (a clear sign of electoral chicanery, up until four days ago) and the bizarre increases in voting in just the counties Biden needed to come out victorious. Alas, those are rather abstract, and not likely to move an agent of the modernist liberal democratic state.


    When you close counting vote at 1 am. send observers home.. then resume counting at 4 am without observers and dump 130k ballots 100% for Biden... What do you call that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    When you close counting vote at 1 am. send observers home.. then resume counting at 4 am without observers and dump 130k ballots 100% for Biden... What do you call that?
    Ironic State of Alaska still hasn't been called on Google for Trump. With 50% in. I am still finding it strange that 70M voted more for Biden over Obama? yeah that is strange.

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    Not only can he, he will win . And if he doesnt win, its because the mobs decide to go ape $#@!.

    Arizona is going to be red MONDAY, you people are idiots , youre all distracted by PA but dont pay attention to how key Arizona was . ARIZONA was going to set the stage and gauge ....it would prove that the californians that moved to Az mostly turned red! but arizona had to be frozen because the establishment KNOWS that Arizona would set Nevada into motion ,it being 1 hour behind in pollings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    Not only can he, he will win . And if he doesnt win, its because the mobs decide to go ape $#@!.

    Arizona is going to be red MONDAY, you people are idiots , youre all distracted by PA but dont pay attention to how key Arizona was . ARIZONA was going to set the stage and gauge ....it would prove that the californians that moved to Az mostly turned red! but arizona had to be frozen because the establishment KNOWS that Arizona would set Nevada into motion ,it being 1 hour behind in pollings.
    Why would people from Nevada care what happened in Arizona?

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    Trump should easily do that if he can't get reelected. Pardoning Snowden and Assange would be great too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Not gonna happen (assuming Trump is out in January).

    He'd be a lame duck. Biden wouldn't have to come up with any justification, because the MIC would just drag its heels long enough to run the clock out.

    Then Biden just orders up a "surge" ... (perhaps after some conveniently dramatic event that "proves" how foolish it was to ever have reduced the US presence in the first place ...)
    True, your right. However, at least it would bring the war there back in the press and perhaps (wishful thinking) people will remember 1) Oh yeah we have troops there. And 2)how wasteful it is.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    Not only can he, he will win . And if he doesnt win, its because the mobs decide to go ape $#@!.

    Arizona is going to be red MONDAY, you people are idiots , youre all distracted by PA but dont pay attention to how key Arizona was . ARIZONA was going to set the stage and gauge ....it would prove that the californians that moved to Az mostly turned red! but arizona had to be frozen because the establishment KNOWS that Arizona would set Nevada into motion ,it being 1 hour behind in pollings.
    Indeed
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Perhaps he will give us one last gift to isreal.......

    a hot war with iran.

    Mike Pence can run in '24 on Biden's botched handling of our newest war.

    Anything is possible, let's hope not.. even if such a 'bad for American interests' move could boost funding propsects in case of Trump clan future Presidential run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    He can pardon Assange and Snowden while he is at it too.
    From Deep Neocons/Deep Pockets funding standpoint, that could be bad for an Ivanka 2028 or Donny Jr 2028 run.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump will win the election and continue to bring troops home from all over.
    Yep and freedom is just around the corner.

    you are living in delusion vile.

    Hey isn’t your troll job almost over here? Funding should be drying up right?
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    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    He can pardon Assange and Snowden while he is at it too.
    This!
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    Not only can he, he will win . And if he doesnt win, its because the mobs decide to go ape $#@!.

    Arizona is going to be red MONDAY, you people are idiots , youre all distracted by PA but dont pay attention to how key Arizona was . ARIZONA was going to set the stage and gauge ....it would prove that the californians that moved to Az mostly turned red! but arizona had to be frozen because the establishment KNOWS that Arizona would set Nevada into motion ,it being 1 hour behind in pollings.
    How close were you tracking that one?

    Last night when you posted this they showed 49% - 49.5% with 90% reporting, and Trump seemed to be on a path to victory since he was coming up on so many votes in the conservative areas with each new drop. Now they are showing 49% - 49.5% with 97% reporting..
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    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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