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    Trump worried about the stock market only to discover Wall Street doesn’t care if he loses

    Trump spent years worrying about the stock market only to discover Wall Street doesn’t care if he loses
    Wall Street was fine with a Donald Trump presidency. Turns out it’s good with a Joe Biden presidency, too.

    Joe Biden is president-elect, and Wall Street mostly feels fine about it.

    Investors learned to ignore Donald Trump’s erratic tweets over the last four years and focus on deregulation and tax cuts. And now that his presidency is coming to an end, Wall Street appears to be putting on blinders yet again and brushing off the president’s flailing attempts to cast doubt on the election outcome and stay in power.

    The market was good with Trump entering the White House four years ago. It’s good with him leaving it four years later, too.

    For years, Trump has taken credit for the stock market’s performance — at least when it’s up. In the lead-up to the 2020 election, he consistently claimed that if he were to lose, stocks would plunge. “If I don’t win, you’re going to see a crash like you’ve never seen before,” he told business leaders in February. Vote for him, he said, or 401(k)s were “down the tubes,” would “disintegrate and disappear,” could be kissed goodbye.

    But this week has been a decent one for 401(k)s. Stocks were up Wednesday and Thursday as a Biden victory grew nearer. They dipped slightly Friday, but indexes were mainly flat as investors also digested the October jobs report and the ongoing global pandemic. Wall Street is on track for its best week since April.

    It turns out the market is impossible to predict — even for the president of the United States.
    https://www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/21552643/stock-market-election-results-reaction


    The stock market wins either way in this election, imho.
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    Exactly. Under Biden they will still be able to manipulate the markets. In fact, it will be easier, because the markets will be more stable without Trump's toddler tantrums.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The stock market...

    You're glad Biden won because you voted for him.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    You're glad Biden won because you voted for him.
    Please- can you just STOP with the insults?
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Please- can you just STOP with the insults?
    How is that an insult when it's true? The Count voted for Biden.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    How is that an insult when it's true? The Count voted for Biden.
    Link?
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Link?

    que?
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    The stock market likes President and congress of opposing parties, or Trump.
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    This is pretty tough break for stable genius who measures everything in $$$s. He used to work so hard on his tweets to Fed Reserve and now Wall Street not just kept choogling along but broke centuries old records in post election jumps on news of MAGA losing.

    Now Biden and Kamala will take credit for all his past manipulations hard work to boost Wall St indexes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    How is that an insult when it's true? The Count voted for Biden.
    So did I. As I said in another post, instead of voting or writing in Ron Paul like I did for the last 3 elections, this time I decided to vote directly against Trump by supporting his opponent. Any one other than Trump would have resulted in me writing in Ron Paul again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    instead of voting or writing in Ron Paul like I did for the last 3 elections
    LOL. No, you didn't.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    LOL. No, you didn't.
    Ok, thanks for letting me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    Ok, thanks for letting me know.

    Any time, sock puppet.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Any time, sock puppet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    We've never had a president with zero dignity before, so this will be a first. The Electoral College is a farce...


    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    LOL good luck your photoshop but Rand's not getting my vote. He's no Ron, not to mention the GOP lost me forever with the dirty tricks they pulled on Paul supporters during the primaries, and Rand is staunch GOP. I'll be voting Lib in 2016. Or writing in Ron again if Johnson runs.

    LOL. There was another clown here railing against the electoral college, railing against Rand, etc. Was it Influenza? Or are you somebody else? I can't keep track of you bozos.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    So did I. As I said in another post, instead of voting or writing in Ron Paul like I did for the last 3 elections, this time I decided to vote directly against Trump by supporting his opponent. Any one other than Trump would have resulted in me writing in Ron Paul again.
    Didn't vote for Rand (the most libertarian senator in US history) and voted for Biden. Yet, has an LP link under his posts.

    Not surprising. A significant number of Ron's voters were just malcontent, contrarian nihilists with no interest in living in a free society.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    LOL. There was another clown here railing against the electoral college, railing against Rand, etc. Was it Influenza? Or are you somebody else? I can't keep track of you bozos.
    So you just proved my positions are the same as they were years ago. Yes, I didn't vote for Rand and wrote in Ron Paul. Now years later you're attempting to convince me that I didn't write in Ron Paul lol. Not sure what your point is. Yes I still believe the Electoral College system is BS, just like the Orange Doofus did prior to it becoming his only chance at winning. Unlike Chump, I don't change my positions on a whim, as you've seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Didn't vote for Rand (the most libertarian senator in US history) and voted for Biden. Yet, has an LP link under his posts.

    Not surprising. A significant number of Ron's voters were just malcontent, contrarian nihilists with no interest in living in a free society.
    Apparently, you didn't understand my post above. I didn't vote for Biden this time because I believed he would make a good president. I voted for Biden simply to help Trump lose. Writing in Ron Paul again wouldn't have done that. I'm a registered Libertarian, why are you surprised that I have an LP link? I vote LP downballot whenever I can assuming I agree with the candidates positions. LP presidential candidates have admittedly been horrible, so I've voted or wrote in Ron Paul. So I'm not interested in liberty but TRUMP is passed of as a LIBERTY candidate on this board? LOL. Anyone who was here circa 2012 KNOWS that Chump would NEVER have been accepted as a liberty candidate on RPF back then. This is the bizarro version of RPF lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    So you just proved my positions are the same as they were years ago. Yes, I didn't vote for Rand and wrote in Ron Paul. Now years later you're attempting to convince me that I didn't write in Ron Paul lol. Not sure what your point is. Yes I still believe the Electoral College system is BS, just like the Orange Doofus did prior to it becoming his only chance at winning. Unlike Chump, I don't change my positions on a whim, as you've seen.

    Okay, sock.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    It’s a sad state of affairs on a liberty forum that differences of opinion are not only frowned upon, but scorned, ridiculed, and personally insulted.

    How can anyone be so sure that their morally superior belief system has not been compromised by constantly living in their own little safe internet ghettos absolutely full of propaganda. Everyone can be manipulated, except for you of course. The most helpless slave is the one that believes he is free. There’s a lot of that going on.

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    Let Biden make good on his promise to end fossil fuels and see what happens to the economy then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    As long as there is a stock market investors will arrange the stock portfolio according to whether they need a bear or bull market approach.
    But there are no stock markets in socialist regimes.
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    Markets are little more than Treasury, Fed, Blackrock and Citadel saying what the numbers are every day. There were attempts to sell off (2 weeks ago) but magically all indexes rocketed right back up the next week on no news whatsoever, mostly on the back of overnight futures buying on no volume. That's a hallmark of outright centralized manipulation.

    They'll let it drop again when they need a new crisis excuse to roll out another piece of the Great Reset agenda, such as the Fed's direct payment digital dollar system, which bypasses Treasury entirely. Think about what kinds of scenarios would require the Fed to push new money directly into bank accounts without the Treasury involved (sending checks, eg) or even Congress being unable to act. That could be next week or months from now or anything in between. The "market" is dead and is only a tool being used to manage public perception/social engineering. Sheep says: "At least I have $XXXXX in my 401k still, even though my small business is destroyed. I guess I'm still ok and don't need to revolt."


    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    As long as there is a stock market investors will arrange the stock portfolio according to whether they need a bear or bull market approach.
    But there are no stock markets in socialist regimes.
    You make a valid point but only in the case of outright overt socialist/communist regimes. This has been a socialist country for a long time. "Markets" existed. I'd argue that the distinction is that there are no "free markets" in such regimes and these markets haven't been "free" for a long time. Not since at least 1933 when metals were banned and the Exchange Stabilization Fund, now used to manipulate markets, was created. We're now in that socialist/communist paradigm where the central planners dictate what prices of goods/stocks/assets are. The rest is a facade. That is today's "markets" exactly. Daily price fixing by central planners.

    The big change will be when average people have no access to markets at all. No 401ks, no IRAs, no trading accounts, etc. That's part of the WEF's Great Reset promise that, by 2030, "You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy."

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    Stock market magic was one of Trump's big success, the way Biden camp ( or deep stage?) is playing this is almost sad to watch.


    Dow Jones Soars 1,600 Points On Effective Coronavirus Vaccine

    SCOTT LEHTONEN
    • 12:08 PM ET 11/09/2020


    The Dow Jones Industrial Average briefly soared more than 1,600 points on coronavirus vaccine news Monday. Apple and Tesla raced higher in the current stock market rally. Coronavirus vaccine developers Pfizer and BioNTech surged as much as 15% and 25%, respectively.


    Granted market gave back part of its jump, it is historic still.



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    the stock market wont exist ......china buys it up , of course the wallstreet traitors dont care

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Stock market magic was one of Trump's big success, the way Biden camp ( or deep stage?) is playing this is almost sad to watch.


    Dow Jones Soars 1,600 Points On Effective Coronavirus Vaccine

    SCOTT LEHTONEN
    • 12:08 PM ET 11/09/2020


    The Dow Jones Industrial Average briefly soared more than 1,600 points on coronavirus vaccine news Monday. Apple and Tesla raced higher in the current stock market rally. Coronavirus vaccine developers Pfizer and BioNTech surged as much as 15% and 25%, respectively.


    Granted market gave back part of its jump, it is historic still.
    Everyone knows that coronavirus goes away if Biden becomes POTUS. The vaccine announcement was icing on the cake.

    People started moving back into stocks that had been beaten down by COVID shutdowns. Portfolios being shuffled. Taking money out of tech to prepare for a return of travel. Fed still ensuring there is no money in fixed income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Everyone knows that coronavirus goes away if Biden becomes POTUS.
    Get ready for claims that President Biden is/was personally responsible for one of the greatest economic rebounds/recoveries in the history of ever ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    So did I. As I said in another post, instead of voting or writing in Ron Paul like I did for the last 3 elections, this time I decided to vote directly against Trump by supporting his opponent. Any one other than Trump would have resulted in me writing in Ron Paul again.
    So you voted directly to put me out business and bankrupt my family.

    $#@! $#@!ing you...I hope you freeze to death this winter, $#@!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Not surprising. A significant number of Ron's voters were just malcontent, contrarian nihilists with no interest in living in a free society
    I was surprised when I first came to that realization as well.

    I am no longer surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So you voted directly to put me out business and bankrupt my family.

    $#@! $#@!ing you...I hope you freeze to death this winter, $#@!.
    But welfare will be easier to get.

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