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    Election 2020: Mob Rule Has Arrived

    Election 2020: Mob Rule Has Arrived



    With the election results still in limbo two days after the vote was held, and widespread charges of vote fraud, America faces a crisis of confidence in the electoral system that is on the verge of unleashing the mob onto the streets. A delegitimized occupant in the presidency is not the worst thing from a libertarian perspective, but the mob gathering steam is a danger to all. How will it all play out?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    “They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



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    Summary: Ron Paul declares shenanigans. Ballots being counted in secret. Loads of "found" votes are coming in that are 100% for Biden.


    The Democrats are at the final option.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    ...
    Cheating takes some finesse. You don't need to cheat if you are winning. That’s the purpose of delayed ballots, whether it is ballot harvesting or mail-in ballots. You do as much cheating as you can without being obvious up till election day. If you are still losing at the end of election day, you probably have a good idea how much more cheating you will have to do in order to win. You just want to do enough to win.

    If you are behind by 100 votes, you can find 100 votes for your opponent, and 201 votes for you. Not too obvious.

    If you are behind by 10,000 votes, it gets more difficult. You might have to find 200 votes for the opposition, and 10,202 votes for you. The wider the margin on election day, the more obvious the cheating becomes in the following days.

    But they are without shame. If every single ballot they find after election day is for Biden, they will do it with a straight face, outrage at any questions, and an army of lawyers to back them up. Lie, cheat and steal. They even say it out loud sometimes.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    “They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1324422818637991937
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    “They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Hypocrisy.

    It's only mob rule when Republicans lose.

    I didn't hear anybody complain when Trump won.

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    Per registered decision, member has been banned for violating community standards as interpreted by TheTexan (respect his authoritah) as authorized by Brian4Liberty Ruling

    May God have mercy on his atheist, police-hating, non-voting, anarchist soul.
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 11-18-2020 at 02:43 PM.
    It happened sometime after they Made America Great Again. You see, I grew a bit weary from all the winning.

    Remember the number one rule of libertarianism: Bad things don't just happen; bad things require dark and insidious forces to make them happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Yeah, I looked at the title on Brian's post:

    ... and said to myself, "Election ... Mob Rule ... Isn't that the Law of Identity?
    While I would like to take credit for the title, it came straight from the Liberty Report.

    And yes, most libertarians are familiar with the comparisons of democracy with mob rule. But @PRB isn't a libertarian of any type. He's a socialist here to troll.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    “They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    Hypocrisy.

    It's only mob rule when Republicans lose.

    I didn't hear anybody complain when Trump won.
    The issue isn't Biden winning or Trump winning. Did you even watch the video? People being asked to "fix" votes on November 4th, the day after the election?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Twitter has censored the President for posting a video of his official press briefer, no words.
    This is getting really bad for blatant social media bias.

    The liberty of 1st amendment rights taken from the President of America is a new low, and should concern all liberty minded people.

    Reminds me of all the dirty tricks pulled on Ron Paul in 2012.
    Et cognoscetis veritatem et veritas liberabit vos



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    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlue33 View Post
    Twitter has censored the President for posting a video of his official press briefer, no words.
    This is getting really bad for blatant social media bias.

    The liberty of 1st amendment rights taken from the President of America is a new low, and should concern all liberty minded people.

    Reminds me of all the dirty tricks pulled on Ron Paul in 2012.
    Despite PragerU's lies and lawsuits, twitter has absolutely nothing to do with 1st amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1324422818637991937
    The explanation was that instead of reporting the total only one candidates votes are added, but then it was corrected. Maybe if the question was give a "legitimate" reason, the answer would be different because adding only 1 candidates votes isn't legitimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    The explanation was that instead of reporting the total only one candidates votes are added, but then it was corrected. Maybe if the question was give a "legitimate" reason, the answer would be different because adding only 1 candidates votes isn't legitimate.
    why are you destroying a perfectly sound conspiracy theory?

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    The massive fraud to which we are now witness is the most obvious symptom of a far deeper cancer: the absence of security in virtually all our political processes.

    Consider Congressional votes. It is long known that there are those who sell their souls in exchange for votes in both the House and Senate. This happens only because the process of legislation is insecure.

    Police murder innocent citizens and violate the rights of innocent and guilty alike precisely because there is insufficient security tied to their actions.

    We could go down the long list and see how security of each element of formal political processes lacks sufficient controls to ensure that the rights of the people are best protected.

    And so it is with the vote. We now see in gross and appalling blatancy what is transpiring in the form of uncounted thousands of cases of fraud and/or incompetence. Also note that the practical results of fraud and incompetence are identical, the latter therefore failing to mitigate the nature or degree of the sin.

    Forget your normative complaints regarding "the system" and your similar ideals regarding proper human freedom for the moment. As practical concerns they are irrelevant at this time. The immediate concern in every American's mind, be they this flavor or that, should be the fact that the last vestiges of what was once our liberty are being snatched away from us as I write these words.

    America is now clearly in triage mode with our very lives hanging in the balance. Time is here, pals. Time is now. If we sit idly and allow what we all see happening, we will shortly lie in deep regret because the end game is now in play and close to snapping shut the trap that Theye have set with such long-term devotion. The Tyrant wants it all - our history denies any plausible argument against this point. Never before has the technology and infiltration of evil coexisted at the levels necessary to pull off such a coup. If we sit back, waiting for someone else to do the right things, we will experience sea changes as no man has ever before witnessed.

    We have been set up like bowling pins and are about to be flattened. Do with that knowledge what ye may.
    Last edited by osan; 11-07-2020 at 04:48 PM.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1324422818637991937
    In a population that large and given the other factors, it is statistically impossible, and I rarely use the I-word.

    This is clear, damning, and uncontrovertible proof that fraud is occurring. This alone should be sufficient to halt the process in all 50 states, invalidate the election, and call for some other remedy.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.


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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    In a population that large and given the other factors, it is statistically impossible, and I rarely use the I-word.

    This is clear, damning, and uncontrovertible proof that fraud is occurring. This alone should be sufficient to halt the process in all 50 states, invalidate the election, and call for some other remedy.
    if counters wanted to cheat, they wouldn't need to wait til last day, they literally had 3 weeks to do this.

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    Many on here know that I haven't supported Trump and believe he has been detrimental to our liberty. I feel that way about all of them. I am also aware that it doesn't matter who votes, but who counts the votes. A lot of us are aware of this.

    This is different. This is in your face "we decide who runs the show". It isn't about (R) and (D). It's about the subjugation of the entire planet to a top down world government control. China, but everywhere. We knew we had turn-key tyranny, especially after 2001. The key has been turned. osan and others are exactly right. This isn't some far off conspiracy fever dream. It's happening real time. Prepare accordingly. There is nothing a common man can do except stand tall and keep your powder dry.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    if counters wanted to cheat, they wouldn't need to wait til last day, they literally had 3 weeks to do this.
    Great theory. I guess they just knew how many fraud ballots they needed before they actually needed them. Interesting that you are back around.

    Nothing to see here. PRB sez.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    Great theory. I guess they just knew how many fraud ballots they needed before they actually needed them. Interesting that you are back around.

    Nothing to see here. PRB sez.
    that's stupidly easy.

    all they'd have to do is front load 60-80% of the ballots to the candidate they want, and stop counting when they think it's sufficient. if the ballots end up looking suspciously more than actual number of registered voters, then they'd just call the later votes fake, as Republicans would love to. it's really that simple.

    the fact you can't figure this out goes to show why Trump's conspiracy theory is incredibly laughable.

    We know this because

    -it's never 50/50, every state is expected to lean one way or the other
    -Trump has heavily discouraged mailed voting which makes the same day in person votes lean towards him
    -and vice versa, so as long as most votes and batches don't look 100% one way or the other, it's stupidly easy to turn a 5-10% completely the opposite way
    -are you f-ing stupid? you don't know how many ballots came in or are expected to come in? maybe that's why you can't pull off a fraud but somehow you just KNOW somebody is doing it, you can't tell me how its done
    -again whatever they can do now while everybody is watching, they had 3 weeks to do it quietly and subtly
    Last edited by PRB; 11-06-2020 at 10:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    Many on here know that I haven't supported Trump and believe he has been detrimental to our liberty.
    but i bet you also believe Democrats are worse.

    yes, it's a far off conspiracy, so far off that if they wanted to do it, they'd have done it by now.

    why steal the presidential election when you can steal the senate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    but i bet you also believe Democrats are worse.

    yes, it's a far off conspiracy, so far off that if they wanted to do it, they'd have done it by now.

    why steal the presidential election when you can steal the senate?
    I bet you are full of $#@!.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    if counters wanted to cheat, they wouldn't need to wait til last day, they literally had 3 weeks to do this.
    You clearly do not understand the fundamental nature of the problem.

    Firstly, the idea here is to win by the thinnest possible margin as that leaves Themme the greatest plausible deniability, specifically as it pertains to accusations of fraud.

    Next, because Theye have no a priori knowledge of how the election will play out in terms of vote distribution, waiting until the very end is precisely what they need in order not to flip too many votes. The larger the gap, the greater the danger even in this nation gone mad.

    As we can see, the margins of Biden's stolen victory are extremely slim - just enough to erase legal doubt, but not so much as to afford the "right" enough ammo that those in the courts would have no choice but to find for the Republicans.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    that's stupidly easy.
    Famous last words of someone who doesn't know.

    the fact you can't figure this out goes to show why Trump's conspiracy theory is incredibly laughable.
    So it is then your position that all the voter fraus that has been uncovered is all lies and conspiracy theories?

    Right.

    -are you f-ing stupid? you don't know how many ballots came in or are expected to come in? maybe that's why you can't pull off a fraud but somehow you just KNOW somebody is doing it, you can't tell me how its done
    No need to behave as if you were ill-bred.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.


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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    You clearly do not understand the fundamental nature of the problem.

    Firstly, the idea here is to win by the thinnest possible margin as that leaves Themme the greatest plausible deniability, specifically as it pertains to accusations of fraud.
    Yes, easy to estimate based on polling data.

    Next, because Theye have no a priori knowledge of how the election will play out in terms of vote distribution, waiting until the very end is precisely what they need in order not to flip too many votes. The larger the gap, the greater the danger even in this nation gone mad.
    Also very easy, considering people like you think polling is complete farce anyway, no results are particularly going to be surprising to you.

    As we can see, the margins of Biden's stolen victory are extremely slim - just enough to erase legal doubt, but not so much as to afford the "right" enough ammo that those in the courts would have no choice but to find for the Republicans.
    your theory about "so thin it'll look legit" begins with the assumption that one party wasn't leading to begin with. either way, it doesn't hurt to keep padding, you can turn a .1% lead into a 1% lead, turn a 1% lead into a 5% lead, or 5% lead into a 7% lead, why risk getting caught by cheating late when you have plenty of time to cheat early and stop counting as soon as you're in the safe zone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Famous last words of someone who doesn't know.



    So it is then your position that all the voter fraus that has been uncovered is all lies and conspiracy theories?

    Right.



    No need to behave as if you were ill-bred.
    it is my position that all claims of voter fraud are either false outright, small facts misunderstood, or not enough evidence to show that it produced a significantly different result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    if counters wanted to cheat, they wouldn't need to wait til last day, they literally had 3 weeks to do this.
    Either you are trolling or you really don't understand the problem at all.

    Good luck.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    it is my position that all claims of voter fraud are either false outright, small facts misunderstood, or not enough evidence to show that it produced a significantly different result.

    On what do you base those assertions?
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.


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    I didn’t have any more confidence in the American “democracy” than in the “American dream” to start with.

    But sending armed FBI agents to control ballot counting centres by AG Bill Barr, appears to be the most blatant way to rig the election I can imagine: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...unting-Centers
    Do NOT ever read my posts. Google and Yahoo wouldn’t block them without a very good reason: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...he-world/page3

    Donald Trump, another puppet controlled by the international elite: https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/vie...=1038&start=60

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    On what do you base those assertions?
    credibility of the people who present them, lack of corroboration, lack of context and scale that it would influnece the outcome, Occam's razor.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Either you are trolling or you really don't understand the problem at all.

    Good luck.
    no, I totally understand.

    There's no reason they need to wait last minute to sprinkle or bulk load fake ballots if that was the goal, you're a f-ing idiot if you think they needed to wait, that's exactly why your whole theory breaks down, it's not even consistent with basic facts.

    muh "they need to wait til they see how far they are behind"
    No, we already knew that, you're an idiot if you don't know this.

    muh "they can't cheat too obviously"
    Yeah, they can, after all, people like you will notice anything you don't like

    muh "but what if they end up with more ballots than supposed to exist"
    They'll never, after all, that's not how YOU determine a ballot is illegal either, you don't give a f- about how many total there are, you just mad the latter ballots aren't in your favor so you make up definitions for what counts as illegal. Also, they can trade fake ones in first, making whoever came last, even legal, as "late" if they really wanted to dilute or push out Trump votes.

    muh "they can't just throw in 100% Biden votes"
    Nor do they need to. Again, poll stats were already there and it's more true than false in almost all states, you're the only ones in denial. You can't think of a coherent cheating plan but somehow are so sure you knew it's happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    credibility of the people who present them, lack of corroboration, lack of context and scale that it would influnece the outcome, Occam's razor.
    You're not listening to the right people. You read as someone who gets his world view from CNN.

    FAIL^FAIL.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.


  34. #30
    I think we should have a MoneyBomb. lol

    Something flashy to give the MSM conversation while we wait for the SCOTUS decision.

    Just saying.
    "Never Miss a Good Chance to Shut up"



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