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    New Zealand currently trying to pass new law- not be allowed to grow food

    So you think you are going to avoid the mandatory vax and biochip to go food shopping by growing your own food. Think again.

    https://www.thescotfree.com/health/n...-1rfgx97Fl6ljg



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    Reminds me of Whitmer telling people they can't buy seeds at the grocery store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    So you think you are going to avoid the mandatory vax and biochip to go food shopping by growing your own food. Think again.
    Yes, we will. Leave the cities, and the suburbs if necessary. They are counting on people being so helpless that they are not willing to produce anything for themselves. Which will lead them to being dependent on government, and whatever mandatory laws they are aiming for. You can take away this illusion of power they hold over the people by leaving their city plantations for good.

    No one said this fight was going to be easy. It's going to be ugly and going to take a lot of sacrifice. Time to get to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    Yes, we will. Leave the cities, and the suburbs if necessary. They are counting on people being so helpless that they are not willing to produce anything for themselves. Which will lead them to being dependent on government, and whatever mandatory laws they are aiming for. You can take away this illusion of power they hold over the people by leaving their city plantations for good.

    No one said this fight was going to be easy. It's going to be ugly and going to take a lot of sacrifice. Time to get to work.
    I hope it is as easy as being on your own piece of land in the suburb or outside city limits. My fear is they will not stop at the city limit.

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    "It turns a human right (to grow food and share it) into a government-authorised privilege that can be summarily revoked."

    Governance is a citizen-authorized privilege that can be summarily revoked. And you could be damn sure I'd be doing some revoking if this $#@! begins to happen here.

    This seriously makes me seethe with anger. If this went through a state of federal congress here, I'd probably end up eating that congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    So you think you are going to avoid the mandatory vax and biochip to go food shopping by growing your own food. Think again.

    https://www.thescotfree.com/health/n...-1rfgx97Fl6ljg
    https://legaldictionary.net/wickard-v-filburn/

    WICKARD V. FILBURN

    Following is the case brief for Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942)

    Case Summary of Wickard v. Filburn:

    The Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1938 and its 1941 amendments, established quotas for wheat production. Penalties were imposed if a farmer exceeded the quotas.
    The Act was passed under Congress’ Commerce Clause power.
    Roscoe Filburn, produced twice as much wheat than the quota allowed. He was fined under the Act.
    Filburn challenged the fine in Federal District Court. He claimed that the excess wheat could not be regulated because it was for private consumption (to feed his animals, etc.) and not to sell on the market. He noted that his wheat was never in commerce, and therefore could not effect interstate commerce.
    The Federal District Court agreed with Filburn.
    The U.S. Supreme Court reversed. It held that Filburn’s excess wheat production for private use meant that he would not go to market to buy wheat for private use. While that impact may be trivial, if thousands of farmers acted like Filburn, then there would be a substantial impact on interstate commerce. Therefore, Congress’ power to regulate is proper here, even though Filburn’s excess wheat production was intrastate and non-commercial.
    Wickard v. Filburn Case Brief
    Statement of the Facts:

    As part of President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal programs, Congress passed the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1938 in response to the notion that great fluctuations in the price of wheat was damaging to the U.S. economy. The purpose of the Act was to stabilize the price of wheat by controlling the amount of wheat that was produced in the United States. Thus, the Act established quotas on how much wheat a farmer could produce, and enforced penalties on those farmers who produced wheat in excess of their quota. The Act was passed under Congress’ Commerce Power.

    Roscoe Filburn, an Ohio farmer, admitted to producing more than double the amount of wheat that the quota permitted. He was fined about $117 for the infraction. Filburn, however, challenged the fine in Federal District Court. He claimed that the excess wheat was for private consumption (to feed the animals on his farm, etc.). Because the wheat never entered commerce at all, much less interstate commerce, his wheat production was not subject to regulation under the Commerce Clause.

    Procedural History:

    The District Court agreed with Filburn. The District Court emphasized that the Secretary of Agriculture’s failure to mention increased penalties in his speech regarding the 1941 amendments to the Act, invalidated application of the Act.
    The U.S. Supreme Court decide to hear the Secretary of Agriculture’s appeal.
    Issue and Holding:

    If purely private, intrastate activity could have a substantial impact on interstate commerce, can Congress regulate it under the Commerce Power? Yes.

    Judgment:

    The decision of the District Court for the Southern District of Ohio is reversed.

    Rule of Law or Legal Principle Applied:

    Congress, under the Commerce Clause, can regulate non-commercial, intrastate activity if such activity, taken in the aggregate, would substantially impact interstate commerce.

    Reasoning:

    The power to regulate the price of something is inherent in Congress’ power to regulate commerce. Here, Filburn produced wheat in excess of quotas for private consumption. Had he not produced that extra wheat, he would have purchased wheat on the open market. While Filburn supplanting his excess wheat for wheat on the market is not substantial by itself, the cumulative actions of thousands of farmers doing what Filburn did would substantially impact interstate commerce.

    Accordingly, Congress can regulate wholly intrastate, non-commercial activity if such activity, taken in the aggregate, would have a substantial effect on interstate commerce. That is true even if the individual effects are trivial.

    Significance:

    Wickard v. Filburn is a landmark Commerce Clause case. The case dramatically increased the federal government’s regulatory power under the Commerce Clause. In fact, it set the precedent for use of the Commerce Power for decades to come. Up until the 1990s, the Court was highly deferential to Congress’ use of the Commerce Power, allowing regulation of a great deal of private economic activity.

    In 1995, however, the Court decided United States v. Lopez, which was the first time in decades that the Court decided that Congress exceeded its Commerce Clause authority. The Court found that the Commerce Power did not extend to regulating the carrying of handguns in certain places. Wickard factored prominently in the Court’s decision. More recently, Wickard has been cited in cases involving the regulation of home-grown medical marijuana, and in the Court cases regarding the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act.
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    Aren't a certain group of elites going to move to NZ?



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    https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/fo...ight-grow-food

    Correction: The bill and article was published in error as "new." The article is from 2011, and the bill did not pass, although some of the proposed regulations were passed and incorporated into the Food Act of 2014. These did make gardening illegal. We apologize for this editorial oversight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This is what happens when you freely surrender combat capable ready firearms.
    New Zealand announces ‘quarantine camps’ where positive patients will be forcibly placed

    https://thegreggjarrett.com/new-zeal...rce=socialflow

    With only 25 coronavirus deaths among a population of nearly 5 million, medical officers are now being directed to manage all positive confirmed cases in a quarantine camp.
    Jarrett Staff 31 Oct 2020

    New Zealand is taking the term ‘lockdown’ to a whole new level.

    With only 25 coronavirus deaths among a population of nearly 5 million, medical officers are now being directed to manage all positive confirmed cases in a quarantine camp, according to the Director-General of Health, Dr. Ashley Bloomfield.

    “I am now directing medical officers of health that all confirmed cases are to be managed in a quarantine facility. Now this is different to how positive cases were managed when we were last at levels 4 and indeed 3, and shows how serious we are about limiting any risk of ongoing transmission even in self isolation and including to others in the household. This will apply to any cases and also close family members who might be at risk as appropriate,” Bloomfield said.

    The nation has 32 managed isolation and quarantine facilities with operational capacity for 6260 people, Stuff reports.

    But that’s not the worst part.

    Patients will be held against their will at the quarantine camps until testing negative for the virus.

    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, of the center-left New Zealand Labour Party, announced in a video that if people sent to the quarantine facility refuse to be tested, they will be required to remain at the camp for an additional two weeks after their initial two-week stay, calling the warning a “pretty good incentive” to get tested for the virus.

    “If someone refuses, in our facilities, to be tested, they have to keep staying. So they won’t be able to leave after fourteen days, they have to stay on for another fourteen days. So it’s a pretty good incentive. You either get your tests done and make sure you cleared, or we will keep you in the facility longer. So I think people — most people will look at that and say, ‘I’ll take the test.’”

    In an interview with Laura Ingraham Tuesday, Hoover Institution senior fellow Victor Davis Hanson condemned New Zealand’s institution of quarantine camps.

    “They have a nation of 5 million people,” Hanson explained. “They’ve only lost, tragically, but they lost 25 people. That’s an astoundingly low number to throw away personal freedom.”

    The government has also ordered Air New Zealand to halt all international bookings to the country as projections show the quarantine facilities are nearing capacity.

    Starting Tuesday, anyone flying to New Zealand must have confirmed reservations at a quarantine camp. Passengers will be prohibited from boarding their flight unless they present their government issued voucher as proof.

    Board of Airlines New Zealand executive director Justin Tighe-Umbers said airlines were seeing strong demand from people returning to New Zealand between now and Christmas, according to Stuff.

    “There is limited managed isolation and quarantine accommodation, so people need to be sure they have secured a place by getting a voucher from the New Zealand Government,” he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    Yes, we will. Leave the cities, and the suburbs if necessary. They are counting on people being so helpless that they are not willing to produce anything for themselves. Which will lead them to being dependent on government, and whatever mandatory laws they are aiming for. You can take away this illusion of power they hold over the people by leaving their city plantations for good.

    No one said this fight was going to be easy. It's going to be ugly and going to take a lot of sacrifice. Time to get to work.
    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
    -Thomas Jefferson-
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