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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by bv3 View Post
    For one thing: the bridge cannot be RPFs, sadly.
    It's pretty cool that these boards are still quite active. Ron Paul ran 12 and 8 years ago. Rand 4. Not every political figure who runs for President has a message board with a lot of people on it years after they ran.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Yes. By having an actual plan an implementing it. For example:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...owerful-change

    Right now we are floundering.



    I disagree vehemently with your assessment. Do you remember the Tea Party movement? It was a mass movement on the right largely galvanized by a backlash to the TARP bailout. Remember Occupy Wallstreet? It was a mass movement on the left largely galvanized by a backlash to the TARP bailout. Remember the "Unite The Right" rally in Charlottesville? One of the organizers was from Occupy Wallstreet. How do you explain people from such disparate perspectives being angry about the same thing if it was all about Marxism?
    Easy, the Marxists were mad that Banksters were getting wealth redistributed to them instead of he Marxists.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Easy, the Marxists were mad that Banksters were getting wealth redistributed to them instead of he Marxists.
    That whooshing sound you hear is a point going over your head.
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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    It's pretty cool that these boards are still quite active. Ron Paul ran 12 and 8 years ago. Rand 4. Not every political figure who runs for President has a message board with a lot of people on it years after they ran.
    I love this place. Don't get me wrong. Its sad, but this is my community. Having said that, there has been a veritable profusion of bad actors here and thus, RPF's is not the appropriate place to begin cultivating a liberty oriented pushback to any of this. Not that it matter much, since such a push back would require the intervention of a literary caliber deus ex machina lol.

  7. #35
    Anybody here who thinks defeat is a forgone conclusion should just hang it up now. We may not get the "Ron Paul freedom" we all fantasized about in our youth but the idea that a bunch of green haired malnurished losers, government hacks, talking heads and computer nerds are going to defeat 1000 years of enlightenment in which was earned through blood is kind of weak and short sighted.
    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." —Jeff Cooper

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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    That whooshing sound you hear is a point going over your head.
    You are the one hearing a whooshing noise from the point going over your head.
    The Marxists are our enemy just as much as the Banksters.
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by TomtheTinker View Post
    Anybody here who thinks defeat is a forgone conclusion should just hang it up now. We may not get the "Ron Paul freedom" we all fantasized about in our youth but the idea that a bunch of green haired malnurished losers, government hacks, talking heads and computer nerds are going to defeat 1000 years of enlightenment in which was earned through blood is kind of weak and short sighted.
    The future is ours if we don't throw it away by refusing our true allies like Trump.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are the one hearing a whooshing noise from the point going over your head.
    The Marxists are our enemy just as much as the Banksters.
    Your explanation as to why a member of Occupy WallStreet helped organize the Unite The Right rally is.....? And not everyone on the left is a Marxist. And not everyone on the right is a capitalist.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Your explanation as to why a member of Occupy WallStreet helped organize the Unite The Right rally is.....? And not everyone on the left is a Marxist. And not everyone on the right is a capitalist.
    The answer to that question is simple, he's a fed.
    And if not a fed then a leftist trying to trick conservatives into associating with NAZIs.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by TomtheTinker View Post
    Anybody here who thinks defeat is a forgone conclusion should just hang it up now. We may not get the "Ron Paul freedom" we all fantasized about in our youth but the idea that a bunch of green haired malnurished losers, government hacks, talking heads and computer nerds are going to defeat 1000 years of enlightenment in which was earned through blood is kind of weak and short sighted.
    Do NOT under-estimate these people.

    Nobody but us, and we are a tiny remnant, believes in that 1000 year enlightenment anymore.

    This is a life or death war against a committed, organized, well funded and politically and law enforcement protected enemy.

    Yes, as individuals these people are ludicrous losers.

    But as part of a larger organization, they are a formidable force to be taken seriously and crushed.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The answer to that question is simple, he's a fed.
    And if not a fed then a leftist trying to trick conservatives into associating with NAZIs.
    He didn't have to trick them. Those who showed up did that on their own.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    He didn't have to trick them. Those who showed up did that on their own.
    They showed up to something he organized.
    And many were tricked and didn't know NAZIs were going to be there.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They showed up to something he organized.
    And many were tricked and didn't know NAZIs were going to be there.
    So....your argument is conservatives showed up to the rally because someone from Occupy Wallstreet was involved? Ummmm....okay. Retarded argument but okay. As for those who showed up without knowing about the Nazi's, the leader of the Proud Boys put the word out to his organization not to show or else they would be kicked out. Some defied his orders and showed anyway. And those who hung around the next day after the "Tiki torch" march had no excuse.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Who's fault is that? In 2008 this movement OWNED the internet! Then we got "domesticated" and "civilized." As for social media, this very forum allows people to directly post from Twitter and YouTube but not alternate sites like Mastedon or Bitchute. I posted a whole thread where James Corbett of the excellent CorbettReport.com explains how he has migrated away from being solely on YouTube and where to find him when he is ultimately purged.
    Quote Originally Posted by Badnon Wissenshaftler View Post
    Really? Is that a coding issue, or?..
    It's a coding issue. Another liberty forum, libertyauthors.com, has fixed this and you can embed bitchute and other videos.

    I'll check it out. I've been thinking about getting into some video production myself. Bitchute seems very free-speech, but needs a bit more in the way of "entertainment" material to interest the general populace. I'd be glad to begin adding both substantive and recreational material.
    True. I've noticed that libry.tv has a better mix of free speech and entertainment. I found a whole channel dedicated to live streaming a physics simulation game there for example.

    Good! That's some bulls***t.
    I agree!

    Many people are of the same mindset, except they are afraid of Biden. Frustrating.
    Yep. This is how I look at it. If you live in a swing state, vote strategically. But if you live in a solid red or blue state, as I do, vote your conscience.


    So many people latched on to that bit. She has so many wonderful stances on issues, (abolishing the ATF and income taxes, for example) but people immediately found a thing or two that sounded questionable, and that's all anyone heard about.
    Yep!

    Something Jorgensen is attempting to navigate by trying to redefine some of the leftist nomenclature. Of course, very use of that nomenclature ("anti-racist" for example) horrifies many right-leaning libertarians. I myself was a bit puzzled by that commentary, but I see what she's trying to do. (A few years back, a term like "anti-racism" would seem quite innocuous. I'd have no problem being an "anti-racist" by previous definition, but it signifies something entirely different these days)
    I get it. Ron was in a unique position of having gained the trust of conservative libertarians before reaching out to leftatarians.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So....your argument is conservatives showed up to the rally because someone from Occupy Wallstreet was involved? Ummmm....okay. Retarded argument but okay.
    Nice strawman.
    My argument is that a leftist helped organize an event that was meant as a trap for conservatives, the conservatives were no doubt unaware of his involvement.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    As for those who showed up without knowing about the Nazi's, the leader of the Proud Boys put the word out to his organization not to show or else they would be kicked out.
    Not everyone would have heard about that.
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    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Nice strawman.
    My argument is that a leftist helped organize an event that was meant as a trap for conservatives, the conservatives were no doubt unaware of his involvement.
    Ah. So the rightest who helped organize it couldn't have done it by themselves. Got it.

    Not everyone would have heard about that.
    Not everyone would have heard about the Tiki Torch march? Dude you're stretching. That was covered on international news. Maybe some didn't know about it before they got there. But the next day everybody knew. Lastly, you seem blissfully unaware of the fact that National Ziocialists are still socialists but their not Marxists. Just look at those on the alt-right that were ready to back Andrew Yang's universal basic income plan.
    Last edited by jmdrake; 11-02-2020 at 05:54 AM.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You neg rep me, and call me a loser.

    Yet here you are, champing at the bit to blow town and run away.

    To where, I have no $#@!ing idea, as the world is now a prison planet, but that is what you want to do.

    After bashing one of the most successful freedom campaigns ever, in Rand Paul.

    I wrote those words to point out that, while you are hauling ass, and everybody is busy kissing ass and complying, I will be preparing mind and body to hold the line and die as a martyr and kook.

    I have no illusions about how few will stand with me when that time comes, that, let's be honest, doomatarians have been predicting for decades.

    But I'm convinced it's as close as it has ever been in my lifetime.

    All the Jacobin left needs to start the killing is a new Robespierre.

    Enjoy your beach in Belize.

    It's liberty or death for me as this all unwinds.
    I think this is going to turn out pretty decent as Trump will defeat the Marxist horde, for now anyways.

    When you look at the crowds and excitement Trump has at his rallys, it reminds me of 2007-2008. So much fun!

    Voters don't really get libertarians, but they do understand the dangers of socialism. Republicans are my allies and in much bigger numbers than libertarians.

    Trump is the champion we need at this time to beat back the Bolsheviks. Rand knows this and I just saw him last week at my local Trump rally. Trump is the man.

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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I used to think that the GOP would go back to pretending to care about small government if a Dem were in the WH, as during the Obama years, and so open up some maneuvering room for libertarians: now, not so much. This shift toward populism and nationalism is likely to be permanent, or at least very long lasting.
    I agree. Why would anyone care about small government when it's now a proven fact that all we have to do is print and borrow as much as we need with no downside (except maybe for a little hyperinflation).



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Ah. So the rightest who helped organize it couldn't have done it by themselves. Got it.
    Where did I say that?
    This conversation has been about the motives of the leftist and how he is not and never will be an ally.



    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Not everyone would have heard about the Tiki Torch march? Dude you're stretching. That was covered on international news. Maybe some didn't know about it before they got there. But the next day everybody knew. Lastly, you seem blissfully unaware of the fact that National Ziocialists are still socialists but their not Marxists. Just look at those on the alt-right that were ready to back Andrew Yang's universal basic income plan.
    Please read carefully what I replied to.
    I said nothing about the tiki torches, I said not everyone would have known about the warnings before it happened.
    Nor have I said anything about the NAZIs not being socialists.

    My whole point has been that the leftists that oppose the banksters are not and cannot be our friends, and that includes the NAZIs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I think this is going to turn out pretty decent as Trump will defeat the Marxist horde, for now anyways.

    When you look at the crowds and excitement Trump has at his rallys, it reminds me of 2007-2008. So much fun!

    Voters don't really get libertarians, but they do understand the dangers of socialism. Republicans are my allies and in much bigger numbers than libertarians.

    Trump is the champion we need at this time to beat back the Bolsheviks. Rand knows this and I just saw him last week at my local Trump rally. Trump is the man.

    We can bring them towards our position step by step and Trump is the first step.
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We can bring them towards our position step by step and Trump is the first step.
    I will never follow you. Or trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Good, we don't want you.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    And that's a nice fake news headline you put on that thread, he is not proposing to double the whole budget.
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And that's a nice fake news headline you put on that thread, he is not proposing to double the whole budget.
    Show me anywhere where I said "whole budget". You are twisting things again, SS.
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Show me anywhere where I said "whole budget". You are twisting things again, SS.
    LOL

    You did it by trimming the headline:
    "President Trump’s FY 2021 Budget Commits to Double "

    This is the REAL headline:

    "President Trump’s FY 2021 Budget Commits to Double Investments in Key Industries of the Future"

    We aren't stupid.
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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    You did it by trimming the headline:
    "President Trump’s FY 2021 Budget Commits to Double "

    This is the REAL headline:

    "President Trump’s FY 2021 Budget Commits to Double Investments in Key Industries of the Future"

    We aren't stupid.
    And that is exactly what it says in the body of the thread. Look, no edits.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    And that is exactly what it says in the body of the thread. Look, no edits.
    Which is why I said it was a fake headline.

    You are using classic propaganda techniques, you know many people will only read the headline and that most of the rest will have the lying headline stuck in their subconscious even after they read the thread and find out you faked newsed the headline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We can bring them towards our position step by step and Trump is the first step.
    The GOP has already moved in our direction. What we started in 2007 has a direct connection to what is happening now.

    We argued for ending the pointless wars in the middle east and while we were ridicules in 2008 and 2012, we now have a president that has turned the neocon foreign policy on its head and that drives the DC establishment nuts. The neocons have formed The Lincoln Project and Republican Voters Against Trump, joining with Democrats so everyone can see what they truly are.

    We have a Republican party now that is adamantly against Marxism. The GOP of McCain and Romney wouldn't be waging this battle, but the party of Trump is telling the socialists to $#@! right off!

    The Republican party of 2020 is 100 times more libertarian than the Republican party of 2008. Its a good start and there is no reason not to continue moving the party toward a more libertarian position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Reagan
    If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.
    Citizen of Arizona
    @cleaner4d4

    I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Where did I say that?
    This conversation has been about the motives of the leftist and how he is not and never will be an ally.




    Please read carefully what I replied to.
    I said nothing about the tiki torches, I said not everyone would have known about the warnings before it happened.
    Nor have I said anything about the NAZIs not being socialists.

    My whole point has been that the leftists that oppose the banksters are not and cannot be our friends, and that includes the NAZIs.
    What you basically do is ignore all facts that don't fit your narrative an elevate speculation that does. So...supposedly someone from Occupy Wall Street can't like the confederacy and just want to keep Lee's statue up and Nazi's are really leftists who organize a "Unite The Right" rally to embarrass the right because so many people on the right are so stupid that they not only fall for was was public knowledge (that Nazis were organizing this. They had a fvcking permit after all and had to go to court to get it allowed.) And, of course, all of the people on the left like Glenn Grennwald who actually are being helpful in debunking Russiagate and showing that Joe Biden is corrupt are really just doing it to embarrass you. Got it.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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