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    Is wokeness all arbitrary?

    Seems like they pick and choose what is right, or acceptable, and what is wrong. Been thinking about this. We have people who identify as another gender, but identifying as another race is not okay (cultural appropriation)? Or how about believe all women? Would it be alright to say believe all men for the male rape victims? I guess all live matter would be racist even though it is all inclusive? If I have a sexual "preference" for females that would be offensive because I was born liking women? If a woman transitions into a man would she be part of the patriarchy? If someone uses fascist tactics and call it antifa, that cancels out and its okay? If a Caucasian is born with downs syndrome is he still privileged?



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    If I'm a man and I sit down when I pee, is that gender appropriation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ResponsibleIdiot View Post
    If I'm a man and I sit down when I pee, is that gender appropriation?
    Depends on if you would have lifted the seat to pee if you didn't sit down.

    Nobody likes a wet seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ResponsibleIdiot View Post
    If a Caucasian is born with downs syndrome is he still privileged?
    I don't know, but how else did Brian Stelter get where he is today?

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    If a man identifies as a woman and uses the men's bathroom, is it a crime?

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    Should a business install urinals in the women's bathroom to support trans rights?



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    If a man who identifies as a woman, and a woman who identifies as a man, become a couple......are they heterosexual?

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    Is wokeness all arbitrary?

    Depending on the flavor of Kool Aid..
    actually I consider it a psychosis.
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    If a woman sexually assaults another woman, who should be believed?

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    'Wokeness' is a combination of being unprincipled and anti-white male.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ResponsibleIdiot View Post
    If a woman sexually assaults another woman, who should be believed?
    The hot one?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Is wokeness all arbitrary?
    YES


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    Go to Titania McGrath's twitter feed. She's been compiling the lunacy of the woke for a few years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The hot one?
    Hotness is a social construct. Im offended. We ugly people have been oppressed by you hotties for too long.



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    My scale only goes to 300lbs. Doesn't that qualify as fat shaming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    There's the best answer. (And thanks for all the content in that thread.)

    To understand the logic of wokeness, you need emotional intelligence. Whether something is good or bad, depends upon how you feel. How you feel about yourself. How you feel at the moment. How you feel about the subject or person at hand. How you feel about other completely unrelated subjects or people.

    Don't get hung up on specifics. Don't rely on what has happened in the past as to whether something is good or bad (unless it triggers past emotions). Something that was bad yesterday can be good today and bad again tomorrow.

    It's all about the scenario.

    For example: It's the end of the day on Friday, your boss says "have a good weekend".

    Scenario 1: Your boss is male, you are female.

    Emotional context 1: You love your boss. He's the best. You respond with "and you have one too!" Conclusion: He is a supportive and woke boss.

    Emotional context 2: Your boss is hot, and only 10 years older than you. His wife is a bitch! He knows you don't have anything to do this weekend. You respond with "and you can have one too!", while winking and grinning. Conclusion: Jury is out. He better get the hint.

    Emotional context 3: Your boss is old and creepy. He didn't give you a raise, and he keeps siding with your enemy at work. You believe that he meant something by saying that. Conclusion: Sexual harassment.

    Emotional context 4: You caught your boyfriend cheating with the pool boy. You can't really release all hell on him because you might be perceived as a homophobe. Your boss gave someone else a promotion recently. Your boss is white, you are a mixed WOC. Conclusion: He's a racist and it's evidence of systemic racism.


    The scenarios and roles can go on forever, but I'm tired of typing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ResponsibleIdiot View Post
    If a woman sexually assaults another woman, who should be believed?
    It was my assertion that a singularity would appear and the Universe would implode when two lesbians both accused each other of rape for the same sexual encounter.
    ...Or at very least a Star-Trekkian computer meltdown scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    There's the best answer. (And thanks for all the content in that thread.)

    To understand the logic of wokeness, you need emotional intelligence. Whether something is good or bad, depends upon how you feel. How you feel about yourself. How you feel at the moment. How you feel about the subject or person at hand. How you feel about other completely unrelated subjects or people.

    Don't get hung up on specifics. Don't rely on what has happened in the past as to whether something is good or bad (unless it triggers past emotions). Something that was bad yesterday can be good today and bad again tomorrow.

    It's all about the scenario.

    For example: It's the end of the day on Friday, your boss says "have a good weekend".

    Scenario 1: Your boss is male, you are female.

    Emotional context 1: You love your boss. He's the best. You respond with "and you have one too!" Conclusion: He is a supportive and woke boss.

    Emotional context 2: Your boss is hot, and only 10 years older than you. His wife is a bitch! He knows you don't have anything to do this weekend. You respond with "and you can have one too!", while winking and grinning. Conclusion: Jury is out. He better get the hint.

    Emotional context 3: Your boss is old and creepy. He didn't give you a raise, and he keeps siding with your enemy at work. You believe that he meant something by saying that. Conclusion: Sexual harassment.

    Emotional context 4: You caught your boyfriend cheating with the pool boy. You can't really release all hell on him because you might be perceived as a homophobe. Your boss gave someone else a promotion recently. Your boss is white, you are a mixed WOC. Conclusion: He's a racist and it's evidence of systemic racism.

    The scenarios and roles can go on forever, but I'm tired of typing...
    All of which can be encompassed in a simple, two-word phrase favored by the "woke" - and that phrase is "lived experience."

    "Lived experience" is the distilled essence of "woke" arbitrariness.

    In fact, I'm going to make this the subject of my next post in the Critical Theory thread.

    And here it is: The Poverty of "Lived Experiences"

    A sample:
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    At first glance, it might appear that the term “Lived Experiences” is merely a somewhat belabored way of referring to events that one has personally experienced: i.e, while I was walking down the street, someone bumped into my shoulder without stopping to apologize. Under this innocent conception of the term, “Lived Experiences” are synonymous with “events,” “experiences,” and “occurrences.” A “Lived Experience,” under this view, is merely a report of what happened. This is not what Woke Folk are talking about when they refer to “Lived Experiences.”

    A “Lived Experience” is an event that has been interpreted by Woke Folk as manifesting oppression: i.e, while I was walking down the street, someone bumped into my shoulder without stopping to apologize because they were racist. This is the difference between an experience and a “Lived Experience;” the former is an empirical claim that relays an event that is independently verifiable and is thus subject to scrutiny under public reason. The latter is a phenomenological claim which colors an event with intentionality, or its “aboutness relation;” and crucially, that relation is not subject to independent scrutiny. The empiricist reports on an event that occurred at some point in time and space; the phenomenologist relays the meaning of that event as interpreted by the phenomenologist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    All of which can be encompassed in a simple, two-word phrase favored by the "woke" - and that phrase is "lived experience."

    "Lived experience" is the distilled essence of "woke" arbitrariness.

    In fact, I'm going to make this the subject of my next post in the Critical Theory thread.

    And here it is: The Poverty of "Lived Experiences"

    A sample:
    I brushed my teeth this morning, and they went from coffee stained to white. My toothpaste is racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    All of which can be encompassed in a simple, two-word phrase favored by the "woke" - and that phrase is "lived experience."

    "Lived experience" is the distilled essence of "woke" arbitrariness.
    ...
    AKA "Your truth".
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    All truth agrees but there are too many different lies possible for them all to agree, that means that liars inevitably must choose their lies arbitrarily.
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    If a coal miner gets black soot all over his face, is he a racist?



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    Is Samuel L Jackson guilty of cultural appropriation?


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    By definition it is by whim rather than reason . So , yes.

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    If more than 2 genders, why the B in LGBTQnotsureifmoreletters
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    the b is for billion



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