[Ziminski] Man charged with firing handgun just before alleged Kyle Rittenhouse shootings

[Brian4Liberty]

Man charged with firing handgun just before alleged Kyle Rittenhouse shootings

A man has admitted being first to open fire at the Kenosha protests in the moments before accused teen gunman Kyle Rittenhouse allegedly shot and killed two people and seriously injured another, according to court documents.

Joshua Ziminski, 35, and his wife “both admitted” to detectives that he “fired off a ‘warning shot’ into the air” during the Aug. 25 protests in Wisconsin, according to a criminal complaint obtained by The Post.

Attorneys for Rittenhouse have called the gunshot a “pivotal moment” that left the 17-year-old alleged militia member fearing he had “no way out” as he was chased by protesters with “no way to know who fired that shot.”

On-the-scene reporter Richie McGinniss has also said the sound of the shot was the moment Rittenhouse “went from running away to aiming his weapon” in what the teen’s attorneys insist was self-defense.
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After Ziminski and his wife “both admitted” that he had fired a “‘warning shot’ into the air,” they then claimed they could not produce the gun because it had been stolen from their home, the complaint said.
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More: https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/man-ch...sha-shootings/

[phill4paul]

After Ziminski and his wife “both admitted” that he had fired a “‘warning shot’ into the air,” they then claimed they could not produce the gun because it had been stolen from their home, the complaint said.

Probably ended up in Denver.

[Brian4Liberty]

This was the person that arguably was the instigator and cause of the Rittenhouse attack in Kenosha that led to the shootings and death. Yet he is never mentioned. This was the only reference to his name on this forum until yesterday on the Rittenhouse update thread.

Why has this person been swept under the rug? Kind of interesting that the key player in setting off this unfortunate chain of events is rarely mentioned.

So the guy with the gun was Joshua Ziminski, who appears to be the main instigator of the chase and attack on Rittenhouse. He fired the shot behind Rittenhouse as they were chasing him. He was screaming out to get him and kill him.

[Brian4Liberty]

Man charged with firing handgun just before alleged Kyle Rittenhouse shootings

But there is more to the story:

So the guy with the gun was Joshua Ziminski, who appears to be the main instigator of the chase and attack on Rittenhouse. He fired the shot behind Rittenhouse as they were chasing him. He was screaming out to get him and kill him.

From Rittenhouse testimony yesterday, we learned that Ziminski was the person who first confronted Rittenhouse while displaying his hand gun. He was screaming to kill him. This was when the child molesting criminal Joseph Rosenbaum ran over to try to trap Rittenhouse, and then chased Rittenhouse.

[Brian4Liberty]

Why wasn't Ziminski charged?

We told you in October about the man who shot first, the night that Kyle Rittenhouse killed two men who were attacking him during the Kenosha Riots. Joshua Ziminski shot his handgun first and Kenosha Police identified him. Of course, he is a career violent criminal and was out on bond that night. Kenosha Police referred multiple charges against him including a Felony, to Kenosha DA Michael Graveley. Graveley tossed them all out with the exception of one misdemeanor count of disorderly conduct.
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http://kenoshacountyeye.com/2020/12/...-misdemeanors/

Charges Dropped Against First Kenosha Shooter Who Fired Into Air

On October 13, 2020, the Gateway Pundit broke the story that the person who fired the first shot the night Kyle Rittenhouse was forced to defend his life, Joshua Ziminski, was arrested and charged.
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It appears that the prosecutors prefer to let a violent criminal off rather than lose the chance to persecute Kyle Rittenhouse.
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https://concealednation.org/2020/10/...ired-into-air/

[Brian4Liberty]

Rittenhouse said he did not notice Rosenbaum until he ran out from behind the car. At that point, Joshua Ziminski, who has since been charged with disorderly conduct, stepped toward him with a pistol in his hand, causing Rittenhouse to drop the fire extinguisher he was holding and making him take a step back. Over his shoulder, Rittenhouse said he saw Rosenbaum running from the right side, saying he was "cornered."
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-ri...-timeline/#app

Ironic how the prosecution and media has repeatedly said that it was all Rittenhouse’s fault because he brought a gun. Yet what instigated the entire incident was Ziminski threatening Rittenhouse with a gun. Ziminski had the drop on Rittenhouse. It was an ambush. Ziminski’s gun was in his hand and ready, while Rittenhouse’s gun was hanging from a strap, not in his hands ready to fire.

Yet the media completely ignores the fact that Ziminski had a gun and was threatening Rittenhouse with it.

[phill4paul]

Why wasn't Gage charged for illegally carrying a concealed weapon?

It's pretty simple. Kyle was an....

alleged militia member

alleged militia member

alleged militia member

Ziminski and Gage were mostly peaceful protestors.

[Brian4Liberty]

Why wasn't Gage charged for illegally carrying a concealed weapon?

It's pretty simple. Kyle was an....

alleged militia member

alleged militia member

alleged militia member

Ziminski and Gage were mostly peaceful protestors.

And don't forget, Rittenhouse was a white supremacist, and he loaded his gun with deadly Full Metal Jacket ammo.

Ziminski and Gage were civil rights activists.

[TheTexan]

A don't forget, Rittenhouse was a white supremacist, and he loaded his gun with deadly Full Metal Jacket ammo.

Ziminski and Gage were civil rights activists.

The FMJ thing was 1 of hundreds of BS arguments he was making that deserved to get him permanently disbarred.

It had no relevance, no probative value, purely prejudicial.

Plus, Binger like all attorneys swore on auth to support the Constitution. Which he clearly does not.

[phill4paul]

So two prosecutorial witnesses have charges dropped against them just before trial. Must be nice to be a thug.

[RJB]

And don't forget, Rittenhouse was a white supremacist, and he loaded his gun with deadly Full Metal Jacket ammo.

Ziminski and Gage were civil rights activists.

Ziminski and Gaige had more humane hollow points in their firearms

[luctor-et-emergo]

Ziminski and Gaige had more humane hollow points in their firearms

Would it be fair to characterise the bullet thing as follows:

1. Bullets, of any type, can cause serious bodily harm, potentially leading to death, directly or indirectly.

2. Bullets when shot out of the barrel are propelled by powder and the total energy contained in the bullet is determined by a number of factors which can be calculated and the total energy involved is generally known when purchasing commercial ammunition.

3. At short range the energy lost by aerodynamic factors is very limited, therefore we can reasonably make the assumption that given the same caliber and same powder load the total projectile energy is about the same.

4. A hollow point is designed to expand and dissipate its energy as soon as possible in the target.

5. A FMJ is designed to penetrate and potentially can pass through a target, losing its energy over a greater distance.

Can we then reasonably say that a hollow point has a greater chance of causing serious bodily harm to a target ?

[RJB]

Full Metal Jackets are so scary that they made a movie about it. Heck hollow points and soft points are like love pats with a little gun powder.

Would it be fair to characterise the bullet thing as follows:

1. Bullets, of any type, can cause serious bodily harm, potentially leading to death, directly or indirectly.

2. Bullets when shot out of the barrel are propelled by powder and the total energy contained in the bullet is determined by a number of factors which can be calculated and the total energy involved is generally known when purchasing commercial ammunition.

3. At short range the energy lost by aerodynamic factors is very limited, therefore we can reasonably make the assumption that given the same caliber and same powder load the total projectile energy is about the same.

4. A hollow point is designed to expand and dissipate its energy as soon as possible in the target.

5. A FMJ is designed to penetrate and potentially can pass through a target, losing its energy over a greater distance.

Can we then reasonably say that a hollow point has a greater chance of causing serious bodily harm to a target ?

[luctor-et-emergo]

Full Metal Jackets are so scary that they made a movie about it. Heck hollow points and soft points are like love pats with a little gun powder.

Right, so, since HP's generally release their full potential energy in the first target, they are likely to cause more bodily harm than a FMJ ? However an FMJ is more likely to pass through and strike another target in the path of the bullet. Do we agree there ?

[Suzu]

Why wasn't Ziminski charged?

He's awaiting trial on arson charges. Binger is prosecuting him. This is why he wasn't a witness in the Rittenhouse trial.

[Occam's Banana]

So two prosecutorial witnesses have charges dropped against them just before trial. Must be nice to be a thug.

"thug" ... ? OK, white supremacist.

[RJB]

Right, so, since HP's generally release their full potential energy in the first target, they are likely to cause more bodily harm than a FMJ ? However an FMJ is more likely to pass through and strike another target in the path of the bullet. Do we agree there ?

I'm just goofing around, man.

[phill4paul]

"thug" ... ? OK, white supremacist.

Lol.

[Brian4Liberty]

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Can we then reasonably say that a hollow point has a greater chance of causing serious bodily harm to a target ?

Yes.

Right, so, since HP's generally release their full potential energy in the first target, they are likely to cause more bodily harm than a FMJ ? However an FMJ is more likely to pass through and strike another target in the path of the bullet. Do we agree there ?

Yes.

The FMJ argument by the prosecution was simply a scare tactic. It makes for anti-gun propaganda sound bytes for those ignorant of different types of bullets. It makes it sound like a military round, which it generally is, but for technical and “humanitarian” reasons. It actually makes it a less scary round in reality.

A full metal jacket bullet (or FMJ) is a bullet that is encased in a copper-coated steel or gilding metal jacket, designed to stop the bullet from fragmenting within its target. The jacket prevents deformation of the bullet in the barrel or feed mechanism, from dirt overpressures or damage outside the gun. This reduces misfires. The jacket also prevents fragmentation, and the coating helps prevent damage to the gun barrel.

FMJ ammunition was introduced for ostensibly humanitarian reasons, as the Hague Convention of 1899 prohibits the use of expanding or fragmenting bullets in warfare. (It is commonly but incorrectly stated that this prohibition is in the Geneva Conventions.)
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https://www.longrangehunting.com/thr...nference.5865/