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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The entire argument the victim was having with the people around him was about the spray in his hand. They were daring him to mace them, specially the prime instigator with the "Black Guns Matter" t-shirt. The media producer and their "guard" joined in. No doubt they wanted to escalate to get a story from it. Everyone knew he had mace in his hand already, so he didn't have to pull anything out of his waistband.

    The victim slapped him and then backed away. Can't imagine any jurisdiction where that would justify shooting him at that point. It may revolve around the mace, although it's clear from the picture that the gun shot was simultaneous with the mace spray. Both of them had already initiated that physical action. There was no stopping it in a split second.

    Does spray justify lethal response?
    Eyewitness on Tucker tonight confirmed that the “Black Guns Matter” aggressor guy was working with the murderer and the TV “producer”. They planned all of the confrontations, and tried it multiple times until it “worked”. He also claimed that this supposed media outlet owner organizes for BLM.
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    What sucks about this is I could find common ground with this individual and de-escalate if everyone else just tucked their dick back in. Yes, "Black Guns Matter." If he and I could have a whiskey and cigar together I'd expect we could walk away frim each other with a common bond that gun law's suck for a free man.
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I don't know about the guy wearing the "Black Guns Matter" shirt in the video, but the founder of BGM is a libertarian (and a Libertarian) who thinks Thomas Massie should run for POTUS. His name is Maj Toure. Here's an interview with him from last year:


    And for those who use these things:


    Seems like a guy you could definitely have a whiskey and a cigar with ...
    Quote Originally Posted by jkob View Post
    That fellow traveling "reporter" should be arrested too for this clear and deliberate violent agitation, this guy is as much of a "security guard" as that freak in Kenosha was "medic". Pinkerton agency? Give me a $#@!ing break.

    Far too many communist sympathizers and useful idiots polluting this forum
    Eyewitness on Tucker tonight said that “Black Guns Matter” T-shirt guy was working with the TV “producer” and murderer. It was planned. There would be no rational discussion to be had with BGM t-shirt agitator. It was an intentional set-up. This was pre-meditated murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Eyewitness on Tucker tonight said that “Black Guns Matter” T-shirt guy was working with the TV “producer” and murderer. It was planned. There would be no rational discussion to be had with BGM t-shirt agitator. It was an intentional set-up. This was pre-meditated murder.
    This really is just sad, and where the hell is the outrage over this... oh yeah, it doesn’t fit the narrative. Come on Joe and Harris, denounce this!

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Eyewitness on Tucker tonight said that “Black Guns Matter” T-shirt guy was working with the TV “producer” and murderer. It was planned. There would be no rational discussion to be had with BGM t-shirt agitator.
    Like I said in my earlier post, "I don't know about the guy wearing the 'Black Guns Matter' shirt in the video [...]". But given what I posted about BGM and Maj Toure, if I was in the mood to be especially paranoid, I might speculate as to whether the agitator wearing that particular shirt could have been meant as a way of discrediting BGM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It was an intentional set-up. This was pre-meditated murder.
    Even if the intention was to provoke an incident, I don't think it follows from that that the homicide itself was intended (let alone pre-meditated).

    Which doesn't mean that it wasn't. Who the hell knows? Some of the lunatics on the left have become so unhinged that just about anything seems possible.

    In any case, this particular affair just keeps getting more interesting and bizarre ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 10-12-2020 at 07:43 PM.



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  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Even if the intention was to provoke an incident, I don't think it follows from that that the homicide itself was intended (let alone pre-meditated).

    Which doesn't mean that it wasn't. Who the hell knows? Some of the lunatics on the left have become so unhinged that just about anything seems possible.

    In any case, this particular affair just keeps getting more interesting and bizarre ...
    IIRC, the BGM t-shirt guy was in their faces, daring them to use the mace, because something would happen to them if they did. BGM guy was not packing. He knew the murderer was right there ready to shoot.
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  9. #67
    Friend linked to me that John Tiegen was there. On site. Trying to track down links.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Friend linked to me that John Tiegen was there. On site. Trying to track down links.
    That was Tucker's eyewitness guest...

    https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/st...26875759915009
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    That was Tucker's eyewitness guest...

    https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/st...26875759915009
    Sooo, an C.I.A. operative was there?

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Sooo, an C.I.A. operative was there?
    He is part of the Patriot Muster group that held the rally.
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  13. #71
    Security professionals often serve as guides to protect media crews during potentially dangerous situations or hostile environments.
    The Pinkerton statement..

    But there is NOTHING in this individuals known and public history that would suggest any security training or service.

    Much to suggest an obvious bias. and who was the Legtal owner of the Firearm..
    (in any other such incident,, the Shop that sold the gun would be named by now)
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    BGM shirt was cover to get around the crowd.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    IIRC, the BGM t-shirt guy was in their faces, daring them to use the mace, because something would happen to them if they did. BGM guy was not packing. He knew the murderer was right there ready to shoot.
    Video:


    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status...90249404485633
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  17. #74

    https://www.twitter.com/stillgray/st...92877365751809
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  18. #75
    Youtube version of Tucker interview:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Y7toeb_Dk
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  19. #76

    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1316118573601841154
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  20. #77

    https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/s...09969235025921
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  21. #78
    Apparently the censors are in play....

    Benghazi hero John Tiegen’s Facebook and Instagram accounts disabled by Facebook
    https://americanmilitarynews.com/202...d-by-facebook/

  22. #79
    Dolloff will be formally charged with 2nd Degree Murder on 19 October 2020:

    https://twitter.com/JasonWhitely/sta...50831078162433

  23. #80
    A Gofundme account in Dollof's wife's name is taking donations to pay for his defense.
    Let's see if gofundme let's them keep it up.

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/samantha-...foCQr65QJYMYOq



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  25. #81
    Here's an interview with the scumbag instigator. (15:48 minutes long)
    Making all kinds of $#@! up - trying to cover his ass.
    Not a very good liar, though.

    "I was just walking around in Denver!"
    "He kept threatening me!"
    "That reporter was being attacked because he was fillming an attack on me that was going to happen"

    He says he also has a gofundme set up for himself. He wants 30 grand.
    Oh here we go - "Jeremiah Elliot Safety fund" https://www.gofundme.com/f/jeremiah-elliott-safty-fund

    Since this incident occurred my life is in iminient danger as I am currently getting harassed and stalked online and off. They have contacted previous employment and housing and are trying to find my location. It is imperative that I get your help now when it is needed anything helps. All fund will go to my personal safety.

    Also getting help from the Front Range Community Defense League on Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/frontrangec...nf&__tn__=kC-R
    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...69239494876502
    (UGH!!! Are there really people calling themselves "Libertarian Socialists"?!
    "Libertarian Socialist Caucus of the Libertarian Party" That's horrifying!)

    Jeremiah Elliot looks like one of those white people who've been pretending to be black. Is he?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYY...ature=youtu.be
    Last edited by Valli6; 10-16-2020 at 02:01 PM.

  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Here's an interview with the scumbag instigator. (15:48 minutes long)
    He says he also has a gofundme set up for himself.

    "That reporter was being attacked because he was fillming an attack on me that was going to happen"


    Jeremiah Elliot looks like one of those white people who have only been pretending to be black. Is he?
    Comments turned off............

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Dolloff will be formally charged with 2nd Degree Murder on 19 October 2020:

    https://twitter.com/JasonWhitely/sta...50831078162433
    Correction; (that is seldom made)

    Gunman never was a "Security Guard"..

    Never in his life.
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  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    A Gofundme account in Dollof's wife's name is taking donations to pay for his defense.
    Let's see if gofundme let's them keep it up.

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/samantha-...foCQr65QJYMYOq
    Apparently not. Link currently says:

    Campaign Not Found

    We're sorry, but that campaign cannot be found. Please check the link URL and try again.


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  29. #85

    https://twitter.com/TubbsShow/status...91272175071233
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  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Here's an interview with the scumbag instigator. (15:48 minutes long)
    Making all kinds of $#@! up - trying to cover his ass.
    Not a very good liar, though.

    "I was just walking around in Denver!"
    "He kept threatening me!"
    "That reporter was being attacked because he was fillming an attack on me that was going to happen"

    He says he also has a gofundme set up for himself. He wants 30 grand.
    Oh here we go - "Jeremiah Elliot Safety fund" https://www.gofundme.com/f/jeremiah-elliott-safty-fund

    Since this incident occurred my life is in iminient danger as I am currently getting harassed and stalked online and off. They have contacted previous employment and housing and are trying to find my location. It is imperative that I get your help now when it is needed anything helps. All fund will go to my personal safety.

    Also getting help from the Front Range Community Defense League on Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/frontrangec...nf&__tn__=kC-R
    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...69239494876502
    (UGH!!! Are there really people calling themselves "Libertarian Socialists"?!
    "Libertarian Socialist Caucus of the Libertarian Party" That's horrifying!)

    Jeremiah Elliot looks like one of those white people who've been pretending to be black. Is he?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYY...ature=youtu.be
    LOL. Yeah, that guy is all lies. He acts like no one has seen the video. "I was just walking downtown, minding my own business, being completely peaceful and gentlemanly, and these guys attacked me."

    Is he pretending to be black? Doesn't really matter, but obviously he's not very dark, and on the streets he pretends to be a tough guy, speaking much differently than he did in the video you posted.
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  31. #87
    https://www.fox21news.com/news/state...he-2nd-degree/

    DENVER (KDVR) – Matthew Dolloff, the unlicensed security guard working with a 9NEWS reporting crew at a “Patriot Muster” in downtown Denver last week, will be charged with murder in the 2nd degree.

    If convicted, this charge carries a mandatory prison sentence of between 16 and 48 years.
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  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Youtube version of Tucker interview:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Y7toeb_Dk
    I am shocked, shocked to find that Google/Youtube has banned this video. I can't find another version of it on Youtube.
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  34. #89
    9News would have problems in the wake of Lee Keltner’s killing regardless, but the station’s problems are worse because its most prominent anchor frequently targets for ridicule the same kind of person Matthew Dolloff targeted with his gun.

    Two weeks ago, Kyle Clark’s tweets were cute enough, if you didn’t mind seeing your neighbors bullied by the local newscaster. Now, a growing number of Coloradans are reading Clark’s commentary differently: as inexcusably hostile toward the Lee Keltners of our state, who deserve better than the treatment they receive from 9News’ anchors and security guards alike.

    Certain other journalists have long recognized that Clark damages the brand — both his station’s and their profession’s. The Colorado Springs Gazette in an editorial identified Clark as “a liberal political activist.” Veteran Colorado reporter Joey Bunch said, “Kyle is kind of a quasi-newsman.”

    But while others have critiqued, Clark’s superiors have been content to watch him transform the 6:00 news into half-an-hour of preening sanctimony, and his social media channels into bloody political bludgeons. As Clark abuses his position under their watch, they richly deserve the problems he has created for them now.
    ...
    https://www.denverpost.com/2020/10/2...tner-shooting/
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  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Dolloff will be formally charged with 2nd Degree Murder on 19 October 2020:

    https://twitter.com/JasonWhitely/sta...50831078162433
    Who do ANTIFA types affiliate themselves with in prison to keep from getting buggered?

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