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  1. #61
    I give it to Pence by a couple points. But the headlines have already been written in previous posts.
    Last edited by Dary; 10-07-2020 at 08:42 PM.



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    .@SenKamalaHarris
    was 10 times tougher on @JoeBiden
    in the Democratic debates than she was on Mike Pence tonight. Whoever told her to just grin and never go on the offense tonight should be fired immediately. #VPDebates
    When you have the TYT go agaisnt Harris you know Harris screwed up in the debate.
    Harris was debated on her record for locking up black innocent men in prison which i do think that was fair seeing how they kept attacking Trump for his record on his taxes.

    Harris kept blaming Trump for coivd yet still like Biden offered no policy how to do things differently.
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 10-07-2020 at 08:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPfan1992 View Post
    I really hate her facial expressions. Comes across as a very evil and dishonest person.
    She's too old to try and look cute. That's how I saw it.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    When you have the TYT go agaisnt Harris you know Harris screwed up in the debate.
    Harris was debated on her record for locking up black innocent men in prison which i do think that was fair seeing how they kept attacking Trump for his record on his taxes.

    Harris kept blaming Trump for coivd yet still like Biden offered no policy how to do things differently.
    Good points all.



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    Has bots to like his tweets?
    200k likes. Likes by bots.
    Source

  8. #66
    Kamala babe gives me the creeps. Pence wins by being slightly less creepy.
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Harris doubling down on this now.

    Yes, this is one that concerns me...that's the end of my career if these people come to power.
    Obama killed mine.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I find this tactic of talking in tones that sound like the speaker is going to cry at any minute very very irritating/.
    Both voices kill me. Harris sounds like Mia Rudolph on an SNL skit, and Pence sounds like a TBN televangelist.
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by olehounddog View Post
    She's too old to try and look cute. That's how I saw it.
    But it worked on Willie Brown and Barry Obama...
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  13. #71
    Pence won. It was overwhelming. Harris isn't a good debater. She wasn't last year and isn't now either. The Dems started believing their own bull$#@! about how she's a shark, a killer who would come in and slice Pence up in front of everyone. It was never true. Now let's see what the spin is.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    When you have the TYT go agaisnt Harris you know Harris screwed up in the debate.
    Harris was debated on her record for locking up black innocent men in prison which i do think that was fair seeing how they kept attacking Trump for his record on his taxes.

    Harris kept blaming Trump for coivd yet still like Biden offered no policy how to do things differently.
    They didn't like Biden as a Democratic candidate, either..... it's a great anti-Biden video, spread it.

    FJB



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  16. #73
    NBC:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...rdict-n1242496

    Susan Millsap, communications professor at Ohio’s Otterbein University and adviser to the student debate team

    Overall: "I didn't like it much," Millsap said, because both candidates kept pivoting from the questions asked by moderator Susan Page of USA Today. "Nobody gets an 'A' today," she added, while "the moderator I would give an 'F' to. She couldn't get control of the debate."

    Pence: "Kept interrupting or speaking longer than he was supposed to. It just drove me crazy," she said. As for his arguments, "all he does is deflect. I think at one point he was up eight straw men arguments and red herrings."

    Millsap noted that the vice president pivoted whenever Harris mentioned that the administration was trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act in court.

    She also said that Pence, like President Donald Trump last week, didn't say much about plans for a second term — just that Joe Biden's policies would be terrible. "I don't think that's going to change any minds," she said.

    Harris: "She came across as well-prepared," Millsap said. While she was "more direct" than Pence in her answers, "there are a couple of times I got frustrated with her because she didn't answer the questions that she was asked," citing Harris's dodges on questions about the Green New Deal and packing the Supreme Court.

    But Millsap said Harris had some standout moments, such as when she was speaking about the deaths of Breonna Taylor and Kayla Mueller, whose family was in the audience. "It felt very honest and came across as sincere," she said.

    Millsap's report card:

    Pence's grade: D

    Harris' grade: B
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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It was expected that the media or liberal students would give Harris A or B. Debates are pointless when they always favor the other side.


    She also said that Pence, like President Donald Trump last week, didn't say much about plans for a second term — just that Joe Biden's policies would be terrible. "I don't think that's going to change any minds," she said.
    Again what polices has Harris shown at the clown show? how different would Harris or Biden be?

    just that Joe Biden's policies would be terrible. "I don't think that's going to change any minds," she said
    Shes right I think people's minds had being made up already and the riots weren't helping Biden either. I am not sure why Harris gets a B but she completely failed at the debate.
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 10-08-2020 at 12:18 AM.

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Harris didn't do well. She didn't even get censored by the Chinese communist party like Pence did.
    That's more enough to show who wants Biden to win. They didn't like Pence's comments on what the Chinese were doing. If America votes for Biden you get more of the same. Everything what has happened will be forgiven and forgotten.

  19. #76
    So, seems like the spin is the fly that landed on Pence's head. This is weak, weak tea from the bluechecks.
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  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Dary View Post
    I give it to Pence by a couple points. But the headlines have already been written in previous posts.
    thx for your comments...

  21. #78
    Neither of them really answered the questions. The usual political theater, where both support the CFR's mission of warmongering, banksterism, Israel and the Vatican. Everything else is window-dressing and obfuscation.



    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Has bots to like his tweets?
    200k likes. Likes by bots.
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    Random nobody twitter user posting pure conjecture is totes newsworthy and worth posting
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  22. #79
    I give Pence an A & Harris a D

    Not answering the stacked Supreme Court question is unconscionable for someone on Senate Judiciary Committee. She also looked childish with eye rolls & facial appearances

    I didn’t know much about her before this & after watching her talk & up close for 1.5 hours.. just don’t trust her or like her.

    She finished last in Democratic primary & it showed.

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1314028592968413186
    I think Harris was insulted by Pence's portrayal of her work and said something to the effect that what she did in California will be the model for the country.



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Dary View Post
    Pence has pretty good closing statement concerning working together and uniting. Shows empathy. Harris seems pandering. Returns to Charlottesville hate. Paints Joe as empathic.
    The left that votes from emotions see pandering as sincerity.

  26. #82
    Pence has the patience of a saint.

  27. #83
    The funny thing is the person that aligns with your ideology or indoctrination is usually the clear winner.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Pence has the patience of a saint.
    Yes he does, Trump obviously has no patience & its a major character flaw.

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Yes he does, Trump obviously has no patience & its a major character flaw.
    Is it possible that the problem is not Trump's lack of patience but rather the ineptitude of those he deals with?

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Is it possible that the problem is not Trump's lack of patience but rather the ineptitude of those he deals with?
    reality is Trump lacks adequate level of patience & composure. He's still firing off 70+ "tweets" a day...

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    reality is Trump lacks adequate level of patience & composure. He's still firing off 70+ "tweets" a day...
    I prefer that over not hearing from the POTUS for many months at a time. Both Bush's, Reagan, Clinton, Obama, the only time you heard from them was rarely,

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    I prefer that over not hearing from the POTUS for many months at a time. Both Bush's, Reagan, Clinton, Obama, the only time you heard from them was rarely,
    Tweeting 70+ times a day is on the attention level of a teenager who drinks 5 iced coffees a day. It’s maniacal

    Believe me I wish he had more restraint & could be a great President/leader

    I still might vote for him over criminal D party lol



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  34. #89
    Pence acted calm and collected throughout the entire debate. Harris on the other hand clearly got triggered several times.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Pence acted calm and collected throughout the entire debate. Harris on the other hand clearly got triggered several times.
    I think that depends on your perspective. I had someone tell me that Harris is very well spoken and articulate.

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