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    Thumbs up Tulsi Gabbard is back, positioning herself as last sane Democrat

    Tulsi Gabbard is back, positioning herself as last sane Democrat

    Tulsi Gabbard is back, looking splendid as ever.

    And she's got a cause any sane voter interested in free and fair elections can support, sponsoring a bipartisan bill targeting the odious practice of ballot-harvesting. The Hawaii representative's bill, co-sponsored with Rep. Rodney Davis of Illinois, calls for a withholding of federal funds for states that refuse to ban the practice, where sleazy political operatives target vulnerable voters in their homes and "helpfully" collect their ballots for them, doing what they need to do with make sure the vote goes in the direction of their party


    It's a striking move, because Democrats are all in favor of the practice, given that wherever it is practiced legally, it has benefited them.

    In 2018, ballot-harvesting mysteriously flipped historically red Orange County, California entirely blue, days after the election, as ballot-harvesters kept "finding" ballots and turning them in, until they got the result they wanted.

    There also was an outrageous case in North Carolina, where a sleazy Republican operative illegally harvested ballots from black Democratic voters and threw them in the trash to ensure that those ballots would not be counted. The latter case forced a judge to call a new election in North Carolina. Anything can happen when the chain of custody of votes is broken with ballot-harvesting, and it has.


    Ballot-harvesting is banned already in most states because it's a repulsively corrupt practice last done on a wholesale level in Mexico during the days of its PRI permanent party, which held power for 70 years. Mario Vargas Llosa described that country and its entrenched one-party state where no one could change his government as "the perfect dictatorship."


    Now Tulsi has brought forth a cause any sane American who cares about democracy and fairness should care about.


    The background here is interesting. Tulsi, who is a Democrat with a independent streak and a soft spot or Bernie Sanders, is hated in the Democratic Party for not going along with their program and their machine candidates. She personally destroyed Kamala Harris in one of the last Democratic debates, exposing her shady record as a prosecutor and single-handedly tanking her polling numbers to single digits. Prior to that, Kamala was nearly in the lead.


    For that, the Democrats punished her at least twice, first denying her a spot on the next Democratic debate platform despite the fact that she had qualified and then denying her a speaking slot at the Democratic National Convention despite the fact that she drew delegates, unlike most of the other Democratic candidates, including Harris, who were given big speaking slots.


    Tulsi knows all about Democratic election manipulation, it seems, and has come out with a fairness measure to correct some of it — which will make her more unpopular than ever among Democrats.


    Yet she has nothing to lose. She's leaving office.

    What do we see here? She can't benefit from the Democrats now, and she probably won't be able to join the Republicans, so the only conclusion we can see in this bid for fairness that she is positioning herself as the last sane branch of the Democrats.

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    Anything can happen when the chain of custody of votes is broken with ballot-harvesting, and it has.
    Hell freezes over. Someone mentioned the importance of chain of custody.
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    666-zio-commie tulsi, Netinyahoo puppet will bring orange illumination.

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    Orange Mickey Mouse kiss up.


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    Gabbard would be much more sane if she completely cut socialism out of her world view.
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    Hawaiian orange surfer bad.


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    Recently complained about 'Cuties' being an advertisement for pedophilia, sexualization of children, and increasing human trafficking.

    Previously endorses Biden for president despite countless amounts of videos showing him openly molesting children and corroborated stories of him raping women.

    Rock solid in her consistency and integrity she is not.

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    LOVE her...she can go DOWN with that ship!
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    She is anti-gun and pro-socialist. Who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    She is anti-gun and pro-socialist. Who cares?
    Leftists on this site are trying to promote the least of the leftists by pointing out one or two things that they get right.

    What's new?

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    She is the 2020 version of the 2008 version Dennis Kucinich, she is right more than she is wrong, I actually think she can't survive in the democrat party and that is why she isn't going for re-election. She opposes many of the things RPF members oppose. The fact that she broke with her party against Hillary in 2016 speaks volumes about her.
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    Ronzeplin keeps saying I'm a troll but then all he does is talk about Tulsi lol major TDS or troll

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    Most libertarians are nothing more than anti war pro pot and LGBT. If only Rothbard was still alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon4liberty View Post
    Ronzeplin keeps saying I'm a troll but then all he does is talk about Tulsi lol major TDS or troll
    give the man a break, he has dementia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon4liberty View Post
    Ronzeplin keeps saying I'm a troll but then all he does is talk about Tulsi lol major TDS or troll
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    give the man a break, he has dementia.
    This is true. My very reliable sources say that it is Joe Biden behind that sock puppet.
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    I think she's banking on a Democratic realignment to the center after this woke stuff passes. I don't think that's likely. The mechanisms in place push them to the left, not the center. She's going to find herself as a woman without a country, as it were.
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    Tulsi does seem to be more right than wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Tulsi does seem to be more right than wrong.
    Socialized medicine
    Socialized welfare
    Pro central banks
    Pro centralized planning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    She is anti-gun and pro-socialist. Who cares?
    It's an important bill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    666-zio-commie tulsi, Netinyahoo puppet will bring orange illumination.

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    What poison pills has she buried in it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What poison pills has she buried in it?
    Your skepticism is very healthy when it comes to Tulsi, try applying that skepticism to every crook nosed politician. And ignore anyone who tried to tell you that you are experiencing a Tulsi derangement Syndrome.

    I completely back a ban on ballot harvesting not because it will hurt Trump but because it will bring about cheating that would making it impossible for American people to ever throw out the rascals and elect good constitutional folks. And if there is no poison pill in it, I'll support the bill

    Text: H.R.8285 — 116th Congress (2019-2020)All Information (Except Text)

    As of 09/22/2020 text has not been received for H.R.8285 - To amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to prohibit payments under such Act to States which permit ballot harvesting, and for other purposes.

    Bills are generally sent to the Library of Congress from GPO, the Government Publishing Office, a day or two after they are introduced on the floor of the House or Senate. Delays can occur when there are a large number of bills to prepare or when a very large bill has to be printed.
    So far, the text of the bill haven't been posted on the official house website. But the text below is on her website which I support wholeheartedly
    Background: H.R.8285, the Election Fraud Prevention Act would amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to prohibit payments to States which permit ballot harvesting.

    Currently, depending on the State or locality, voters have the option of mailing their ballot, leaving their ballot in a drop box, having their ballots collected and submitted by a third party, or returning them at the polls or a local election office.

    The Election Fraud Prevention Act ensures that voters seeking to turn in their mail-in ballots may only be assisted by an election official or mail carrier acting in their official capacities as well as family members, household members, or caregivers.
    Last edited by John-G; 09-22-2020 at 05:01 AM.

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    We're so stupid.

    The fact we need to introduce a law to prevent voter fraud says a lot.


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    Banning ballot harvesting is not a partisan issue. It's been used & abused in states like North Carolina and California & is ripe for fraud.

    That's why I intro'd HR8285, the Election Fraud Prevention Act w/ @RodneyDavis - to protect the integrity of our elections & our democracy

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    We're so stupid.

    The fact we need to introduce a law to prevent voter fraud says a lot.


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    Banning ballot harvesting is not a partisan issue. It's been used & abused in states like North Carolina and California & is ripe for fraud.

    That's why I intro'd HR8285, the Election Fraud Prevention Act w/ @RodneyDavis - to protect the integrity of our elections & our democracy
    How about the fact that reps have to fight this instead of the DoJ under a republican admin. This will hurt republicans more than it would hurt dems and yet a dem is the one cosponsoring the bill and the White house is virtually doing nothing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Leftists on this site are trying to promote the least of the leftists by pointing out one or two things that they get right.

    What's new?
    Which is hilarious since republican trumpkins do exactly the same thing. Literally the exact same thing.

    On topic: Her bill is good though, except that I foresee that the push to eliminate any paper voting mechanisms, such as early voting mechanisms, absentee ballots, etc is merely to usher in the federally controlled blockchain electronic voting system that the USPS has already developed and patented. As always, create a problem then offer the solution...
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Which is hilarious since republican trumpkins do exactly the same thing. Literally the exact same thing.
    Exactly.

    Everyone should honor Trump for a "step in the right direction". Anyone else that does it is evil........!
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Which is hilarious since republican trumpkins do exactly the same thing. Literally the exact same thing.

    On topic: Her bill is good though, except that I foresee that the push to eliminate any paper voting mechanisms, such as early voting mechanisms, absentee ballots, etc is merely to usher in the federally controlled blockchain electronic voting system that the USPS has already developed and patented. As always, create a problem then offer the solution...
    No kidding.
    I admit, I like her cause of her war stance and her ability to bullrush her way through some of the most hypocritical things her Democratic colleagues do, but I don't think I could actually vote for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    No kidding.
    I admit, I like her cause of her war stance and her ability to bullrush her way through some of the most hypocritical things her Democratic colleagues do, but I don't think I could actually vote for her.
    Pretty much my POV- but at least I can stand to look at her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon4liberty View Post
    Most libertarians are nothing more than anti war pro pot and LGBT. If only Rothbard was still alive
    She gets an F on domestic issues. But a B+ on Foreign Policy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post

    Hawaiian orange surfer bad.


    Her attacks on sitting POTUS were too blunt.

    Tulsi slams Trump as Saudi 'b----' , 'We are not your prostitutes. You are not our pimp'

    @realDonaldTrump Despicable. Offering to place our military assets under the command of a foreign country—Saudi Arabia—is a disgrace and betrayal of my patriotic brothers and sisters in uniform and to our Constitution. We are not your prostitutes. You are not our pimp. pic.twitter.com/Cu1OewEMOC

    — Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) September 16, 2019

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