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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Great news! The hag is gone.
    Saturday night Live has already done this bit with Generalissimo Francisco Franco. Back when SNL was funny.



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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Who the hell talks like that on their deathbed?

    The last words my granny said to me was that she loved me and would miss me.
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  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    A lifelong manipulator with a political agenda.
    I suspect the real last words were something like, "I'm melting!"

  5. #94
    I believe in diversity. Therefore I want a black, Protestant, constitutional originalist who can not be blackmailed. How far does that narrow the list?
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  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    If donations are any indication of enthusiasm, then democratic enthusiasm is rising. Everyone's probably already seen this (it was posted on Drudge)
    Democratic donations skyrocket after death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg
    Laundered money.
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  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I agree.

    I'm not going to "dance on her grave" but I'm not going to heap praise on her either.

    She was an "identity" politician disguised as a judge, who routinely ruled against the constitution and restrictions on government.
    I'll dance for both of us:

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  9. #97
    bring on the nominations, hearings and sex accusations. If the dems are who we all know they are, they will screw this up. The last time they did this brought Trump high approvals.

    GOP should not just choose a woman for fear of sex accusations, choose a man and let the left hang themselves with their own rope.
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  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Thanks for that. It's spot on. This isn't about being principled, or even consistent. It's about the exercise of political power. Political power is easier to identify when the other side is not being principled or consistent - such as when the Democrats passed the Affordable Care Act by a simple majority rather than constraining themselves to the cloture rules necessary to pass the Senate.

    But, if what you say is true, then I guess the obvious follow-on question is, "When is the time to play fair and/or be magnanimous?" ... we are Americans after all; and back in the 1950's when I was growing up, that's one of the things we prided ourselves on. Pragmatically, of course, we never were magnanimous nor fair - but we at least pretended to be.
    The time to play fair and be magnanimous is when the other side plays by the same rules, the left hasn't done that in generations.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I believe in diversity. Therefore I want a black, Protestant, constitutional originalist who can not be blackmailed. How far does that narrow the list?
    I am not a Protestant, nor do I get overly obsessed with diversity, but that is curious that the vast majority of the founders were Protestant and yet there hasn't been one on the bench in years.

    As for originalists, that lack has been needing to be fixed for far longer.
    ...

  12. #100
    Also, for diversity reasons, I notice that the SCOTUS women are fairly ugly. Amy and Britt are kind of pretty. So, for diversity reasons, I am for a hot chick on the SC.
    ...

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Also, for diversity reasons, I notice that the SCOTUS women are fairly ugly. Amy and Britt are kind of pretty. So, for diversity reasons, I am for a hot chick on the SC.

  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    RIP. Gloating over a death (especially since she's a fairly prosaic liberal) is ghoulish and soul-rotting.
    Yeah, people in their next breath will then complain about how uncivil leftists are and call them deranged.

    Much lack of awareness coming from some of these people, especially the ones that call themselves "pro-life".

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    I am not a Protestant, nor do I get overly obsessed with diversity, but that is curious that the vast majority of the founders were Protestant and yet there hasn't been one on the bench in years.
    Strange, isn't it? Almost like there was a backroom alliance made at some point...but that would be a crazy conspiracy hypothesis. I'd have to defer to @Firestarter or @devil21 for any insights.
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  16. #104
    (Ignoring that this reeks of yet more scripted "MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION EVAR!!!11!!" nonsense to cause controversy and interest in an otherwise ridiculous election between a senile crook and a pathological liar crook.....)


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Strange, isn't it? Almost like there was a backroom alliance made at some point...but that would be a crazy conspiracy hypothesis. I'd have to defer to @Firestarter or @devil21 for any insights.
    Easy peasy. Vatican has effectively taken over Protestant churches and quashed the Reformation. The Vatican is the head of most organized religious movements on the planet now, along with the associated secret societies (Knights of Malta, Knights Templar, etc). Hence why now only Jews and Jesuits are appointed to SCOTUS, almost to the point of it being ridiculously easy to predict that a GOP president will appoint an Ivy League Jesuit/Catholic trained (or married to one) and a Dem president will appoint an Ivy League Jew (or married to one). Both are employees of the Rothschilds and the Vatican. Protestants need not apply. Pretty much any high profile figure that claims to be a Protestant is just LARPing as one for votes/support.
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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I suspect the real last words were something like, "I'm melting!"
    Or maybe her last words were, "Oh $#@!, Trump's going to replace me."
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  19. #106
    Justice Ginsburg Preferred South Africa’s Constitution To The US Constitution

    http://barelyablog.com/justice-ginsb...-constitution/

    By Ilana Mercer, February 17, 2012

    I would not look to the US constitution,” said US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in an interview with Al-Hayat TV. “If I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012, I might look at the constitution of South Africa, Canada … and the European Convention on Human Rights.”

    Al-Hayat’s correspondent had solicited Ginsburg’s advice on drafting the Egyptian constitution.

    Go easy on Ginsburg. She shares a disdain for America’s founding document with millions, maybe even a majority, of her countrymen. The US Constitution is flouted daily by the people’s representatives, and has been amended and reinterpreted to the point of no return.

    The governing documents that excite Bader Ginsburg’s admiration are documents of positive rights. The American Constitution is by-and-large a charter of negative liberties, as President Obama once described it derisively.

    A positive right is state-manufactured, usually at the behest of political majorities. Rights to a job, water, clothes, food, education and medical care are examples. Some of the European covenants canvassed by Bader consider “freely chosen” desirable work as a human right. Ditto adequate “rest and leisure.” Once these needs are recognized as rights, they become state-enforceable, legal claims against other, less-valued members of society (“the rich”). Someone who hasn’t had a vacation, or has not reached his career apogee, gets to collect on such claims.

    In the case of natural rights—the only founding truths the nation’s fathers could have conceived of, given their classical liberal philosophical framework—the duty is merely a mitts-off duty. My right to life means you must not murder me. My right to liberty means you dare not enslave me. My right to property means you can’t take what’s mine—not 35 percent of it, or 15 percent. Nada. And you have no right to stop me from taking the necessary acquisitive action for my survival, so long as I, in turn, respect the same restrictions.

    As an instantiation of a constitutional democracy governed in accordance with state-minted rights, take the new South Africa, where almost everyone knows someone who has been raped, robbed, hijacked, murdered, or all of the above, in violation of natural law.

    Not that you’d know it, but the poor South Africans enjoy a constitutional right to live free of all forms of violence, “public” or “private” in origin. Section 12 of their progressive constitution guarantees the “Freedom and Security of the Person.” Clearly “progressive” doesn’t necessarily spell progress, as nowhere does this wordy but worthless document state whether South Africans may actually defend this most precious of rights. If anything, self-defense can be an offense in progressive South Africa. The law dictates that in the course of adjudicating cases of “private defense,” the right to life (the aggressor’s) and the right to property (the non-aggressor’s—whose life, by this “logic,” is not at stake) be properly balanced.

    “Before you can act in self-defense,” remonstrates a representative of the indispensable South African Institute for Security Studies, “the attack against you should have commenced, or at least be imminent. For example, if the thief pulls out a firearm and aims in your direction, [only] then you would be justified in using lethal force to protect your life.”

    Implicit in the right to life is the right to self-defense. A right that can’t be defended is a right in name only. Alas, in constitutional South Africa, natural rights are merely nominal.

    The same document allows a good deal of mischief for the ostensible greater good. It even has a clause devoted to “Limitation of Rights.” Since some citizens are more equal than others under the law of this tormented land, redistributive “justice” in South Africa is a constitutional article of faith. It sanctions the expropriation of land from one citizen in order to give to another, in the name of “social justice.”

    Knowing what you now know about the South African Constitution—what is it do you suppose Bader-Ginsburg dislikes about one of the greatest documents of political philosophy?

    From all accounts, it is that the US Constitution is principally a charter of negative liberties. Arrived at through reason (or revelation), natural (or negative) liberties are the only authentic rights to which man can lay claim. LIFE, LIBERTY, AND PROPERTY: These are the sole rights of man. Congress doesn’t grant them; they exist irrespective of it.

    One’s life, liberty and the products of one’s labor were not meant to be up for grabs by greedy majorities. Rights always give rise to binding obligations. There are no free contraceptives, Mr. Obama. If a woman has the right to contraceptives, someone has to work to supply her with this “right.” If one is constitutionally entitled to an education, somewhere, some poor sod will be roped into funding this manufactured entitlement.

    More fundamentally, if in exercising a “right” one transgresses against another’s life, liberty and property—then the exercised right is no right, but a violation thereof. Because my right to acquire property doesn’t diminish your right to do the same, the right of private property constitutes a negative right. Negative rights are real (or natural) liberties, as they don’t conscript or enslave me in the fulfillment of your needs and desires, and vice versa.

    Unless undertaken voluntarily, state-manufactured rights violate the individual’s real rights. Positive liberties—as trumpeted by Bader, Obama, and practically the whole DC Sodom and Gomorrah—are rejected outright in the natural law, followed by the Founders.

    Now, the occupants of the Bench who compiled the South African, Canadian and European documents would argue that making some—”the rich” in the West, whites in a black-dominated democracy—supply others with work, water, clothes, contraceptives, food, education and medical care will increase overall liberty in society.

    THAT WON’T WASH. Liberty is not an aggregate social project. Every individual has rights. And rights give rise to obligations between all decent men, including those in power. That men band in a collective called “government” doesn’t give them license to violate individual rights.

    Rights, as our Founding Fathers conceived of them, are not claims to economic goods, but freedoms to act in the procurement of these goods. From the fact that most Americans, Egyptians or Russians want others to fund or subsidize their lives, it does not follow that they have such a right.

    The Constitution Ginsburg, Obama and the DC Sodom and Gomorrah trash each and every day was designed to minimize political overreach, not mandate heaven on earth.
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  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    Yeah, people in their next breath will then complain about how uncivil leftists are and call them deranged.

    Much lack of awareness coming from some of these people, especially the ones that call themselves "pro-life".
    That's a nice logical fallacy you have there.

    I gloat over her death BECAUSE I am pro life, she was the cause of uncounted deaths of innocent babies and her death clears the way to end the slaughter.

    I do not believe in self defeating pacifism, I stand with Sgt. Alvin York, he was a pacifist until he realized that in order to stop the killing he had to kill.
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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    Yeah, people in their next breath will then complain about how uncivil leftists are and call them deranged.

    Much lack of awareness coming from some of these people, especially the ones that call themselves "pro-life".
    Trump has been speaking highly of her."She was an inspiration to all Americans."

  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    "New president". So if Trump wins, she wants to wait 4 years to be replaced. Sorry, her wishes other than for her estate, family or funeral no longer matter.

    Now she could have retired when Obama was President, but she didn't. So just to throw out a wild hypothesis, perhaps she was Roberts "handler", so she couldn't retire...
    Is it possible she didn't retire because the Clintons threatened to kill her if she did?
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  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Strange, isn't it? Almost like there was a backroom alliance made at some point...but that would be a crazy conspiracy hypothesis.
    I’m afraid I am not too good at understanding the difference between Catholic and Protestant “Christians”.
    I’m not too fond of lying, cheating lawyers though...

    It looks like Ginsburg in 1993 proposed to lower the age of consent to 12.


    Ginsburg denied that this was an accurate representation of what she wrote.
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  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Is it possible she didn't retire because the Clintons threatened to kill her if she did?
    Anything is possible. The most likely reason was simply her ego and desire to continue implementing her agenda and manipulating the court.
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  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    I’m afraid I am not too good at understanding the difference between Catholic and Protestant “Christians”.
    ...
    Well, that's a very extensive and deep subject, with many aspects. Too much to get into in this thread. Suffice it to say there is a long history of differences and grievances.
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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Trump has been speaking highly of her."She was an inspiration to all Americans."
    Trump has to because of politics, the rest of us do not have to and should not.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  28. #114

    This is turning bad
    NeoReactionary. American High Tory.

    The counter-revolution will not be televised.

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by jaybone View Post
    Sick of the Amy Barrett love.

  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    Saturday night Live has already done this bit with Generalissimo Francisco Franco. Back when SNL was funny.
    Back in the day, they were anti-establishment. Now they're part of the lefty propaganda machine.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  31. #117
    Wasn't Ginsburg also on Epstein flight logs?
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  33. #119
    Trump has already been pressured to wait until after Ginsberg's funeral to make a nomination. And leftists are talking about delaying the funeral...


    https://twitter.com/fox5sandiego/sta...29620890013698
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  34. #120
    He should announce it before the first debate. Maybe Joe Biden can get a teleprompter or get an ear piece for the debate that way Trump can debate Biden's handler or whoever it is pulling the strings.



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