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  1. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Would the founding fathers support gay marriage?
    They literally wouldn't even understand the proposition. The concept would be totally alien to anyone living before 1900, at the earliest.
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  3. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    They literally wouldn't even understand the proposition. The concept would be totally alien to anyone living before 1900, at the earliest.
    Are you saying homosexuality is a new phenomenon?



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  5. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They most certainly would not.
    Some probably would have, others not. Franklin was well known to be rather "sexually adventurous" while also being an advocate of personal liberty and not religious, for example.
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  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    They literally wouldn't even understand the proposition. The concept would be totally alien to anyone living before 1900, at the earliest.
    The term "Boston Marriage" meaning two bitter, elderly, man hating, lesbians living together was coined around 1880.
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  7. #155
    Best news Iíve had in years.

    The mooing over this from the left is amusing in a very schadenfreude way... their Schade, my Freude .

  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Are you saying homosexuality is a new phenomenon?
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Some probably would have, others not. Franklin was well known to be rather "sexually adventurous" while also being an advocate of personal liberty and not religious, for example.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The term "Boston Marriage" meaning two bitter, elderly, man hating, lesbians living together was coined around 1880.
    Sexual perversion and granting it the status of marriage are two different things.
    "Boston Marriage" was meant to mock the perverts and the city of Boston for having so many not to grant the status of marriage.

    The founders would not have favored qweer marriage, even those who were less moral would have known that it would destroy society and that the public would not accept it. (even in modern times it was imposed from above rather than accepted by the public after so many generations of brainwashing)
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  9. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Are you saying homosexuality is a new phenomenon?
    Certainly not. But gay marriage, even as a concept, is. There have been societies like ancient Greece where homosexuality (and even pederasty) was normalized. But the idea of gay marriage would be totally alien to them. That's purely a concoction of the modern age.
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  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Are you saying homosexuality is a new phenomenon?
    State marriage licenses are.
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  11. #159
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    Last edited by Voluntarist; 10-13-2020 at 09:23 PM.
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  12. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Did they support it at the time? No, probably not - at least not publicly. But at the time, state-licensed marriage was a foreign concept. George and Martha Washington never had a marriage license. Marriage was something that religion was in charge of - so, form a gay church and form gay marriages through those churches. You might just as well ask, "Would the founding fathers support the government licensing of any marriage (heterosexual, homosexual, polygamous, etc.?"

    Other questions, in the same vein, that you might pose:
    - Would the founding fathers support the abolition of slavery?
    - Would the founding fathers support African Americans having the right to vote?
    - Would the founding fathers support women having the right to vote?
    - Would the founding fathers support inter-racial marriage?
    ... if your founding father ancestor set aside property for you to live upon, does that obligate you to live on it?

    And it's not like homosexuality didn't exist at the time:
    - William King, first senator from Alabama, is rumored to have been gay.
    - Benjamin Franklin recruited strategist Baron Friedrich von Steuben to provide his expertise to the rebellion, despite knowing the soldier’s homosexuality (Franklin's letters indicate that part of his motivation was the knowledge Von Steuben could face prosecution for sodomy in Europe).
    - Gilbert du Motier, the Marquis de Lafayette, had a very close relationship with George Washington - despite being a known homosexual.
    - and on and on and on.

    The real question is, "Why is marriage any business of the government?". Why are they over 1,400 federal laws/statues/regulations that have the word "marriage' in them?
    All very good points!



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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Did they support it at the time? No, probably not - at least not publicly. But at the time, state-licensed marriage was a foreign concept. George and Martha Washington never had a marriage license. Marriage was something that religion was in charge of - so, form a gay church and form gay marriages through those churches. You might just as well ask, "Would the founding fathers support the government licensing of any marriage (heterosexual, homosexual, polygamous, etc.?"

    Other questions, in the same vein, that you might pose:
    - Would the founding fathers support the abolition of slavery?
    - Would the founding fathers support African Americans having the right to vote?
    - Would the founding fathers support women having the right to vote?
    - Would the founding fathers support inter-racial marriage?
    ... if your founding father ancestor set aside property for you to live upon, does that obligate you to live on it?

    And it's not like homosexuality didn't exist at the time:
    - William King, first senator from Alabama, is rumored to have been gay.
    - Benjamin Franklin recruited strategist Baron Friedrich von Steuben to provide his expertise to the rebellion, despite knowing the soldier’s homosexuality (Franklin's letters indicate that part of his motivation was the knowledge Von Steuben could face prosecution for sodomy in Europe).
    - Gilbert du Motier, the Marquis de Lafayette, had a very close relationship with George Washington - despite being a known homosexual.
    - and on and on and on.

    The real question is, "Why is marriage any business of the government?". Why are they over 1,400 federal laws/statues/regulations that have the word "marriage' in them?
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    All very good points!
    Not really very good.

    There are many legitimate reasons for the law to deal with who is married and who is not and you don't need licenses to do it, just definitions, those who want to officially record the marriage can do so without requiring everyone to do so.

    And the founders would not accept a qweer church having qweer marriages in the law, marriage is between a man and a woman by definition and always has been.
    Trying to compare qweer marriage to things the founders were wrong about is ridiculous as is the implication that we can change the definition of such things.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 09-24-2020 at 06:03 PM.
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  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Not really very good.

    There are many legitimate reasons for the law to deal with who is married and who is not and you don't need licenses to do it, just definitions, those want to officially record the marriage can do so without requiring everyone to do so.

    And the founders would not accept a qweer church having qweer marriages in the law, marriage is between a man and a woman by definition and always has been.
    Trying to compare qweer marriage to things the founders were wrong about is ridiculous as is the implication that we can change the definition of such things.
    Do you think God has changed his views on homosexuality? What do you think is his present stance on it?

  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Do you think God has changed his views on homosexuality? What do you think is his present stance on it?
    That depends entirely on which God you're talking about.
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  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Do you think God has changed his views on homosexuality? What do you think is his present stance on it?
    GOD does not change his views on abominations, he is the same yesterday, today and forever.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  18. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    GOD does not change his views on abominations, he is the same yesterday, today and forever.
    Would God get nominated for SCOTUS?

  19. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Would God get nominated for SCOTUS?
    He does not stoop to such worldly offices, he has all power in heaven and on earth.
    Whether or not someone would nominate him if that was a reasonable concept would depend on the person doing the nominating, the wise and well informed would seek to be ruled by him, the foolish would not.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  20. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He does not stoop to such worldly offices, he has all power in heaven and on earth.
    Whether or not someone would nominate him if that was a reasonable concept would depend on the person doing the nominating, the wise and well informed would seek to be ruled by him, the foolish would not.

    I guess I was being more hypothetical. A person that had the morals of God. Could they be nominated? Would Democrats embrace God for SCOTUS?

  21. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Do you think God has changed his views on homosexuality? What do you think is his present stance on it?
    The Pope just recently said the church loves homosexuals to a gay parents group and has previously said if if a person is gay and loves God, who am I to judge?



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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    I guess I was being more hypothetical. A person that had the morals of God. Could they be nominated? Would Democrats embrace God for SCOTUS?
    They could be nominated depending on circumstances, Demoncrats would hate them.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    The Pope just recently said the church loves homosexuals to a gay parents group and has previously said if if a person is gay and loves God, who am I to judge?
    The Pope is apostate, the scriptures are clear on the subject.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    I guess I was being more hypothetical. A person that had the morals of God. Could they be nominated? Would Democrats embrace God for SCOTUS?
    Probably not since Democrats hate Christianity.
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  26. #172
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  27. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

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  28. #174
    Is Trump announcing his SCOTUS pick today or is it tomorrow?
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  29. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Is Trump announcing his SCOTUS pick today or is it tomorrow?
    Tomorrow, probably first thing in the morning.
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  30. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    State marriage licenses are.
    All those are is a power grab to voluntarily hand legal jurisdiction of a marital union over to the state so the state can legally meddle and dictate terms and so the attorneys can milk cash out of the marriage if it later dissolves. Since when does anyone need the approval of some courthouse bureaucrat to live, love and share life with one's chosen partner and call it whatever they want, marriage or otherwise? Absurd what people put up with.
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  33. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    All those are is a power grab to voluntarily hand legal jurisdiction of a marital union over to the state so the state can legally meddle and dictate terms and so the attorneys can milk cash out of the marriage if it later dissolves. Since when does anyone need the approval of some courthouse bureaucrat to live, love and share life with one's chosen partner and call it whatever they want, marriage or otherwise? Absurd what people put up with.
    It's something men agree to so that they can procreate, unless they are lucky enough to find the <1% of women who are ok with not being married by the state.
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  34. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's something men agree to so that they can procreate, unless they are lucky enough to find the <1% of women who are ok with not being married by the state.
    It doesn't matter if you find that 1%. When the relationship dissolves, the person with less or nothing goes after everything. I remember reading years ago about an elder care attorney that prepared living wills and every legal paper necessary to see their wishes fulfilled. When one got sick a healthcare facility challenged the designated person and got the courts involved. All the guys wishes were thrown out and overridden by a judge. Point is it doesn't matter what you want or agree to what matters is what the robed person mandates.

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ...bitter... man hating lesbians...
    Department of Redundancy Department x 3.

    I've been acquainted with a fair number of lesbians and of all of them only two can I say for certain were not lesbian because they hated men. The rest were all of the "kill all the men" religious denomination.
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