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    Maoists Burn Kenosha

    The rioters who attacked police officers with Molotov cocktails and fireworks and torched numerous buildings in Kenosha, Wisconsin, earlier this week included members of the same pro-China communist group that “sparked” the May riots in Minneapolis after the police-involved killing of George Floyd.

    Maoist activists from the Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO) can take most, if not all, of the credit for inciting the recent rioting in Kenosha. The town of 100,000 people has been torn apart, businesses and cars have been razed, multiple people have been arrested, and two people have died—yet no one seems to want to call out the real culprits.

    FRSO is based in the Midwest. It has maintained a strong presence in Chicago and Minneapolis for decades. The subversive organization has expanded in recent years into Milwaukee and the smaller university towns of Oshkosh and Kenosha, where new cadre are recruited through campus branches of FRSO’s youth wing: New Students for a Democratic Society.

    On Feb. 20, 2017, the day President Trump was inaugurated, FRSO political secretary Steff Yorek declared to a crowd of Washington, D.C. protesters: “We need to stay in the streets the entire four years opposing Trump and making the country ungovernable.”

    In November 2019, FRSO convened a conference in Chicago to form a new nationwide front organization: the National Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression (NAARPR).

    More accurately, it was a re-founding of an old Communist Party USA front of the 1970s of the same name. The original NAARPR was set up to free iconic communist Angela Davis, who was then under arrest for alleged complicity in the murder of a California judge. Davis was eventually acquitted of the murder charge in 1972, and she even came to Chicago to confer her blessing on the new organization.

    Headed by FRSO Central Committee member Frank Chapman, the new NAARPR is clearly designed to confront police about alleged issues of racism and police brutality. Chapman told FightBack! News:

    “Black and brown communities are over-patrolled and under-protected and must confront police harassment, racial profiling, torture and murder on a daily basis. This is not happening in just Chicago, New York City or Los Angeles; this happening throughout the nation.

    “We believe the enormity of the problem of police tyranny has created a mass demand for community control of the police. We believe this problem can best be confronted by a national movement organized by a refounding of the National Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression (NAARPR).”

    The NAARPR quickly established branches and alliances all over the country—all affiliated with FRSO or sympathetic communist groups.

    It was the Minneapolis affiliate of the NAARPR—the Twin Cities Coalition 4 Justice 4 Jamar—headed by FRSO comrades Jess Sundin and Lorraine VanPelt that is credited with sparking the Minneapolis riots.

    When protesters gathered in downtown Kenosha after the Aug. 23 police-involved shooting of Jacob Blake, three banners were clearly visible at the head of the several-hundred-strong crowd:

    The bright red FRSO banner, the green banner of the Milwaukee Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression, and the smaller black flag of New Students for a Democratic Society—probably the local University of Wisconsin—Parkside branch.

    Just before the march, a young woman led the crowd in a chant of “long live the revolution” directly in front of the signature FRSO banner. FRSO Facebook pages (both Wisconsin and national) contain extensive coverage of the protests and riots—as does the FRSO-affiliated website FightBack! News.

    The Milwaukee Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression Facebook page issued a call to free arrested protester Adelana Akindes—a leader of the UW Parkside New Students for a Democratic Society.

    The Milwaukee Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression is led by FRSO member Lauryn Cross.

    A Wisconsin FRSO Facebook page post on Aug. 25 features a quote from Mao over a picture of the Kenosha protest and the hashtags #Justice4JacobBlake #NationalLiberation and #Kenosha.

    “The people, and the people alone, are the motive force in the making of world history.” — Mao Zedong

    The Facebook post then highlights “our comrades on the frontlines down in Kenosha tonight.”

    More at: https://thedailyreformer.com/maoists-burn-kenosha/
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    Chinese supported communist revolutionaries in Kenosha.

    Freedom Road Socialist Organization
    August 24 at 7:40 PM ·

    Statement from our comrades in Kenosha, WI.
    Wisconsin FRSO
    August 24 at 7:36 PM

    Fight for justice for Jacob Blake! Arrest, charge, and convict KPD officers for attempted murder! Community control of the police now!

    A statement by the Kenosha branch of the Wisconsin Freedom Road Socialist Organization

    On the evening of Sunday, August 23rd the streets of Kenosha, Wisconsin ignited in protest. A 29 year old Black father named Jacob Blake was shot in the back seven times in front of his children by a white Kenosha Police officer.

    While Blake was fighting for his life in the hospital, a viral video of the attempted murder spurred hundreds of people to gather at the crime scene. The large crowd decided to march to the Kenosha Police Department, where they were attacked by militarized police with riot gear and tear gas.

    Garbage trucks set up by police as roadblocks were torched, and a dozen fires blazed into the early morning conjuring images of previous rebellions in Ferguson and Minneapolis.

    Mass protests are scheduled to continue, and Wisconsin FRSO welcomes the righteous rebellion against racist police crimes.

    As revolutionaries we understand that the United States is a jailhouse for the oppressed. Police enforce the oppression of African Americans and other oppressed nationalities in the United States. While we build toward socialist revolution against the white supremacist capitalist system, we also have to organize to win all that can be won under the current system.

    We demand that the National Guard deployed by Governor Tony Evers to brutalize protesters be recalled.

    We demand the Kenosha cop who shot Jacob Blake be immediately arrested, charged, and convicted.

    We demand real police accountability through community control of the police, and shifting police funding to essential public services like education.

    We call on protests to continue until all the demands of the movement are met.

    Nothing short of this will be accepted. No justice, no peace!
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    National socialists exploit rioting for political gain, more at 9pm (or whenever Hannity airs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    National socialists exploit rioting for political gain, more at 9pm (or whenever Hannity airs).
    Who is a national socialist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlerzzz View Post
    Who is a national socialist?
    The GOP is a national socialist outfit these days.

    ...and the Dems are a proletarian socialist outfit.

    NAZIs v. bolsheviks.

    ..all fairly moderate, so far, but the seeds are there.
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    Divide and conquer. Split off Aztlán and an African-American nation in the Black Belt South.

    The FRSO continues to explicitly uphold Marxism–Leninism. It operates according to democratic centralism, and has an anti-revisionist political line toward the world communist movement.[2] The FRSO actively maintains friendly relations with many Marxist–Leninist parties and organizations around the world, and annually participated in the International Communist Seminar.[3]

    The FRSO has a unique strategy for revolution in the United States: "to build the strategic alliance between the multinational working class and the oppressed nations under the leadership of the proletariat and its party."[4] It aims to create a multinational, revolutionary Marxist–Leninist Communist party in the U.S.

    The FRSO continues to support self-determination for the African-American nation in the Black Belt South, the Chicano nation in the Southwest and the Hawaiian nation in the Pacific Ocean. According to the FRSO, "a single, unified, multinational communist party is needed to build the strategic alliance" in place of the pre-split unity document's "support and encourage[ment of] the independent organization of oppressed nationality revolutionaries and progressives, where they have determined it to be necessary," support that extends even to the formation of communist parties of a single nationality.[5]

    FRSO upholds Joseph Stalin as one of the "principal theorists" of Marxism–Leninism, along with Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, and Mao Zedong. The FRSO recognizes Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and China as socialist countries. It also maintains close relations with the Workers Party of Belgium (WPB), participating annually in the WPB's International Communist Seminar. It was one of two U.S.-based groups to attend in 2006, along with the Workers World Party. The FRSO supports national liberation movements in Palestine, the Philippines and Colombia, and stands in solidarity with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the Communist Party of the Philippines, and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC-EP). Its continued solidarity with the national liberation movements in Colombia and Palestine in particular remain a defining feature of the organization since the 1999 split.

    The FRSO is active in the labor movement, the oppressed nationalities movements, the immigrant rights movement, and the student movement. It actively participates in the new Students for a Democratic Society.[6]
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The GOP is a national socialist outfit these days.

    ...and the Dems are a proletarian socialist outfit.

    NAZIs v. bolsheviks.

    ..all fairly moderate, so far, but the seeds are there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Morgan Freeman he's right you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The GOP is a national socialist outfit these days.

    ...and the Dems are a proletarian socialist outfit.

    NAZIs v. bolsheviks.

    ..all fairly moderate, so far, but the seeds are there.
    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Morgan Freeman he's right you know
    False equivocation.

    Yes, the status quo in the US is crony corporatist socialism. The question is, what direction do people want to go?

    Fascism, communism, state socialism all come together as full totalitarianism. At full totalitarianism, there is no mythical battle between fascists and communists. They are the same.

    There is one side that is status quo. The establishment continues to function, continues to spend. Trump is there. Many Democrats are still there. Trump has eliminated much regulation, adding to liberty. New spending takes away from liberty. This is the position of both Trump and the establishment Democrats. The Federal Reserve scams continue.

    But there is another side that is not status quo. That side wants full totalitarianism. They want an all powerful government that will give away, take away and silence all opposition by any means necessary. An ideal of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", but in reality would be standard tried and true totalitarian Marxist dictatorship, and many of them have no problem with that end result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    False equivocation.

    Yes, the status quo in the US is crony corporatist socialism. The question is, what direction do people want to go?

    Fascism, communism, state socialism all come together as full totalitarianism. At full totalitarianism, there is no mythical battle between fascists and communists. They are the same.

    There is one side that is status quo. The establishment continues to function, continues to spend. Trump is there. Many Democrats are still there. Trump has eliminated much regulation, adding to liberty. New spending takes away from liberty. This is the position of both Trump and the establishment Democrats. The Federal Reserve scams continue.

    But there is another side that is not status quo. That side wants full totalitarianism. They want an all powerful government that will give away, take away and silence all opposition by any means necessary. An ideal of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", but in reality would be standard tried and true totalitarian Marxist dictatorship, and many of them have no problem with that end result.
    Trump is slightly improving things overall and his enemies want to extinguish liberty entirely.
    But admitting that is not as self satisfying as being holier than thou.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    False equivocation.

    Yes, the status quo in the US is crony corporatist socialism. The question is, what direction do people want to go?
    It's pretty clear that they want more of the same.

    Fascism, communism, state socialism all come together as full totalitarianism. At full totalitarianism, there is no mythical battle between fascists and communists. They are the same.
    There are still differences, cultural differences, differences of style, different rhetoric, different scapegoats, i.e. unimportant differences.

    There is one side that is status quo. The establishment continues to function, continues to spend. Trump is there. Many Democrats are still there. Trump has eliminated much regulation, adding to liberty. New spending takes away from liberty. This is the position of both Trump and the establishment Democrats. The Federal Reserve scams continue.
    Trump's deregulation was a rounding error and PR stunt, and an effective one evidently.

    But there is another side that is not status quo. That side wants full totalitarianism. They want an all powerful government that will give away, take away and silence all opposition by any means necessary. An ideal of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", but in reality would be standard tried and true totalitarian Marxist dictatorship, and many of them have no problem with that end result.
    Yea, but that side doesn't matter politically.

    There's not going to be a bolshevik revolution; there's going to be a slow descent into bolshevism, or national socialism, as the case may be.

    It will be led by mainstream, popular politicians, not trigglypuffs or proud boys.
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    Mao Zedong would be so proud of what currently going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    It's pretty clear that they want more of the same.



    There are still differences, cultural differences, differences of style, different rhetoric, different scapegoats, i.e. unimportant differences.



    Trump's deregulation was a rounding error and PR stunt, and an effective one evidently.



    Yea, but that side doesn't matter politically.

    There's not going to be a bolshevik revolution; there's going to be a slow descent into bolshevism, or national socialism, as the case may be.

    It will be led by mainstream, popular politicians, not trigglypuffs or proud boys.
    Sure.

    I'm sure you would have told the same thing to the Tsar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Sure.

    I'm sure you would have told the same thing to the Tsar.
    Revolution is relatively unlikely in a democratic state.

    Popular revolution makes little sense, and revolution by a minority is a tough sell, given the perceived legitimacy of elected governments.

    That's not to say it won't happen, but it'll take a pretty extreme situation.

    Even semi-absolutist Russia only fell in the face of an apocalyptic world war.

    We've got a ways to go before we get to that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Revolution is relatively unlikely in a democratic state.

    Popular revolution makes little sense, and revolution by a minority is a tough sell, given the perceived legitimacy of elected governments.

    That's not to say it won't happen, but it'll take a pretty extreme situation.

    Even semi-absolutist Russia only fell in the face of an apocalyptic world war.

    We've got a ways to go before we get to that point.
    I think I'll believe my eyes and the actions of the enemy that has been bringing color revolutions to countries with varying kinds of government all over the world instead of the globalist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I think I'll believe my eyes and the actions of the enemy that has been bringing color revolutions to countries with varying kinds of government all over the world instead of the globalist.
    You mean the US government?

    Well, damn, you better keep sticking it to them by way of blind obedience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ...
    Yea, but that side doesn't matter politically.

    There's not going to be a bolshevik revolution; there's going to be a slow descent into bolshevism, or national socialism, as the case may be.

    It will be led by mainstream, popular politicians, not trigglypuffs or proud boys.
    There you go again. Don't worry about the Marxists. Don't vote.

    I see trigglypuffs in Congress. Quite a few of them. I don't see any "Proud Boys". The push for global socialism comes from the hard Marxist left (trigglypuffs) and the establishment.

    You hate Ron and Rand Paul, so you don't see any value in constitutional conservative and libertarian leaning politicians with an (R) next to their names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    There you go again. Don't worry about the Marxists. Don't vote.

    I see trigglypuffs in Congress. Quite a few of them. I don't see any "Proud Boys". The push for global socialism comes from the hard Marxist left (trigglypuffs) and the establishment.

    You hate Ron and Rand Paul, so you don't see any value in constitutional conservative and libertarian leaning politicians with an (R) next to their names.
    The "libertarian" movement no longer has room for libertarians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You mean the US government?

    Well, damn, you better keep sticking it to them by way of blind obedience.
    I mean the deepstate globalists and Trump and I are the ones disobeying while you want us to obey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I mean the deepstate globalists and Trump and I are the ones disobeying while you want us to obey.
    The derpstate hates it when the government bails out the special interests with trillions in free money...
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    This BLM Co-Founder and Pro-Communist China Group Are Partnering Up. Here’s Why.

    ...there has not been a peep from the media or Congress about China’s support of the riots.

    Go to the website for the Black Futures Lab, a venture of Black Lives Matter founder Alicia Garza, and click on the “Donate” button. It will ask you to send your money to an obscure organization, the Chinese Progressive Association, explaining that “Black Futures Lab is a fiscally sponsored project of the Chinese Progressive Association.”

    History of Chinese Progressive Association

    The CPA was founded in San Francisco in 1972 during the heady days of the Marxist-oriented Asian American Movement, and today it also has a very active chapter in Boston. From its start, it has been a promoter of the People’s Republic of China.
    ...
    Black Lives Matter Opposes Capitalism

    It is clear, then, that CPA works with China’s communist government, pushes its agenda here in the United States, and is regularly praised by China’s state-owned mouthpieces. It is clear, too, from, this perspective, why the CPA would sponsor a new enterprise by BLM founder Alicia Garza: they espouse the same desire for world communism.

    Garza sits atop a worldwide revolutionary empire, starting with the Black Lives Matter Global Network she founded, which now has 15 chapters in the U.S. and several more all over Canada, Australia, and Europe. As Foreign Affairs wrote in its September/October issue, “Today, BLM has a global network of dozens of chapters. This number will likely grow exponentially in the coming years.”
    ...
    Communist China has put its vast propaganda apparatus to work in support of the mayhem that has wreaked havoc in American cities this year. China is, after all, a rival of the United States, and would see weakening of U.S. society and the country in general as advantageous.
    ...
    More: https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/09/...-up-heres-why/
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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You mean the US government?

    Well, damn, you better keep sticking it to them by way of blind obedience.
    But the US Government has been a means, a hammer that doesn't swing itself. Granting, of course, that without a hammer the hand that swings would be capable of a great deal less mischief. Then, when this hammer is broken, it will merely pick up another.

    Revolution (making no claims as to its imminence nor likelihood) is, none-the-less, particularly violent in Democratic states--when there is a group, waning in power/influence, that none-the-less has ample means AND is threatened with extirpation.

    We're being played. Rather, there is a game being played on top of us. These are not shots fired at you, btw, just observations or whatever.
    Last edited by bv3; 09-15-2020 at 12:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bv3 View Post
    But the US Government has been a means, a hammer that doesn't swing itself. Granting, of course, that without a hammer the hand that swings would be capable of a great deal less mischief. Then, when this hammer is broken, it will merely pick up another.

    Revolution (making no claims as to its imminence nor likelihood) is, none-the-less, particularly violent in Democratic states--when there is a group, waning in power/influence, that none-the-less has ample means AND is threatened with extirpation.

    We're being played. Rather, there is a game being played on top of us. These are not shots fired at you, btw, just observations or whatever.
    I'm skeptical of explanations that rely on conspiracy simply because what's happening can be explained without reference to conspiracy. Or, let me put it this way, even if there were a shadowy group orchestrating these events, that in itself would be a symptom of a more fundamental problem (i.e. the nature of this political system in general). Put yet another way, had Catiline never been born, someone else would sooner or later have attempted something similar anyway, given the nature of the political system in the late republic. To say that that crisis wouldn't have happened absent Catiline isn't wrong, but it's missing the larger point: so for explanations involving Soros or whoever today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I'm skeptical of explanations that rely on conspiracy simply because what's happening can be explained without reference to conspiracy. Or, let me put it this way, even if there were a shadowy group orchestrating these events, that in itself would be a symptom of a more fundamental problem (i.e. the nature of this political system in general). Put yet another way, had Catiline never been born, someone else would sooner or later have attempted something similar anyway, given the nature of the political system in the late republic. To say that that crisis wouldn't have happened absent Catiline isn't wrong, but it's missing the larger point: so for explanations involving Soros or whoever today.
    Points well taken. Have to work on some other things but will update this space with some thoughts (out of rep).
    Last edited by bv3; 09-16-2020 at 02:54 PM.

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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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