Colin Noir (former NRA TV host) speaks on Kyle Rittenhouse

[jmdrake]

Very good non-emotional breakdown.

[nobody's_hero]

Good breakdown.

I know a lot of people here probably wouldn't agree with me on this, but honestly I think if there is going to be a resurgence of militias in the USA to the extent they were pre-civil war, then it would have to be done within the context of local governance. Private militias are all fine and good, but the vast majority have nothing near the level of organization and accountability that state militias had in their heyday. I look at these militias that are cropping up and to me it just seems like people treat it like a cool kids club, and that's a mockery of what the militia could be (and once was).

[tod evans]

Calm and rational...

Which means, of course, that it'll be ignored by the emotion driven media.

[Anti Globalist]

A complete and reasonable understanding of the situation. I doubt any new evidence will come forth saying Kyle was the aggressor.

[Anti Federalist]

Very good non-emotional breakdown.

Yup, that pretty much sums it up.

And that's what they'll hang him on, the minor with a weapon charge.

But here's the kicker...they are trying him as an adult, so how can you be charged with that if the legal system is considering you to be an adult in the case?

Also, he makes the same point about mob dynamics that I was making in the Rand Paul thread.

[phill4paul]

Yup, that pretty much sums it up.

And that's what they'll hang him on, the minor with a weapon charge.

But here's the kicker...they are trying him as an adult, so how can you be charged with that if the legal system is considering you to be an adult in the case?

Also, he makes the same point about mob dynamics that I was making in the Rand Paul thread.

That is what I have been wondering.

[jmdrake]

Yup, that pretty much sums it up.

And that's what they'll hang him on, the minor with a weapon charge.

But here's the kicker...they are trying him as an adult, so how can you be charged with that if the legal system is considering you to be an adult in the case?

Also, he makes the same point about mob dynamics that I was making in the Rand Paul thread.

Yep. I noticed that in the charging document even before I saw this video. Interesting point you're making about charging him as an adult. I didn't think of that. You'd make a good lawyer!

As for the crowd dynamics there are three things to consider. 1) What the crowd has done. 2) What the crowd intends to do and 3) What the crowd might do. Possibility #1 is self explanatory. Possibilities 2 and 3 get conflated. It's important to be as accurate as possible on #1 to have the best understanding of #s 2 and 3.

[Anti Federalist]

Yep. I noticed that in the charging document even before I saw this video. Interesting point you're making about charging him as an adult. I didn't think of that. You'd make a good lawyer!

I've heard that before, not in a good way.

As for the crowd dynamics there are three things to consider. 1) What the crowd has done. 2) What the crowd intends to do and 3) What the crowd might do. Possibility #1 is self explanatory. Possibilities 2 and 3 get conflated. It's important to be as accurate as possible on #1 to have the best understanding of #s 2 and 3.

In Rand's case, I think there was every reason for him to be scared or "terrified" I think he said, as to what the mob around him was doing and going to do.

They were being verbally abusive, making explicit threats of physical violence (we're gonna $#@! you up) and making violent physical contact.

That's enough for me and it would be enough to justify, if maybe not the use of, but certainly the display of deadly force. (Back away, or I'll shoot you)

[Brian4Liberty]

Good breakdown.

I know a lot of people here probably wouldn't agree with me on this, but honestly I think if there is going to be a resurgence of militias in the USA to the extent they were pre-civil war, then it would have to be done within the context of local governance. Private militias are all fine and good, but the vast majority have nothing near the level of organization and accountability that state militias had in their heyday. I look at these militias that are cropping up and to me it just seems like people treat it like a cool kids club, and that's a mockery of what the militia could be (and once was).

Are you saying that the militias should be "well regulated"? That's just crazy talk!

[Brian4Liberty]

Very good non-emotional breakdown.

Good analysis. It would be interesting to find out how Kyle ended up solo and running like that.

[Intoxiklown]

I've heard that before, not in a good way.





In Rand's case, I think there was every reason for him to be scared or "terrified" I think he said, as to what the mob around him was doing and going to do.

They were being verbally abusive, making explicit threats of physical violence (we're gonna $#@! you up) and making violent physical contact.

That's enough for me and it would be enough to justify, if maybe not the use of, but certainly the display of deadly force. (Back away, or I'll shoot you)

When I was 20 years old and working at a bar in Paducah, KY I was jumped by four guys, one of which had a box cutter he seemed positive he could sharpen on me. Ever since then someone telling me what they are going to do means the micro second their shoulders square up to me is justification for me to pistol whip them, deck them, stab them.....whatever it takes. Because that experience put it in my head that anyone wanting to fight is willing to take my life, so that's how I fight back.

The only person whose ever walked this earth that ever made "violent physical contact" with me and didn't wind up in a fight that caused us both to have a bad day was my father.

[69360]

Yup, that pretty much sums it up.

And that's what they'll hang him on, the minor with a weapon charge.

But here's the kicker...they are trying him as an adult, so how can you be charged with that if the legal system is considering you to be an adult in the case?

Also, he makes the same point about mob dynamics that I was making in the Rand Paul thread.

It was a long gun. Are kids not allowed to legally carry a long gun in Wisconsin? How do they hunt?