Rand Paul Assaulted Again?!! Edit: He is OK

[Swordsmyth]

Maybe. Maybe not. If the "Jacobin/Marxist mob" had really wanted to hurt Rand Paul those few officers there at the beginning wouldn't have be able to stop that. In fact some of the "violent mob" were close enough to whisper in the ears of Rand, his wife and his guest. Nothing would have stopped a shanking if that's what they wanted to do. Seems like instead they wanted to talk. But hey, you're free to project into the minds of people you don't know whatever it is you want regardless of what the video shows or doesn't show. From the title I was expecting what happened when Rand was mowing his lawn. (You know. An actual violent assault.) I'm thankful that's not at all what happened.

Leftists are cowards at heart, they often take time to work themselves up to violence, especially when there is a cop and cameras present.
Had more police not come and had Rand stuck around they would have done a lot more than just verbally assault him.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Yeah, they just want to talk. Why? Because they don't yet have their druthers. Assaulting a GOP politician would still land them in prison and a heap of trouble they're not ready for. These aren't hard scrabble working class hooligans. They're not even really revolutionary Marxists. They're over-educated bourgeois kids who are the tip of the spear of neoliberal corporate leftism. They're not throwing their very expensive education away just because they want to punch a politician.

But if they had their druthers, Rand and everyone remotely close to him politically would be dead. In the meantime they'll settle for submission.

[nobody's_hero]

Choosing sides?

Leftist RPF'ers think choosing a side makes you a shill for the two party system.

Leftist RPF'ers want you to pretend that there aren't communists in the streets calling for cultural revolution, setting businesses on fire, placing guillotines in public places, beating 71 year olds into the hospital, shooting into cars with families inside.

I should start naming these leftist RPF'ers in every related post. That would be fun.

Meh...I'll start now. @TheCount @PAF

Don't worry, there are more but for now...Enjoy~

They just don't understand that the sides have already been chosen, and they're still holding out hope for a kum-ba-ya moment where everyone whips out a joint and holds hands and topples the state with hugs. I believed that back in 2008.

[jct74]

[jmdrake]

Leftists are cowards at heart, they often take time to work themselves up to violence, especially when there is a cop and cameras present.
Had more police not come and had Rand stuck around they would have done a lot more than just verbally assault him.

Yeah, they just want to talk. Why? Because they don't yet have their druthers. Assaulting a GOP politician would still land them in prison and a heap of trouble they're not ready for. These aren't hard scrabble working class hooligans. They're not even really revolutionary Marxists. They're over-educated bourgeois kids who are the tip of the spear of neoliberal corporate leftism. They're not throwing their very expensive education away just because they want to punch a politician.

But if they had their druthers, Rand and everyone remotely close to him politically would be dead. In the meantime they'll settle for submission.

They just don't understand that the sides have already been chosen, and they're still holding out hope for a kum-ba-ya moment where everyone whips out a joint and holds hands and topples the state with hugs. I believed that back in 2008.

Anything is possible. But there were cops around. And the whole point of any protest movement is to have cameras. There are violent cowardly rightest (Tim McVeigh anyone?) and violent cowardly leftists. And then there are people who simply want to be heard. They should be heard. I'm certain that Rand Paul was less concerned for his safety then you and other people here opining about it are. I personally know a lot of leftists, my own sons for example, who have protested and who would have love the chance to tell a sitting U.S. senator what they felt about the death of Breona Taylor and other cases of police brutality. You do yourself a disservice but lumping all leftest together in a whole the same way people on the left do themselves a disservice by lumping rightest together as a whole. Get out of the echo chamber long enough to hear the other side.

It's funny but I see right wing radicals "working together" with left wing radicals. In Nashville when the courthouse was vandalized and set on fire the one leading the violent mob was a white neo Nazi. Neo-Nazis have set up fake Twitter accounts to advocate for violence. And we see that Richard Spencer, who used to be a vocal Trump support and seen as extreme right, has all of a sudden jumped ship to team Biden. Get out of the echo chamber. Break out of the bubble. Talk to non-violent people on the other side. There are a lot more of them than you think. And there are a lot more Richard Spencers than you think as well.

[jmdrake]

Thank you! Keep us posted.

[jct74]

Thank you! Keep us posted.

video here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...p-Friends-8-28

[jmdrake]

Perhaps Denzell needs to step up and condemn the JacobinMarxists co-opting BLM? Be a real voice.

Until BLM condemns and excommunicates the Jacobin/Marxist element they are percieved as supporting it.

I'd love to see some bruthers throw down on some white, inculcated, Marxists.

But, I haven't. Yet.

I just thought about something. What you're saying is exactly what people on the left say about Donald Trump not categorically condemning the right in Charlottesville. The "we just want our statues up" crowd was marching right along with the "May the Fuher rest in peace" tiki torch wielding neo Nazi crowd and the KKK. (There was a time when the KKK and the Nazis hated each other. Nazi stands for national socialism after all.) Everybody wants the other side to kick out the bad elements. Meanwhile the bad elements infiltrate both the left and the right. One of the leaders of Charlottesville came from Occupy Wallstreet. And neo-Nazis have instigated BLM violence.

[jmdrake]

video here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...p-Friends-8-28

Thanks!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jct74 again.

[ProBlue33]

I am tired of this garbage, if they want a new civil war, I am not sure this generation is ready for causalities.
They are pushing for a war, even if Biden gets elected he will want to but this down as the destabilization and anarchy will have served his political purpose.

[Cleaner44]

These street Jacobins are, quite literally, Know-Nothings.

When pressed with serious questions, all they can do is screech, especially the broads, like demons sprinkled with holy water.

Demons. Evil, violent demons. Protect yourself at all times.

[Anti Globalist]

Thankfully Rand was ok.

[Champ]

Communists are not compatible with liberty.

The Marxist left that is screaming in America's face can't be reasoned with. They want to bring about a violent revolution that is the exact opposite of the r3VOLution we here once advocated for.

This pretty much sums it all up.

You can see the terror in Rand's face as this is happening, despite the fact he has worked harder than pretty much anyone else in both bodies of Congress to restore people's rights and preserve their liberty, including doing more for the supposed causes that BLM is fighting for than BLM themselves.

Why is it Rand continues to be targeted in dangerous situations over the last 3-4 years? Is he really just that unlucky? Gut instinct is telling me no.

[jmdrake]

This pretty much sums it all up.

You can see the terror in Rand's face as this is happening, despite the fact he has worked harder than pretty much anyone else in both bodies of Congress to restore people's rights and preserve their liberty, including doing more for the supposed causes that BLM is fighting for than BLM themselves.

Why is it Rand continues to be targeted in dangerous situations over the last 3-4 years? Is he really just that unlucky? Gut instinct is telling me no.

In this particular case Rand chose to walk two blocks after being informed by the Secret Service that things were dangerous. (His words on Fox and Friends this morning). Based on that I don't know why he didn't call for a police escort before attempting to walk down the street instead of after he got hemmed up.

[RJB]

Rand had his back.

I was going to say that.

Most politicians cower, worrying only about themselves, and seem to treat security like dumb brutes. Rand was concerned about others as all hell was breaking loose. To me, that says more about his character than any flowery rhetoric delivered from the safety of a podium.

Grace under pressure!

Rand Paul 2024!

[Champ]

They just don't understand that the sides have already been chosen, and they're still holding out hope for a kum-ba-ya moment where everyone whips out a joint and holds hands and topples the state with hugs. I believed that back in 2008.

Yup. We can still wake people up that already had 1 foot out the door or speak with people that have long been apolitical but have decided enough is enough due to the craziness of the times, but you can't rationalize with mobs like this. It will never happen, it's not supposed to happen by design. My naive former self believed this, and recent events have been more than enough to be a wake up call. Some people just want to watch the world burn and that's all this is about.

These people are not self-aware rational thinkers, they are minions, in some cases literally MKultra'd, for well funded elites that are sending them out as their personal human shields to do their bidding for them so they do not have to have their own blood spilled to enact their doctrines. You cannot have a conversation or talk sense with people that have been twisted into this false state of humanity.

[Sammy]

This why I support Trump.
The left is pure evil

[Todd]

wow...you should see all the comments on the lib sites. completely opposite.

A couple of good points. Why did Rand see it as wise to leave the area on foot with all the possible danger, especially with his wife? I'm not going to say it was for a scene to unfold, but why not just take the limo to your next location

[jmdrake]

wow...you should see all the comments on the lib sites. completely opposite.

Opposite as in they didn't see Rand in any danger, or opposite as in they were verbally attacking Rand?

A couple of good points. Why did Rand see it as wise to leave the area on foot with all the possible danger, especially with his wife? I'm not going to say it was for a scene to unfold, but why not just take the limo to your next location

Yeah...I'm still trying to figure that one out. Rand said that on the advice of the Secret Service, even though he could have walked from the White House to his hotel, he first took a bus to the Trump hotel which took 45 minutes. Then he said he took and Uber but they couldn't get all the way back because the streets were blocked. So....he decides to walk the last couple of blocks? That just doesn't make sense.

[Brian4Liberty]

This pretty much sums it all up.

You can see the terror in Rand's face as this is happening, despite the fact he has worked harder than pretty much anyone else in both bodies of Congress to restore people's rights and preserve their liberty, including doing more for the supposed causes that BLM is fighting for than BLM themselves.

Why is it Rand continues to be targeted in dangerous situations over the last 3-4 years? Is he really just that unlucky? Gut instinct is telling me no.

I know some hardcore leftists. Rand is regularly demonized on MSNBC. Communists, socialists, fascists and crony corporatists all know that libertarianism is the true opposite of their philosophy. There would be no BLM riots in the streets if not for the continuous and ongoing conditioning and brainwashing by CNN & MSNBC.

[Todd]

Opposite as in they didn't see Rand in any danger, or opposite as in they were verbally attacking Rand?



Yeah...I'm still trying to figure that one out. Rand said that on the advice of the Secret Service, even though he could have walked from the White House to his hotel, he first took a bus to the Trump hotel which took 45 minutes. Then he said he took and Uber but they couldn't get all the way back because the streets were blocked. So....he decides to walk the last couple of blocks? That just doesn't make sense.

opposite as in calling him a fool for trying to make a scene. I'm not out and out going to call it stupid, but Just get in the limo and go unless you have something you want to prove.

[Brian4Liberty]

opposite as in calling him a fool for trying to make a scene. I'm not out and out going to call it stupid, but Just get in the limo and go unless you have something you want to prove.

The streets were blocked so no vehicle could get to the hotel. The last two blocks probably looked safe enough to walk, but that is deceiving. It's like a zombie show. One sees you, and they all come running.

The guy taking video was the first to recognize Rand, and by warning Rand and taking video, probably brought attention to Rand. The mob will gather if they think there is something going on or someone to assault. It doesn't matter who it is, they don't even have to know who it is, they are just looking for someone to assault.

Another major tactical error was staying in one place for so long. That just invites the zombie mobs to gather and grow.

[Anti Federalist]

Yeah, they just want to talk. Why? Because they don't yet have their druthers. Assaulting a GOP politician would still land them in prison and a heap of trouble they're not ready for. These aren't hard scrabble working class hooligans. They're not even really revolutionary Marxists. They're over-educated bourgeois kids who are the tip of the spear of neoliberal corporate leftism. They're not throwing their very expensive education away just because they want to punch a politician.

But if they had their druthers, Rand and everyone remotely close to him politically would be dead. In the meantime they'll settle for submission.

Now you know why they are propagandizing and inflaming urban blacks.

[dannno]

The "we just want our statues up" crowd was marching right along with the "May the Fuher rest in peace" tiki torch wielding neo Nazi crowd and the KKK.

That is VERY wrong. You really shouldn't post stuff you don't know about. There were about 80 or so tiki torch $#@!s, they had their own space. There were hundreds of people on the right protesting the statue removal, they were in a different area. The police were protecting the nazi area and told other people not to go down to the nazi rally... the nazi rally was not advertised as such, it was advertised as a "Unite the Right" rally. Most of the statue people were there because they heard about it on the news, anyway.

So no, the statue people did not "march alongside" the nazis, they didn't know nazis were even going to be there.

Trump condemned in no uncertain terms the nazis and white supremacists, he condemned them TOTALLY.

Stop promoting the "fine people" hoax, it is literally the dumbest thing in the entire world. All you have to do is read the transcript.

[dannno]

wow...you should see all the comments on the lib sites. completely opposite.

A couple of good points. Why did Rand see it as wise to leave the area on foot with all the possible danger, especially with his wife? I'm not going to say it was for a scene to unfold, but why not just take the limo to your next location

He was going to their hotel, which was close by, and I did not see that there were cars in the street with all the roadblocks.

[dannno]

Yeah...I'm still trying to figure that one out. Rand said that on the advice of the Secret Service, even though he could have walked from the White House to his hotel, he first took a bus to the Trump hotel which took 45 minutes. Then he said he took and Uber but they couldn't get all the way back because the streets were blocked. So....he decides to walk the last couple of blocks? That just doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense, his hotel happened to be in the middle of the protest area, which was blocked from traffic. You could see the roadblocks.

[nobody's_hero]

You do yourself a disservice but lumping all leftest together in a whole the same way people on the left do themselves a disservice by lumping rightest together as a whole. Get out of the echo chamber long enough to hear the other side.
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And that's what you don't get. They declared me their enemy. I could care less to be involved with them whatsoever, but they insist, so here we are. War doesn't require both sides to be in agreement for the war to take place. So please, stop implying that we're actively seeking out this confrontation.

Besides it seems much more practical to take down one wing of this bird at a time, and if the left wants to go first, so be it.

I DON'T see the practicality of unnecessarily burdening ourselves with reaching out to a mere handful of sane lefties who for whatever reason are still supporting democrats. The payoff seems incredibly miniscule. And having people come around and chastise us for not being willing to engage in such folly is getting pretty. damn. old.

[familydog]

The problem is that the right will never fight back en masse. What will happen if Joe Biden wins? The right will grumble and move on until the next election.

The right is like a submissive boyfriend who hates his relationship. He is biding his time waiting for his girlfriend to end it because he can't take confrontation.

[jmdrake]

And that's what you don't get. They declared me their enemy. I could care less to be involved with them whatsoever, but they insist, so here we are. War doesn't require both sides to be in agreement for the war to take place. So please, stop implying that we're actively seeking out this confrontation.

Besides it seems much more practical to take down one wing of this bird at a time, and if the left wants to go first, so be it.

I DON'T see the practicality of unnecessarily burdening ourselves with reaching out to a mere handful of sane lefties who for whatever reason are still supporting democrats. The payoff seems incredibly miniscule. And having people come around and chastise us for not being willing to engage in such folly is getting pretty. damn. old.

My own son is a leftist. I assure you that he doesn't see you as an "enemy." Hell, he doesn't even know you. Living in both worlds at the same time I see a lot of needless fear mongering from both sides. This reminds me of the times my mom and her twin sister (may she rest in peace) didn't get along. What each said about the other mirrored perfectly.

[jmdrake]

It makes perfect sense, his hotel happened to be in the middle of the protest area, which was blocked from traffic. You could see the roadblocks.

No it doesn't. Making sense would have been staying at the Trump hotel for the night. Or calling for a police escort for the Uber. Or a host of other things other than waking down the street with just yourself and three women.