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    Rand Paul Assaulted Again?!! Edit: He is OK

    Sorry no details yet, this is a livestream, I can't rewind...

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgXPeYLYxL

    Edit: Copy of Post #4

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Looks like no serious injuries.

    Rand, his wife and a guest were walking back to their hotel from the final night at the RNC. Jack Murphy saw him and said, "hey, don't go that way, don't go to the left.."

    But apparently that's where their hotel was.. so they kept going. The mob began crowding around them, and so he walked over to a police officer, and waited for a few minutes for more police to escort them to the hotel. In the mean time they had things thrown at them and were yelling at them and blocking them in the middle of a few dozen people.

    Cops came, escorted them to the hotel, I think Kelley may have lost a shoe.
    Last edited by dannno; 08-27-2020 at 11:56 PM.
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    I think he is OK, he made it back to his hotel apparently..
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Replay is up
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    What happened to DC security?

  6. #5
    Looks like no serious injuries.

    Rand, his wife and a guest were walking back to their hotel from the final night at the RNC. Jack Murphy saw him and said, "hey, don't go that way, don't go to the left.."

    But apparently that's where their hotel was.. so they kept going. The mob began crowding around them, and so he walked over to a police officer, and waited for a few minutes for more police to escort them to the hotel. In the mean time they had things thrown at them and were yelling at them and blocking them in the middle of a few dozen people.

    Cops came, escorted them to the hotel, I think Kelley may have lost a shoe.
    Last edited by dannno; 08-27-2020 at 11:56 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Looks like no serious injuries.

    Rand, his wife and a guest were walking back to their hotel from the final night at the RNC. Jack Murphy saw him and said, "hey, don't go that way, don't go to the left.."

    But apparently that's where their hotel was.. so they kept going. The mob began crowding around them, and so he walked over to a police officer, and waited for a few minutes for more police to escort them to the hotel. In the mean time they had things thrown at them and were yelling at them and blocking them in the middle of a few dozen people.

    Cops came, escorted them to the hotel, I think Kelley may have lost a shoe.
    It was the brunette who lost her shoe. I didn't see anything thrown in the video though Mr. Murphy kept saying that. Most of the people were just talking. Some yelling. Some waiving signs. Apparently some chemical agent was used by the larger group of police when they showed up. That wasn't caught on video but Mr. Murphy said he saw people rubbing their eyes and pouring water on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    It was the brunette who lost her shoe. I didn't see anything thrown in the video though Mr. Murphy kept saying that. Most of the people were just talking. Some yelling. Some waiving signs. Apparently some chemical agent was used by the larger group of police when they showed up. That wasn't caught on video but Mr. Murphy said he saw people rubbing their eyes and pouring water on them.
    A Jacobin/Marxist mob honed in on Rand Paul. Had cops not been there he would probably have been beaten bloody.

    $#@! the Jacobin/Marxists.

    A bullet to the brain pan is all the deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    A Jacobin/Marxist mob honed in on Rand Paul. Had cops not been there he would probably have been beaten bloody.

    $#@! the Jacobin/Marxists.

    A bullet to the brain pan is all the deserve.
    Maybe. Maybe not. If the "Jacobin/Marxist mob" had really wanted to hurt Rand Paul those few officers there at the beginning wouldn't have be able to stop that. In fact some of the "violent mob" were close enough to whisper in the ears of Rand, his wife and his guest. Nothing would have stopped a shanking if that's what they wanted to do. Seems like instead they wanted to talk. But hey, you're free to project into the minds of people you don't know whatever it is you want regardless of what the video shows or doesn't show. From the title I was expecting what happened when Rand was mowing his lawn. (You know. An actual violent assault.) I'm thankful that's not at all what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Maybe. Maybe not. If the "Jacobin/Marxist mob" had really wanted to hurt Rand Paul those few officers there at the beginning wouldn't have be able to stop that. In fact some of the "violent mob" were close enough to whisper in the ears of Rand, his wife and his guest. Nothing would have stopped a shanking if that's what they wanted to do. Seems like instead they wanted to talk. But hey, you're free to project into the minds of people you don't know whatever it is you want regardless of what the video shows or doesn't show. From the title I was expecting what happened when Rand was mowing his lawn. (You know. An actual violent assault.) I'm thankful that's not at all what happened.
    It was damn close if you ask me. That was a lot more than want to talk. That crowd was there looking for trouble. The guy who shoved the bike cop could easily be charged with assault on an officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Maybe. Maybe not. If the "Jacobin/Marxist mob" had really wanted to hurt Rand Paul those few officers there at the beginning wouldn't have be able to stop that. In fact some of the "violent mob" were close enough to whisper in the ears of Rand, his wife and his guest. Nothing would have stopped a shanking if that's what they wanted to do. Seems like instead they wanted to talk. But hey, you're free to project into the minds of people you don't know whatever it is you want regardless of what the video shows or doesn't show. From the title I was expecting what happened when Rand was mowing his lawn. (You know. An actual violent assault.) I'm thankful that's not at all what happened.
    I recognize intimidation. Have you ever? If the cops weren't there what do you think would happen. A pleasant conversation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Nothing would have stopped a shanking if that's what they wanted to do. Seems like instead they wanted to talk.
    Yea, they wanted to talk.....

    Just like Rand's neighbor was just trying to show his passion for universal healthcare

    Just like the GOP baseball shooter was trying to lobby republican officials.

    Just like Jacob Blake was trying to "leave" according to your own words.



    Leftists really do see something entirely different and expend extraordinary amounts of energy trying to minimize the perceived violence of the radical left mob.

    None of those idiots wanted to be on camera assaulting/murdering a US Senator. If no cameras, Rand would be dead or close to it. We should all be thankful that there were some good people around and police escorts.





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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Maybe. Maybe not. If the "Jacobin/Marxist mob" had really wanted to hurt Rand Paul those few officers there at the beginning wouldn't have be able to stop that. In fact some of the "violent mob" were close enough to whisper in the ears of Rand, his wife and his guest. Nothing would have stopped a shanking if that's what they wanted to do. Seems like instead they wanted to talk. But hey, you're free to project into the minds of people you don't know whatever it is you want regardless of what the video shows or doesn't show. From the title I was expecting what happened when Rand was mowing his lawn. (You know. An actual violent assault.) I'm thankful that's not at all what happened.
    Leftists are cowards at heart, they often take time to work themselves up to violence, especially when there is a cop and cameras present.
    Had more police not come and had Rand stuck around they would have done a lot more than just verbally assault him.
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    $#@! these violent thugs!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    $#@! these violent thugs!



    This is a time for choosing sides.

    Choosing sides?

    Leftist RPF'ers think choosing a side makes you a shill for the two party system.

    Leftist RPF'ers want you to pretend that there aren't communists in the streets calling for cultural revolution, setting businesses on fire, placing guillotines in public places, beating 71 year olds into the hospital, shooting into cars with families inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Choosing sides?

    Leftist RPF'ers think choosing a side makes you a shill for the two party system.

    Leftist RPF'ers want you to pretend that there aren't communists in the streets calling for cultural revolution, setting businesses on fire, placing guillotines in public places, beating 71 year olds into the hospital, shooting into cars with families inside.

    I should start naming these leftist RPF'ers in every related post. That would be fun.

    Meh...I'll start now. @TheCount @PAF
    Enjoy~
    Communists are not compatible with liberty.

    The Marxist left that is screaming in America's face can't be reasoned with. They want to bring about a violent revolution that is the exact opposite of the r3VOLution we here once advocated for.

    The parties have been clarified and liberty's future dies in one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    The Marxist left that is screaming in America's face can't be reasoned with. They want to bring about a violent revolution that is the exact opposite of the r3VOLution we here once advocated for.
    There is no doubt of this.

    None.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    There is no doubt of this.

    None.
    But the RPF leftists are telling us that the mob only wanted to talk to Rand. Its just talking.



    Yup, just trying to talk...






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    These street Jacobins are, quite literally, Know-Nothings.

    When pressed with serious questions, all they can do is screech, especially the broads, like demons sprinkled with holy water.

    You mean like this?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Communists are not compatible with liberty.

    The Marxist left that is screaming in America's face can't be reasoned with. They want to bring about a violent revolution that is the exact opposite of the r3VOLution we here once advocated for.
    This pretty much sums it all up.

    You can see the terror in Rand's face as this is happening, despite the fact he has worked harder than pretty much anyone else in both bodies of Congress to restore people's rights and preserve their liberty, including doing more for the supposed causes that BLM is fighting for than BLM themselves.

    Why is it Rand continues to be targeted in dangerous situations over the last 3-4 years? Is he really just that unlucky? Gut instinct is telling me no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    This pretty much sums it all up.

    You can see the terror in Rand's face as this is happening, despite the fact he has worked harder than pretty much anyone else in both bodies of Congress to restore people's rights and preserve their liberty, including doing more for the supposed causes that BLM is fighting for than BLM themselves.

    Why is it Rand continues to be targeted in dangerous situations over the last 3-4 years? Is he really just that unlucky? Gut instinct is telling me no.
    In this particular case Rand chose to walk two blocks after being informed by the Secret Service that things were dangerous. (His words on Fox and Friends this morning). Based on that I don't know why he didn't call for a police escort before attempting to walk down the street instead of after he got hemmed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    This pretty much sums it all up.

    You can see the terror in Rand's face as this is happening, despite the fact he has worked harder than pretty much anyone else in both bodies of Congress to restore people's rights and preserve their liberty, including doing more for the supposed causes that BLM is fighting for than BLM themselves.

    Why is it Rand continues to be targeted in dangerous situations over the last 3-4 years? Is he really just that unlucky? Gut instinct is telling me no.
    I know some hardcore leftists. Rand is regularly demonized on MSNBC. Communists, socialists, fascists and crony corporatists all know that libertarianism is the true opposite of their philosophy. There would be no BLM riots in the streets if not for the continuous and ongoing conditioning and brainwashing by CNN & MSNBC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Choosing sides?

    Leftist RPF'ers think choosing a side makes you a shill for the two party system.

    Leftist RPF'ers want you to pretend that there aren't communists in the streets calling for cultural revolution, setting businesses on fire, placing guillotines in public places, beating 71 year olds into the hospital, shooting into cars with families inside.

    I should start naming these leftist RPF'ers in every related post. That would be fun.

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    They just don't understand that the sides have already been chosen, and they're still holding out hope for a kum-ba-ya moment where everyone whips out a joint and holds hands and topples the state with hugs. I believed that back in 2008.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Leftists are cowards at heart, they often take time to work themselves up to violence, especially when there is a cop and cameras present.
    Had more police not come and had Rand stuck around they would have done a lot more than just verbally assault him.
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    Yeah, they just want to talk. Why? Because they don't yet have their druthers. Assaulting a GOP politician would still land them in prison and a heap of trouble they're not ready for. These aren't hard scrabble working class hooligans. They're not even really revolutionary Marxists. They're over-educated bourgeois kids who are the tip of the spear of neoliberal corporate leftism. They're not throwing their very expensive education away just because they want to punch a politician.

    But if they had their druthers, Rand and everyone remotely close to him politically would be dead. In the meantime they'll settle for submission.
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    They just don't understand that the sides have already been chosen, and they're still holding out hope for a kum-ba-ya moment where everyone whips out a joint and holds hands and topples the state with hugs. I believed that back in 2008.

    Anything is possible. But there were cops around. And the whole point of any protest movement is to have cameras. There are violent cowardly rightest (Tim McVeigh anyone?) and violent cowardly leftists. And then there are people who simply want to be heard. They should be heard. I'm certain that Rand Paul was less concerned for his safety then you and other people here opining about it are. I personally know a lot of leftists, my own sons for example, who have protested and who would have love the chance to tell a sitting U.S. senator what they felt about the death of Breona Taylor and other cases of police brutality. You do yourself a disservice but lumping all leftest together in a whole the same way people on the left do themselves a disservice by lumping rightest together as a whole. Get out of the echo chamber long enough to hear the other side.

    It's funny but I see right wing radicals "working together" with left wing radicals. In Nashville when the courthouse was vandalized and set on fire the one leading the violent mob was a white neo Nazi. Neo-Nazis have set up fake Twitter accounts to advocate for violence. And we see that Richard Spencer, who used to be a vocal Trump support and seen as extreme right, has all of a sudden jumped ship to team Biden. Get out of the echo chamber. Break out of the bubble. Talk to non-violent people on the other side. There are a lot more of them than you think. And there are a lot more Richard Spencers than you think as well.
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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You do yourself a disservice but lumping all leftest together in a whole the same way people on the left do themselves a disservice by lumping rightest together as a whole. Get out of the echo chamber long enough to hear the other side.
    .
    And that's what you don't get. They declared me their enemy. I could care less to be involved with them whatsoever, but they insist, so here we are. War doesn't require both sides to be in agreement for the war to take place. So please, stop implying that we're actively seeking out this confrontation.

    Besides it seems much more practical to take down one wing of this bird at a time, and if the left wants to go first, so be it.

    I DON'T see the practicality of unnecessarily burdening ourselves with reaching out to a mere handful of sane lefties who for whatever reason are still supporting democrats. The payoff seems incredibly miniscule. And having people come around and chastise us for not being willing to engage in such folly is getting pretty. damn. old.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Anything is possible. But there were cops around. And the whole point of any protest movement is to have cameras. There are violent cowardly rightest (Tim McVeigh anyone?) and violent cowardly leftists. And then there are people who simply want to be heard. They should be heard. I'm certain that Rand Paul was less concerned for his safety then you and other people here opining about it are. I personally know a lot of leftists, my own sons for example, who have protested and who would have love the chance to tell a sitting U.S. senator what they felt about the death of Breona Taylor and other cases of police brutality. You do yourself a disservice but lumping all leftest together in a whole the same way people on the left do themselves a disservice by lumping rightest together as a whole. Get out of the echo chamber long enough to hear the other side.

    It's funny but I see right wing radicals "working together" with left wing radicals. In Nashville when the courthouse was vandalized and set on fire the one leading the violent mob was a white neo Nazi. Neo-Nazis have set up fake Twitter accounts to advocate for violence. And we see that Richard Spencer, who used to be a vocal Trump support and seen as extreme right, has all of a sudden jumped ship to team Biden. Get out of the echo chamber. Break out of the bubble. Talk to non-violent people on the other side. There are a lot more of them than you think. And there are a lot more Richard Spencers than you think as well.
    Here is Rand who was there and could feel the crowd, he says he would have been hurt or killed if the police hadn't come:

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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    They just don't understand that the sides have already been chosen, and they're still holding out hope for a kum-ba-ya moment where everyone whips out a joint and holds hands and topples the state with hugs. I believed that back in 2008.
    Yup. We can still wake people up that already had 1 foot out the door or speak with people that have long been apolitical but have decided enough is enough due to the craziness of the times, but you can't rationalize with mobs like this. It will never happen, it's not supposed to happen by design. My naive former self believed this, and recent events have been more than enough to be a wake up call. Some people just want to watch the world burn and that's all this is about.

    These people are not self-aware rational thinkers, they are minions, in some cases literally MKultra'd, for well funded elites that are sending them out as their personal human shields to do their bidding for them so they do not have to have their own blood spilled to enact their doctrines. You cannot have a conversation or talk sense with people that have been twisted into this false state of humanity.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Choosing sides?

    Leftist RPF'ers think choosing a side makes you a shill for the two party system.

    Leftist RPF'ers want you to pretend that there aren't communists in the streets calling for cultural revolution, setting businesses on fire, placing guillotines in public places, beating 71 year olds into the hospital, shooting into cars with families inside.

    I should start naming these leftist RPF'ers in every related post. That would be fun.

    Meh...I'll start now. @TheCount @PAF

    Don't worry, there are more but for now...Enjoy~

    Whew... feeling any better?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Choosing sides?


    Leftist RPF'ers want you to pretend that there aren't communists in the streets calling for cultural revolution, setting businesses on fire, placing guillotines in public places, beating 71 year olds into the hospital, shooting into cars with families inside.

    Don't worry, there are more but for now...Enjoy~
    The mob prolly don't even know who Rand Paul is, they just got paid to assault him. They also prolly don't even know what a convention is.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    $#@! these violent thugs!



    This is a time for choosing sides.
    Rand had his back.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Rand had his back.
    I was going to say that.

    Most politicians cower, worrying only about themselves, and seem to treat security like dumb brutes. Rand was concerned about others as all hell was breaking loose. To me, that says more about his character than any flowery rhetoric delivered from the safety of a podium.

    Grace under pressure!

    Rand Paul 2024!
    Last edited by RJB; 08-28-2020 at 08:41 AM.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    $#@! these violent thugs!



    This is a time for choosing sides.
    Amen.

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