BLM are destroying Kenosha, Wisc Over a Suspect Who Had a Warrant and crimes

[AngryCanadian]

Really need the context. Are these all high school students? Kids and adults? Comments claiming chick in pinkish pants was his sister. Was he protecting his sister? I'd expect any brother to respond to an attack on his little sister.

And also how do we know if its Klye? i find it bit ironic how the left in America are ignoring that one of the person that Kyle killed was a pedo and child sex abuser with a minor.

[AngryCanadian]

Mr. Rosenbaum may have been on to something. I can think of no better quotation to sum up the year 2020 than, "Shoot me n-----."

Well he was a pedo and child abuser which it seems MSM are calling him a victim and hero. While ignoring his criminal record of sexual crimes with a minor. I find sad that a pedo with a criminal record like Rosenbaum was allowed to walk in a Riot and protest?

[phill4paul]

A couple of lawyers break down Wisconsin law. Just looking this Barnes guy up, he is definitely legit and has represented some big name people so this isn't a random Youtuber. It would *seem* that making a murder case against this kid would be very difficult given the letter of the law. Wisconsin has very broad self defense laws where the prosecution has to prove that you were aggressive vs the kid having to prove self defense.

This kid probably is an idiot but these guys break down all of the things the media has talked about like crossing state lines (which didn't happen), the fact that he was potentially possessing a weapon illegally (self defense still applies). They do a very fair breakdown. I just don't see how he is convicted of murder given their explanation.

The weapons charge is the only thing they legitimately have a case on given the known facts.

And even that charge, according to Wisconsin law, may not pass muster given that it is vague regarding this issue.

[69360]

Possibly some bad optics for Kyle. This is supposedly him punching a girl from behind. Based, it seems, on his red, white and blue Crocs. This just surfaced and I have not been able to find any confirmation or any back story to the altercation.

So a teenage kid got into a parking lot fight. Didn't we all? I know I did.

[69360]

A couple of lawyers break down Wisconsin law. Just looking this Barnes guy up, he is definitely legit and has represented some big name people so this isn't a random Youtuber. It would *seem* that making a murder case against this kid would be very difficult given the letter of the law. Wisconsin has very broad self defense laws where the prosecution has to prove that you were aggressive vs the kid having to prove self defense.

This kid probably is an idiot but these guys break down all of the things the media has talked about like crossing state lines (which didn't happen), the fact that he was potentially possessing a weapon illegally (self defense still applies). They do a very fair breakdown. I just don't see how he is convicted of murder given their explanation.

The weapons charge is the only thing they legitimately have a case on given the known facts.

The weapons charge is crap. They can't charge him as an adult for being a juvenile in possession of a weapon. Also a 17 year old can legally carry a long gun. If they couldn't how would kids go hunting?

[phill4paul]

So a teenage kid got into a parking lot fight. Didn't we all? I know I did.

Yeah, but I never sucker punched a woman. I'm not condemning him, From what I understand he did it to protect his sister. And in truth you can see that he is the first to begin to walk away.

[Krugminator2]

The weapons charge is crap. They can't charge him as an adult for being a juvenile in possession of a weapon. Also a 17 year old can legally carry a long gun. If they couldn't how would kids go hunting?

I am inclined to agree and that is what the video says. Plus there is the whole constitutional issue. The Framers probably intended for people as young as 17 to be able to provide for defense.

The only point they are making is that is actually a debatable point and the bigger issue is even if he carried illegally it doesn't preclude him from using self defense as a lot of people are asserting.

[Valli6]

Yeah, but I never sucker punched a woman. I'm not condemning him, From what I understand he did it to protect his sister. And in truth you can see that he is the first to begin to walk away.

BUT - is that woman an adult? as most BLM/antifa are? Harassing and attacking minors? And how old were the guys who came over to beat him for hitting a "bitch"? We already know this an antifa tactic - female antifa abusing males because they know they are unlikely to hit them back... but Kyle is just a "child".
The guy talking in the video laughs and mentions that she had already hit him.

[Krugminator2]

So a teenage kid got into a parking lot fight. Didn't we all? I know I did.

I am going to stab and say this is kid isn't an innocent genius. Patrolling the streets armed is asking for problems and I am fine saying his parent or parents are idiots but that doesn't mean he can't use force if left wing thugs threaten him.

[Valli6]

I am going to stab and say this is kid isn't an innocent genius. Patrolling the streets armed is asking for problems and I am fine saying his parent or parents are idiots but that doesn't mean he can't use force if left wing thugs threaten him.

He wasn't patrolling the streets. He was just guarding a car lot from rioters trying to torch it..

[AngryCanadian]

The least from Snopes yet someone has to explain why did Jacob taken his kids in the car while the mother or woman called the police on him?
Source

[Brian4Liberty]

A couple of lawyers break down Wisconsin law. Just looking this Barnes guy up, he is definitely legit and has represented some big name people so this isn't a random Youtuber. It would *seem* that making a murder case against this kid would be very difficult given the letter of the law. Wisconsin has very broad self defense laws where the prosecution has to prove that you were aggressive vs the kid having to prove self defense.

This kid probably is an idiot but these guys break down all of the things the media has talked about like crossing state lines (which didn't happen), the fact that he was potentially possessing a weapon illegally (self defense still applies). They do a very fair breakdown. I just don't see how he is convicted of murder given their explanation.

The weapons charge is the only thing they legitimately have a case on given the known facts.

At 22:30, there is a good discussion about BLM and the left's tactics in which cases they promote and propagandize. It has been obvious for a long time that they like cases that are very murky and ambiguous, or are outright lies. They want division. A clear cut case of police killing an innocent person is not the kind of story they like.

[Swordsmyth]

And even that charge, according to Wisconsin law, may not pass muster given that it is vague regarding this issue.

Actually the law specifically only applies to short barreled guns and hunting.

[Swordsmyth]

Really need the context. Are these all high school students? Kids and adults? Comments claiming chick in pinkish pants was his sister. Was he protecting his sister? I'd expect any brother to respond to an attack on his little sister.

That's what I read, the one girl was attacking another girl and he was stopping the attack.

[Swordsmyth]

The Wisconsin law purported to outlaw possession of the rifle by a minor has a clause which people are overlooking:

http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/stat...tatutes/948/60

(3)(c)
This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593.

942.28 is about short barrelled guns, 29.305 and 29.593 are about hunting
Kyle did nothing wrong.

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[Mach]

Well he was a pedo and child abuser which it seems MSM are calling him a victim and hero. While ignoring his criminal record of sexual crimes with a minor. I find sad that a pedo with a criminal record like Rosenbaum was allowed to walk in a Riot and protest?

Nothing really in these I haven't seen except for some arrests and conviction records.... Rosenbaum did 10 years in prison.

[69360]

Yeah, but I never sucker punched a woman. I'm not condemning him, From what I understand he did it to protect his sister. And in truth you can see that he is the first to begin to walk away.

I would have at 17 to protect my sister with no hesitation.

[69360]

I am going to stab and say this is kid isn't an innocent genius. Patrolling the streets armed is asking for problems and I am fine saying his parent or parents are idiots but that doesn't mean he can't use force if left wing thugs threaten him.

I thought that at first too. Then it came out that he was asked to help protect the car lot by the owner. As soon as I saw that, I concluded that this kid did nothing wrong.

[Valli6]

Looks like they cut off a piece of Grosskreutz's ass or something, to graft over that gaping hole.

[Valli6]

(As mentioned in the video above )

First video below, definitely looks like Kyle running with a fire extinguisher, but I think the guy putting out the dumpster fire in the 2nd video is someone else. This move definitely pissed off the mob, though.
Looks like Rosenbaum is one of the guys pushing the burning dumpster in the 2nd video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdtyzBb6FTE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9csfZQku9Bw

[enhanced_deficit]

Biden team seems to be suudenly surprised by Trump's rising poll numbers, without any proof they cannot claim that GOP-Adelson wing is secretly fanning unest.
BLM donor/social justice activist who reportedly secretly met Trump son-in-law in Colorado few days ago is actually very mainstream social justice activist unlike extremist wing of BLM.
But narratives are shaping up quickly in media and by Biden camp.

BIDEN: TRUMP FANS FLAMES!

NBC TV/Chuck Todd: Does City Vioelnce strengthen Trump's hand

[Mach]

One of Kyle's lawyers, Pierce, was on Tucker Carlson tonight.



Kyles is brought up at 22:25

[Valli6]

Here's a few different angles of Kyle Rittenhouse's run after the first shooting, etc. - part is (allegedly) what Gaige Grosskreutz was live-streaming as he was chasing Kyle - I haven't seen this footage anywhere else. The guy who posted this video thinks he's been shadow banned - this video only has 17 views right now and no comments. I found it in a roundabout way (not by searching youtube).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXsD...ture=emb_title

[navy-vet]

I heard that some protestors were going into residential areas of one of the Cities that are afire and getting residents to look out of their windows and then trying to injure them by hitting them in the eyes with lasers. I don't recall now where I heard it at and have been trying to figure it out. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

[Swordsmyth]

I heard that some protestors were going into residential areas of one of the Cities that are afire and getting residents to look out of their windows and then trying to injure them by hitting them in the eyes with lasers. I don't recall now where I heard it at and have been trying to figure it out. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

I heard that as well.

[Anti Federalist]

VERNON HILLS, ILLINOIS / August 28, 2020 / Pierce Bainbridge is honored to represent 17-year old Antioch, Illinois resident Kyle Rittenhouse, who has suddenly found himself at the center of a national firestorm and charged with murder after defending himself from a relentless, vicious and potentially deadly mob attack in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

On August 25th, 2020, Kenosha spiraled into chaos following the Jacob Blake shooting. The Kenosha Mayor and Wisconsin Governor failed to provide a basic degree of law and order to protect the citizens and community buildings in Kenosha. The city burned as mobs destroyed buildings and property, and looters stole whatever they wanted. Rioters defaced storefronts, the courthouse, and many other public and private locations across the city.

After Kyle finished his work that day as a community lifeguard in Kenosha, he wanted to help clean up some of the damage, so he and a friend went to the local public high school to remove graffiti by rioters. Later in the day, they received information about a call for help from a local business owner, whose downtown Kenosha auto dealership was largely destroyed by mob violence. The business owner needed help to protect what he had left of his life’s work, including two nearby mechanic’s shops. Kyle and a friend armed themselves with rifles due to the deadly violence gripping Kenosha and many other American cities, and headed to the business premises. The weapons were in Wisconsin and never crossed state lines.

Upon arrival, Kyle and others stood guard at the mechanic’s shop across from the auto dealership to prevent further damage or destruction. Later that night, substantially after the city’s 8:00 p.m. curfew expired without consequence, the police finally started to attempt to disperse a group of rioters. In doing so, they maneuvered a mass of individuals down the street towards the auto shops. Kyle and others on the premises were verbally threatened and taunted multiple times as the rioters passed by, but Kyle never reacted. His intent was not to incite violence, but simply to deter property damage and use his training to provide first aid to injured community members.

After the crowd passed the premises and Kyle believed the threat of further destruction had passed, he became increasingly concerned with the injured protestors and bystanders congregating at a nearby gas station with no immediate access to medical assistance or help from law enforcement. Kyle headed in that direction with a first aid kit. He sought out injured persons, rendered aid, and tried to guide people to others who could assist to the extent he could do so amid the chaos. By the final time Kyle returned to 2 the gas station and confirmed there were no more injured individuals who needed assistance, police had advanced their formation and blocked what would have been his path back to the mechanic’s shop. Kyle then complied with the police instructions not to go back there. Kyle returned to the gas station until he learned of a need to help protect the second mechanic’s shop further down the street where property destruction was imminent with no police were nearby.

As Kyle proceeded towards the second mechanic’s shop, he was accosted by multiple rioters who recognized that he had been attempting to protect a business the mob wanted to destroy. This outraged the rioters and created a mob now determined to hurt Kyle. They began chasing him down. Kyle attempted to get away, but he could not do so quickly enough. Upon the sound of a gunshot behind him, Kyle turned and was immediately faced with an attacker lunging towards him and reaching for his rifle. He reacted instantaneously and justifiably with his weapon to protect himself, firing and striking the attacker.

Kyle stopped to ensure care for the wounded attacker but faced a growing mob gesturing towards him. He realized he needed to flee for his safety and his survival. Another attacker struck Kyle from behind as he fled down the street. Kyle turned as the mob pressed in on him and he fell to the ground. One attacker kicked Kyle on the ground while he was on the ground. Yet another bashed him over the head with a skateboard. Several rioters tried to disarm Kyle. In fear for his life and concerned the crowd would either continue to shoot at him or even use his own weapon against him, Kyle had no choice but to fire multiple rounds towards his immediate attackers, striking two, including one armed attacker. The rest of the mob began to disperse upon hearing the additional gunshots.

Kyle got up and continued down the street in the direction of police with his hands in the air. He attempted to contact multiple police officers, but they were more concerned with the wounded attackers. The police did not take Kyle into custody at that time, but instead they indicated he should keep moving. He fully cooperated, both then and later that night when he turned himself in to the police in his hometown, Antioch, Illinois.

Kyle did nothing wrong. He exercised his God-given, Constitutional, common law and statutory law right to self-defense.

However, in a reactionary rush to appease the divisive, destructive forces currently roiling this country, prosecutors in Kenosha did not engage in any meaningful analysis of the facts, or any in-depth review of available video footage (some of which shows that a critical state’s witness was not even at the area where the shots were fired); this was not a serious investigation. Rather, after learning Kyle may have had conservative political viewpoints, they immediately saw him as a convenient target who they could use as a scapegoat to distract from the Jacob Blake shooting and the government’s abject failure to ensure basic law and order to citizens. Within 24-36 hours, he was charged with multiple homicide counts.

Kyle now has the best legal representation in the country. With help from Nicholas Sandmann attorney L. Lin Wood, Pierce Bainbridge and multiple top-tier criminal defense lawyers in Wisconsin immediately offered representation to Kyle.

Today, his legal team was successful in working with the public defender to obtain a several-week continuance of his extradition hearing to September 25th. This at least partially slows down the rush to judgment by a government and media that is determined to assassinate his character and destroy his life.

Kyle, his family, the team at Pierce Bainbridge and his other lawyers intend to fight these charges every step of the way, take the case to trial and win an acquittal on the grounds of self-defense before a jury of his peers.

The legal fees and other costs of Kyle’s defense will be provided through donations to #FightBack Foundation Inc., a Texas 501(c)(4) foundation created by John Pierce and Lin Wood to protect lawabiding American citizens whose rights are being trampled on by state and local governments that are more concerned with appeasing mobs than protecting those rights.

Pierce Bainbridge founder John Pierce praised Kyle’s strength and resilience. “A 17-year old child should not have to take up arms in America to protect life and property. That is the job of state and local governments. However, those governments have failed, and law-abiding citizens have no choice but to protect their own communities as their forefathers did at Lexington and Concord in 1775. Kyle is not a racist or a white supremacist. He is a brave, patriotic, compassionate law-abiding American who loves his country and his community. He did nothing wrong. He defended himself, which is a fundamental right of all Americans given by God and protected by law. He is now in the crosshairs of institutional forces that are much more powerful than him. But he will stand up to them and fight not only for himself, but for all Americans and their beloved Constitution. We will never leave his side until he is victorious in that fight.”

Further updates will be provided as the investigation and legal proceedings unfold.

#FightBack

[Pauls' Revere]

So, according to the police 102 out of 175 people were NOT from Kenosha.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kenosha...cid=uxbndlbing

Kenosha Police Say Outsiders Account for Most Arrests After Jacob Blake Shooting
Of 175 charged in week of protests, 102 were from outside the city, including 17-year-old accused of killing two protesters

Then, these "outsiders" sue the City of Kenosha.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...cid=uxbndlbing

(Reuters) - Four people arrested for curfew violations while protesting the shooting of a Black man by a white policeman in Kenosha, Wisconsin sued the city and county governments on Tuesday, claiming they were denied free speech rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

The plaintiffs argue that more than 150 people protesting the shooting have been taken into custody while pro-police demonstrators have been allowed to freely take to the streets, according to the lawsuit filed in federal court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin.

So, this leaves the citizens of Kenosha to pay for any settlements granted.

Its kinda a brilliant business model for a political organization. Travel around the country from city to city protesting. Get arrested, find an ACLU Pro Bono lawyer and sue the city you happen to be in. If you lose no big loss. But if you win, you can pocket some change and also help fund the organization for more protesting?

Am I off base?

[jct74]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-is-a-Champion

[Anti Federalist]

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1308593954057646080