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    Ben Swann - Has Sweden Beaten C0VlD? 1 Death for Entire Month of August, No Lockdown, No Masks

    August 17, 2020



    Has Sweden Beaten C0VlD?

    Only 1 Death in the Country for the Entire Month of August, and yet, No Lockdowns, No Economic Shutdowns and No Masks. We give you details that other media will only ignore.
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    Yet our government officials tell us not to use Sweden as an example.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Yet our government officials tell us not to use Sweden as an example.
    But Bernie and AOC say that Sweden is the model for their version of Democratic Socialism?


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    I wouldn't go round holding up Sweeden as a bunch of good guys for beating the Covid. They essentially did the same thing as NY. Killed off a big percentage of their elderly and then pat themselves on the back for reaching herd immunity. It's instructive, but it could have been done alot better.
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    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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    I guess the dead horse can't die again.

    Not the best Top 10 to be on:

    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Depends on how it looks a year from now, and if Covid keeps mutating every season.
    In New Zealand:
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    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
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    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
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    Business licenses aren't even a thing nor are capital gains taxes
    Constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

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    56.86 deaths with no mitigation and America is @ 52.52 with some mitigation. If we had none we would have passed 170k deaths months ago. The swedish population is most likely way more healthier then US pop. Our food parymid is not based on science. We are culling people by telling them to eat more carbs and less saturated fat.

    Also Sweden's death rate is worst then countries around it. Imagine if Ebola actually reached US shores and infected a city ...we would have millions dead under a guy like Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFTFNJ View Post
    56.86 deaths with no mitigation and America is @ 52.52 with some mitigation. If we had none we would have passed 170k deaths months ago. The swedish population is most likely way more healthier then US pop. Our food parymid is not based on science. We are culling people by telling them to eat more carbs and less saturated fat.

    Also Sweden's death rate is worst then countries around it. Imagine if Ebola actually reached US shores and infected a city ...we would have millions dead under a guy like Trump.
    It's not Trumps job. That falls to the Guv'nors.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AFTFNJ View Post
    56.86 deaths with no mitigation and America is @ 52.52 with some mitigation. If we had none we would have passed 170k deaths months ago. The swedish population is most likely way more healthier then US pop. Our food parymid is not based on science. We are culling people by telling them to eat more carbs and less saturated fat.

    Also Sweden's death rate is worst then countries around it. Imagine if Ebola actually reached US shores and infected a city ...we would have millions dead under a guy like Trump.
    It isn't over in the other countries, whereas Sweden seems to have beaten it. Japan was held up by the left as an example of a country that did a great job, yet now they are having escalating cases. It will stick around until they reach herd immunity, and their shutdowns with all the negative economic impact will have had little or no effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It isn't over in the other countries, whereas Sweden seems to have beaten it. Japan was held up by the left as an example of a country that did a great job, yet now they are having escalating cases. It will stick around until they reach herd immunity, and their shutdowns with all the negative economic impact will have had little or no effect.
    Japan has 13x the population of Sweden and 1/5th of the deaths. Japan also is on a sharp decline of new cases after a peak 3 weeks ago, and they didn't need herd immunity to do it. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

    Unless we go years without a vaccine it is unlikely that herd immunity ends up being a good "investment".
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    Japan has 13x the population of Sweden and 1/5th of the deaths. Japan also is on a sharp decline of new cases after a peak 3 weeks ago, and they didn't need herd immunity to do it. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

    Unless we go years without a vaccine it is unlikely that herd immunity ends up being a good "investment".
    Anti-Fa shilling for vaccination? why doesn't that surprise me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Anti-Fa shilling for vaccination? why doesn't that surprise me?
    Vaccines have saved countless lives and will save even more if one ever comes out for COVID-19. Yes there are often side effects, but the net positives as they are used today outweigh the negatives. Also, you really don't like that I'm against fascism, huh? You've called me that about 5 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    Vaccines have saved countless lives and will save even more if one ever comes out for COVID-19. Yes there are often side effects, but the net positives as they are used today outweigh the negatives. Also, you really don't like that I'm against fascism, huh? You've called me that about 5 times.
    Antifa is fascist. Think of it like "The Patriot Act".
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Antifa is fascist. Think of it like "The Patriot Act".
    Well, my stance on fascism is anti, so call me whatever you would like, but it may be helpful to be accurate about it.

    Antifa doesn't seem to be very monolithic - probably a bunch of people involved with that one, but they do tend to like some form of socialism. I don't think many are closely aligned with Mussolini.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    Vaccines have saved countless lives and will save even more if one ever comes out for COVID-19. Yes there are often side effects, but the net positives as they are used today outweigh the negatives. Also, you really don't like that I'm against fascism, huh? You've called me that about 5 times.
    This vaccine above all others should be shunned, it is being rushed and the track record of similar vaccines for similar viruses is frightening.

    I call you Anti-Fa because you shill for them and their fascist agenda.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This vaccine above all others should be shunned, it is being rushed and the track record of similar vaccines for similar viruses is frightening.

    I call you Anti-Fa because you shill for them and their fascist agenda.
    So then, you are coming around, and understand that Trump/Admin gave hoards of WELFARE to the fascist MIC [Medical Industrial Complex], and there is Level 5 reason to be concerned - if one values individual rights, sound money, and the right to travel freely.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    So then, you are coming around, and understand that Trump/Admin gave hoards of WELFARE to the fascist MIC [Medical Industrial Complex], and there is Level 5 reason to be concerned - if one values individual rights, sound money, and the right to travel freely.
    I know what Trump did, he did what he had to to avoid being crucified in the media and then have Congress do exactly the same things overriding his veto.
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    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I know what Trump did, he did what he had to to avoid being crucified in the media and then have Congress do exactly the same things overriding his veto.

    Oh. So you are not coming around.

    I guess can attribute it to I just had a cold one and got a temporary brain freeze. Sorry about that.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This vaccine above all others should be shunned, it is being rushed and the track record of similar vaccines for similar viruses is frightening.
    I much prefer the track record of vaccines versus the track record of no vaccines. People are dying by the thousands every day so there's reason to rush them. It's not like they aren't being tested.
    I call you Anti-Fa because you shill for them and their fascist agenda.
    I shill for liberty to protest, something fascists don't like very much.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    I much prefer the track record of vaccines versus the track record of no vaccines. People are dying by the thousands every day so there's reason to rush them. It's not like they aren't being tested.
    Propaganda garbage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    I shill for liberty to protest, something fascists don't like very much.
    If you call arson and murder protest then I am a proud fascist, commie.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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