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    Donald Trump donated twice to Kamala Harris campaigns from 2011 - 2014

    https://sputniknews.com/us/202008121...nia-campaigns/
    it appears Donald Trump and his eldest daughter Ivanka had earlier donated to Harris in her campaigns for California district attorney and attorney general from 2011 until 2014.

    Both financially contributed to Harris as private citizens, according to California state records, with the donations amounting to a total of $8,000 - a fact that was eagerly picked up on by netizens.

    The first contribution from Donald Trump was for $5,000 in September 2011 and the second amounted to $1,000 and was dated February 2013. Ivanka, a business executive at the time, donated $2,000 to Harris in June 2014.



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    Why is anybody shocked by that? He once donated to Hillary Clinton too.

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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Once wasn’t enough so he donated twice.
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    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Trump plays the field. I am neither excusing, praising, nor lambasting him. I am just stating a fact. New Yorkers are used to paying off the mob, whether the legit or illegit mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Trump plays the field. I am neither excusing, praising, nor lambasting him. I am just stating a fact. New Yorkers are used to paying off the mob, whether the legit or illegit mob.
    I'm curious. How many major republican candidates did Donald Trump donate to prior to becoming one? Any idea? I'm willing to bet the number is zero. Prove me wrong.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I'm curious. How many major republican candidates did Donald Trump donate to prior to becoming one? Any idea? I'm willing to bet the number is zero. Prove me wrong.
    I have no idea, but I am guessing if it helped his business, he would buy off- er, I mean, donate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    I have no idea, but I am guessing if it helped his business, he would buy off- er, I mean, donate.
    Was Trump in the private prison business? Because that's the only benefit to an AG candidate. Trump was a progressive. Trump IS a progressive. There is more evidence to support that contention than there is to go against it. Trump pushed the whole "Build ma wall" narrative because he did the market research to show that's what would sucker endear himself to republican voters. Seriously, one reason I might vote for Trump is that his record on criminal justice reform is more progressive than that of Biden or Harris. (Hate me for that later). This whole political system is a joke! Just say the right thing, join the right party, and the average vote forgets who you really are and ignores and/or excuses all facts that might show them who you really are.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Was Trump in the private prison business? Because that's the only benefit to an AG candidate. Trump was a progressive. Trump IS a progressive. There is more evidence to support that contention than there is to go against it. Trump pushed the whole "Build ma wall" narrative because he did the market research to show that's what would sucker endear himself to republican voters. Seriously, one reason I might vote for Trump is that his record on criminal justice reform is more progressive than that of Biden or Harris. (Hate me for that later). This whole political system is a joke! Just say the right thing, join the right party, and the average vote forgets who you really are and ignores and/or excuses all facts that might show them who you really are.
    I have read he is really going after human trafficking and pedophiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I have read he is really going after human trafficking and pedophiles.
    Which is why he was such good friends with Jeffry Epstein?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    It says there 'sputnik' , could be Russian attack on MAGA's conservative credentials. Will wait till this can be confirmed by more reliable US MSM sources like CNN, NYT.

    That said, I completely support everyones right to identify as they choose.

    Trump: 'I probably identify more as Democrat'
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    Trump to host fundraiser for Progressive Socialist Democrat Cory Booker

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    It's actually very simple. Instead of running as a Democrat, he is running GOP, so he must attack the Democrats. Some of his kids didn't get the memo though.







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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Was Trump in the private prison business? Because that's the only benefit to an AG candidate. Trump was a progressive. Trump IS a progressive. There is more evidence to support that contention than there is to go against it. Trump pushed the whole "Build ma wall" narrative because he did the market research to show that's what would sucker endear himself to republican voters. Seriously, one reason I might vote for Trump is that his record on criminal justice reform is more progressive than that of Biden or Harris. (Hate me for that later). This whole political system is a joke! Just say the right thing, join the right party, and the average vote forgets who you really are and ignores and/or excuses all facts that might show them who you really are.
    Are you try to argue or educate me? Because I believe that my posts above we're as equally cynical about the politics as your post, just less wordy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I'm curious. How many major republican candidates did Donald Trump donate to prior to becoming one? Any idea? I'm willing to bet the number is zero. Prove me wrong.
    https://ballotpedia.org/History_of_D...ical_donations

    HIGHLIGHTS

    From 1989 to 2015, Donald Trump has made $1,845,290 worth of political donations. Republicans received $1,150,540, and Democrats received $694,750.
    Before 2011, Trump donated more money to Democrats than Republicans.
    Between 2011 and 2015, Trump contributed $8,500 to Democrats and $630,150 to Republicans.
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    On 11 August 2020, only 3 months before the presidential elections, Joe Biden finally announces his running mate – Kamala Harris – in the dementia election.
    At the time of the November elections Donald Trump is 74 and Joe Biden is even older with 77…

    It must have been quite a challenge for the Democrook-Republicons to find somebody in the USA more despised than Donald Trump, Mike Pence and Joe Biden.

    Lawyer Kamala Harris is of mixed Indian-black race, married to a Jew, and has been supported by the Trumpies (Donald and his Jewish daughter Ivanka) that donated thousands to her in 2011, 2013 and 2014: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...la-harris.html



    Kamala Harris got her start in politics through an affair with Willie Brown: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...d-willie-brown
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    Donald Trump, another puppet controlled by the international elite: https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/vie...=1038&start=60

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    This whole political system is a joke! Just say the right thing, join the right party, and the average vote forgets who you really are and ignores and/or excuses all facts that might show them who you really are.
    Nothing new there.

    I intend to support Trump because he has directly affected, in a positive way, my ability to work, make a living, keep my car, my guns, my woodstove, my income, my light bulbs...among other things.

    Biden/Harris are openly hostile to all of these things and have openly called for banning or restricting all of them.
    There are only two things we should fight for.
    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Are you try to argue or educate me? Because I believe that my posts above we're as equally cynical about the politics as your post, just less wordy.
    Sorry. I'll make it short. I can think of little business benefit to paying off an AG unless you're looking to do something illegal or into private prisons.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Which is why he was such good friends with Jeffry Epstein?
    He banned him from his clubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://ballotpedia.org/History_of_D...ical_donations

    HIGHLIGHTS

    From 1989 to 2015, Donald Trump has made $1,845,290 worth of political donations. Republicans received $1,150,540, and Democrats received $694,750.
    Before 2011, Trump donated more money to Democrats than Republicans.
    Between 2011 and 2015, Trump contributed $8,500 to Democrats and $630,150 to Republicans.
    Thanks for pointing that out! Hmmm......the Trump presidential timeline shows that in 2011 a poll showed Trump would be the preferred Republican candidate for president.

    https://www.tvguide.com/news/donald-...aign-timeline/

    The people called...the orange man answered. The first part of tha answer was to change who he was donating to. And @RJB, this is just what I expected. Money wasn't spread around evenly. It was strategecially used to tell a new story. In American anyone can "re-invent himself" if he has enough money and/or enough connections.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    He banned him from his clubs.
    No evidence of that. He kicked Epbstein out of one of his clubs ONCE and that is because Ebpstein was hitting on the teenage daughter of one of Trump's friends. After that Trump said Epbstein was a "great guy" who "likes them young." Trump is on the Epbstein flight logs though there is no evidence he actually went to orgy island.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nothing new there.

    I intend to support Trump because he has directly affected, in a positive way, my ability to work, make a living, keep my car, my guns, my woodstove, my income, my light bulbs...among other things.

    Biden/Harris are openly hostile to all of these things and have openly called for banning or restricting all of them.
    For the first time ever I'm leaning Trump. This Kamala Harris pick has pissed me off that much. I'll still most likely vote third party. Trump has a lock on my state anyway and I like being able to honestly "thumb my nose" at the people who vote for the major party candidates. (I know you live in a swing state so....not you. If I lived where you lived.....well I'm glad I don't live where you live.)
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://ballotpedia.org/History_of_D...ical_donations

    HIGHLIGHTS

    From 1989 to 2015, Donald Trump has made $1,845,290 worth of political donations. Republicans received $1,150,540, and Democrats received $694,750.
    Before 2011, Trump donated more money to Democrats than Republicans.
    Between 2011 and 2015, Trump contributed $8,500 to Democrats and $630,150 to Republicans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    No evidence of that. He kicked Epbstein out of one of his clubs ONCE and that is because Ebpstein was hitting on the teenage daughter of one of Trump's friends. After that Trump said Epbstein was a "great guy" who "likes them young." Trump is on the Epbstein flight logs though there is no evidence he actually went to orgy island.

    Not doubting you as I know you are well researched. But can you provide links to back that up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Which is why he was such good friends with Jeffry Epstein?
    Awww....I got a neg rep from @spudea for telling the truth. Only....he didn't have the guts to say why. Neg reps require you to say something. Don't be a coward chump.

    And for @Danke



    Oh, and who closed the investigation into Jeffry Ebpstein's "suicide?" Why it was Donald Trump's AG Bob Barr. Obviously it's because of 4D chess right?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Thanks for pointing that out! Hmmm......the Trump presidential timeline shows that in 2011 a poll showed Trump would be the preferred Republican candidate for president.

    https://www.tvguide.com/news/donald-...aign-timeline/

    The people called...the orange man answered. The first part of tha answer was to change who he was donating to. And @RJB, this is just what I expected. Money wasn't spread around evenly. It was strategecially used to tell a new story. In American anyone can "re-invent himself" if he has enough money and/or enough connections.
    I don't disagree with this. If I didn't make it clear above, politicians are famous for spreading money around to get what they want. Ron Paul was an extremely rare exception. That is why this is the only forum that I join that was named after a politician, other than satire forums.
    And yes, I would like to hear Trump answer why he donated to Harris.
    Last edited by RJB; 08-12-2020 at 11:47 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Not doubting you as I know you are well researched. But can you provide links to back that up?
    Sure. Trump calling Epstein a "terrific guy."

    https://www.jacksonville.com/nationw...nship-with-him

    (Sorry. I said "great guy" when I should ahve said "terrific guy.")

    Trump on Epstein flight log.

    https://www.insider.com/donald-trump...nsealed-2019-8

    Oh, and Trump said Epstein was never a member of Mar A Lago. He "banned" a non-member?

    https://www.miamiherald.com/article244689497.html

    From the article (you have to register for free to read it):

    Another club member explained that Trump “kicked Epstein out after Epstein harassed the daughter of a member. The way this person described it, such an act could irreparably harm the Trump brand, leaving Donald no choice but to remove Epstein,” said Sarah Blaskey, a Miami Herald investigative reporter who co-wrote the book with Miami Herald journalists Nicholas Nehamas and Jay Weaver and Caitlin Ostroff of the Wall Street Journal. “The Trump Organization did not respond to our requests for comment on this or other matters.”

    A footnote in the book says the authors were shown the club’s registry from more than a decade earlier and that Epstein in fact had been a member until October 2007.


    So Epstein's membership to one club (not all his clubs) was revoked after he hit on the daughter of another member. Very classy Epstein!

    However Epstein was not banned after "recruiting" a teenage girl who worked at Mar A Lago!

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...-trump-1456221

    Lesson learned to prospective pedophiles. Hit on the help, not on the members' children!

    So...there ya go. @spudea are you reading this too? Neg rep me all you want but I don't make stuff up.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    For the first time ever I'm leaning Trump. This Kamala Harris pick has pissed me off that much. I'll still most likely vote third party. Trump has a lock on my state anyway and I like being able to honestly "thumb my nose" at the people who vote for the major party candidates. (I know you live in a swing state so....not you. If I lived where you lived.....well I'm glad I don't live where you live.)
    I like NH.

    Really? What is it about the Harris pick, in particular, that has you angry? I mean, any of the people he was considering would have been just as bad, no?

    Yeah, if I lived in a solid lock blue or red state, I'd write in Ron Paul again...but as you noted NH is a swing state and between us and CD2 in Maine, we could possibly decide this.

    Is that Trump vote then "principled"...well, I say it is...if saving your ass and self preservation are valid principles.
    There are only two things we should fight for.
    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    I don't disagree with this. If I didn't make it clear above, politicians are famous for spreading money around to get what they want. Ron Paul was an extremely rare exception. That is why I this is the only forum that I join that was named after a politician, other than satire forums.
    And yes, I would like to hear Trump answer why he donated to Harris.
    Fair enough. The odd thing is that Trump donated to Harris during the time he was doing his "GOP Total Money Makeover." Maybe he likes out of control prosecutors. (He did first nominate Jeff Sessions for AG). Maybe he was looking to pick up where Willie Brown left off as Kamala Harris' political (and bedroom) sugar daddy. Who knows?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  32. #28
    It's a big club and Swordsmyth ain't in it.
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever..... just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post


    There are only two things we should fight for.
    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I like NH.

    Really? What is it about the Harris pick, in particular, that has you angry? I mean, any of the people he was considering would have been just as bad, no?

    Yeah, if I lived in a solid lock blue or red state, I'd write in Ron Paul again...but as you noted NH is a swing state and between us and CD2 in Maine, we could possibly decide this.

    Is that Trump vote then "principled"...well, I say it is...if saving your ass and self preservation are valid principles.
    Ummm....slavery? Kamala Harris is the only pick I know of that oversaw an office which argued for prison overcrowding in the name of prison slave labor. Sorry...but as a black man I have a big problem with slavery. (Same reason I would vomit at a Susan Rice nomination. Her support of Hillary foreign policy opened the door for slavery in Libya). Kamala Harris was also a hypocritical drug warrior. She suppressed evidence that might have freed innocent prisonsers. Looking at the other possible candidates, Stacy Abrams, Keisha Lance Bottoms (hottie!), Michelle Obama, non of them have the horrible track record on mass incarceration that Kamala Harris' has. Hell, as bad as she is, at least Maxine Waters voted against the 1993 Clinton crime bill. Kamala Harris basically enforced it. (I looked up which Congressional Black Caucus members voted against the 1993 Clinton Crime Bill shortly after John Lewis died. I was relieved to find out he voted against it as well.) I know gun control is your top issue (or one of them) and any democratic candidate will be bad on that. Same for abortion. But very few candidates are as bad on the biggest issue that blacks say they are upset about which is the prison industrial complex. Look at it another way. Say if a republican nominee picked Michael Bloomberg to be VP after he ran as a republican and lost badly because of gun control?

    My favorite Tulsi Gabbard video ever.




    Edit: A little pencil necked geek put the smackdown on Kamala Harris.

    Last edited by jmdrake; 08-12-2020 at 12:04 PM.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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