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Yes, there are degrees of liberty. More liberty is better than less. A 1% tax is better than a 90% tax. That doesn't mean a 1% tax is justified, it just means that I would prefer to live in a more free society than a less free society.
If you would prefer to live in a less free society, then by all means, continue believing that a 1% tax is as bad as a 90% tax.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Matt you should not celebrate this.
They want to abolish the 2A
Trump lowered taxes, slashed regulations and installed conservative judges that will help protect 2a in local municipalities and has significantly increased liberty in this country on the whole - compared to before - but ESPECIALLY compared to if Hillary won and installed anti-2a judges, increased regulations and increased taxes - started more wars - forced national lockdowns during COVID, etc, etc..
It is really a no-brainer when it comes to government harm reduction which direction we need to be going right now. That was NEVER the case when we had Romney/McCain/Bush running as Republicans, which is why Ron Paul always referred to them as the lesser of the evils. Trump isn't evil, he is a good person who isn't perfect but would undoubtedly be a lot more inline with our views here if he had the ability to do so while maintaining power and taking out the deep state. But he can only do so much within the system we currently have, with our media. It's called strategy - a strategy for government harm reduction.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Okay. Let's say we NEVER had an income tax but had super high tariff and excise taxes. Then someone like Trump, without repealing any of the excise taxes or tariffs, introduced a "tiny" 1% income tax while floating the idea of raising it to 50% and NEVER taking a step to cut taxes even though he promised to do that when he ran for president. Because...that's what Trump did. He infringed on the 2nd amendment in a whole freaking new way! By executive order! Nobody has EVER banned a gun accessory by executive order before Trump. Obama rescinded Reagan era anti gun executive orders on guns in National Parks and on AMTRAK. Guess who has already taken inspiration from Trump's idea? Kamala Harris! And today she took one step closer to being POTUS. Console yourself that Biden/Harris won't win. They might not. But I GUARANTEE you the GOP won't keep the presidency forever. And look at what Trump has floated. Red flag laws. Assault weapons bans. (Before and after being president.) So no. This isn't a "degree of liberty." Liberty is when you are moving in the RIGHT direction. This is a degree of tyranny.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
I would like to "bear" my firearm on me without having to pay $120 every five years to take a class and then pay ANOTHER $100 to my sheriff to receive my "permit".
I would like to "bear" ANY firearm on me at any time without infringement.
Oh, and I would like to own full automatic firearms.
The RIGHT of the people to KEEP and BEAR arms shall NOT be infringed.
- ML
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Pfizer Macht Frei!
Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.
Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!
Short Income Tax Video
The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes
The Federalist Papers, No. 15:
Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.
Not to mention the complete contradiction in that one sentence alone. Had it not been for knowing the posters habits, I would not have been able to make heads or tails out of it.
I will go with last part: "he is the least of all possible goods."
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Pfizer Macht Frei!
Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.
Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!
Short Income Tax Video
The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes
The Federalist Papers, No. 15:
Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.
So it costs you $40 a year to legally own guns? Wow. Totalitarian. And having to take a basic gun safety course sounds just like Nazi Germany. It costs $150 a year to legally drive a car plus insurance.
Should anyone be able to legally own as much ammonium nitrate or other bomb making material as they want? How about nuclear weapons? There will always be a line on what people can legally own. Fully automatic weapons seems like a reasonable place to draw it.
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Pfizer Macht Frei!
Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.
Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!
Short Income Tax Video
The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes
The Federalist Papers, No. 15:
Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.
That's not what well regulated means and the reason given doesn't alter the prohibition on infringement.
And the obvious line to draw is not at automatic weapons, that is military grade weaponry that the militia (composed of all free men) are intended to have access to.
If we are going to draw a line it should be at WMDs which are strategic weapons and not arms as known to the founding fathers.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
To confirm, occupational licensure, even though it's sole purpose is to limit competition and is a drain on the economy, is just great. That isn't an infringement. Also airline unions are wonderful even though they bankrupt almost airline. Those are not tyranny.
But paying three dollars a month for a gun license is statist bootlicking?
Yes, this what I have always determined the line to be as well.
All arms available to the individual infantryman, should equally be available to every citizen. That would include select fire rifles, SAWs, grenades, anti tank and anti aircraft weapons.
This would include crew served weapons as well, assuming funding was available...tanks, artillery, ships, you name it.
NBC weapons of mass destruction should not only be aggressively prohibited for citizens, but governments as well.
We are currently living through the nightmare that can be caused by government playing fast and loose with viral pathogens.
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
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