libertarian Conservative Ammon Bundy Defends BLack Lives Matter, Defunds the Police.

[AngryCanadian]

Another supposed libertarian Conservative jumps in the BLM defends the BLM and supports Defunds the Police. Also supports open border for immigration.

[Swordsmyth]

He's a useful idiot.

[jon4liberty]

Link?

[Anti Globalist]

If true, this is disappointing.

[John-G]

He's a useful idiot.

Oh look, the old kettle is calling the shinny silverware black. The man makes a very nuanced explanation why he agrees with BLM's call to defund the police, all the while making sure to mention that it would be in an overall plan to reduce the size of govt. Also stating that the police as opposed to antifa would be the ones taking our liberties so defunding them is the right thing to do and you get the usual unthinking crowd who see the world in black and white, up or down, with or against us mentality coming out against him. Again, you don't have to agree with every thing every libertarian says but this idea that he is a pretend libertarian for supporting a call to defund the police is crazy.

Btw, don't you guys make the excuse that you didn't have a chance to listen to the whole video. It is only 2 mins long and most of his point were laid out in a minute. The joke in on the OP for suggesting that he is a supposed libertarian. You guys wouldn't know what a libertarian is if it carried a NAP placard while dressed up in a black and yellow suit. Sadly, these are the sort of people who dominate this site, people just subservient enough to follow unwritten forum guidelines while pretending to be liberty minded. This happens while many of the real thinkers and OGs are banned. Yes I am salty because at this rate you "liberty" people will in no time inherit this forum.

God help us all

[r3volution 3.0]

Oh look, the old kettle is calling the shinny silverware black. The man makes a very nuanced explanation why he agrees with BLM's call to defund the police, all the while making sure to mention that it would be in an overall plan to reduce the size of govt. Also stating that the police as opposed to antifa would be the ones taking our liberties so defunding them is the right thing to do and you get the usual unthinking crowd who see the world in black and white, up or down, with or against us mentality coming out against him. Again, you don't have to agree with every thing every libertarian says but this idea that he is a pretend libertarian for supporting a call to defund the police is crazy.

Btw, don't you guys make the excuse that you didn't have a chance to listen to the whole video. It is only 2 mins long and most of his point were laid out in a minute. The joke in on the OP for suggesting that he is a supposed libertarian. You guys wouldn't know what a libertarian is if it carried a NAP placard while dressed up in a black and yellow suit. Sadly, these are the sort of people who dominate this site, people just subservient enough to follow unwritten forum guidelines while pretending to be liberty minded. This happens while many of the real thinkers and OGs are banned. Yes I am salty because at this rate you "liberty" people will in no time inherit this forum.

Whoa, whoa, let's not get crazy.

Red = good, Blue = bad

That's all the nuance we can handle these days.

God help us all

Now you're getting the hang of the reign.

Lament, for that great and glorious day, on which the plain folks of the land reach their heart's desire, has come.

Amencken

[misterx]

He's a useful idiot.

This

[enhanced_deficit]

This should not be too surprising, he was of Trump school of thought if not mistaken:

Donald Trump supports Black Lives Matter

He's a useful idiot.

Why?

[misterx]

This should not be too surprising, he was of Trump school of thought if not mistaken:

Donald Trump supports Black Lives Matter




Why?

Do you really think you're going to turn anyone against Trump?

[Sammy]

Do you really think you're going to turn anyone against Trump?

He & many other paid shills here (not going to name them) want Biden to be President.

[John-G]

Do you really think you're going to turn anyone against Trump?

BLM is a Marxist group, Trump supports BLM. This means ......... fill in the dots.

[dannno]

BLM is a Marxist group, Trump supports BLM. This means ......... fill in the dots.

Trump supports black lives and peaceful protests, he does not support the organization BLM.

[Ender]

He's a useful idiot.

Obviously you know nothing about Ammon Bundy.

[CCTelander]

Obviously you know nothing about Ammon Bundy.

FIFY

[Ender]

@CCTelander

FIFY

LOL

[CCTelander]

@CCTelander



LOL

LOL! + rep

[Swordsmyth]

Obviously you know nothing about Ammon Bundy.

I know anyone who supports abolishing police at this time and open borders is a useful idiot.

[John-G]

I know anyone who supports abolishing police at this time and open borders is a useful idiot.

Defunding the police is NOT the same thing as abolishing the police. I guess that is the goal but he has not yet asked for the police to be abolished.

[Swordsmyth]

Defunding the police is NOT the same thing as abolishing the police. I guess that is the goal but he has not yet asked for the police to be abolished.

It's exactly the same and BLM has specifically said so.

[John-G]

Another supposed libertarian Conservative jumps in the BLM defends the BLM and supports Defunds the Police. Also supports open border for immigration.

This is him talking about immigration, here I disagree with him but I have to say that it is not unusual for libertarians to come out in favour of open borders. Its like abortion, you can be libertarian and still take either side of the argument.

[kahless]

RPF Statists are going to state. Good for Bundy if he supports defunding your beloved police.

[misterx]

RPF Statists are going to state. Good for Bundy if he supports defunding your beloved police.

Seattle moves to disband police department, replace it with “gender-affirming, anti-racist” Department of Community Safety

https://disrn.com/news/seattle-moves...mmunity-safety

[jmdrake]

Seattle moves to disband police department, replace it with “gender-affirming, anti-racist” Department of Community Safety

https://disrn.com/news/seattle-moves...mmunity-safety

You act like that's the ONLY model for defunding the police.

Watch this:



That's from this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...er-is-On-Point

[misterx]

You act like that's the ONLY model for defunding the police.

Watch this:



That's from this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...er-is-On-Point

I don't live in a fantasy land where the libertarian model for defunding police will be implemented. This is the only model that the liberals will implement. I called it months ago, while everybody else was going "herp derp libs are so st0pId this is going to backfire on them". Liberals are smart, they always have a plan. If they are pushing something you can bet it's going to go in their interest.

[kahless]

I don't live in a fantasy land where the libertarian model for defunding police will be implemented.

The liberal dreamers reach for their dreams while the cause here is total surrender mode and acceptance of them moving their plan forward as demonstrated in your response.

This is the only model that the liberals will implement. I called it months ago, while everybody else was going "herp derp libs are so st0pId this is going to backfire on them". Liberals are smart, they always have a plan. If they are pushing something you can bet it's going to go in their interest.

The morons on the right have the loudest voice and believe that. Unfortunately the thinkers and doers are not being heard and/or have surrendered.

The Conservative media and Fox News plays a large role in what I described. This must change and it is up to us here to make sure it does.

[LibertyEagle]

RPF Statists are going to state. Good for Bundy if he supports defunding your beloved police.

WHAT? I'd much rather have LOCAL police, than federal police, or worse. Yes, they need to be demilitarized, etc. But, I darn sure still want local police.

[phill4paul]

WHAT? I'd much rather have LOCAL police, than federal police, or worse. Yes, they need to be demilitarized, etc. But, I darn sure still want local police.

Police are bureaucrats with weapons. All that is needed is an Sheriff and an armed citizenry deputized to maintain order.

[kahless]

Police are bureaucrats with weapons. All that is needed is an Sheriff and an armed citizenry deputized to maintain order.

I used to think this way about leaving it to elected Sheriff's. Certainly a step better but the problems still exist. For example I am under the jurisdiction of Sheriff, Town Police and State Police. The Sheriff and the State Police are covering for police criminals in two towns since they see themselves as part of the same blue family or should I say part of the same cult.

[LibertyEagle]

Police are bureaucrats with weapons. All that is needed is an Sheriff and an armed citizenry deputized to maintain order.

I'm not against moving towards that, Phill. But, I am not for just getting rid of the police force w/out any planning.

[kahless]

WHAT? I'd much rather have LOCAL police, than federal police, or worse. Yes, they need to be demilitarized, etc. But, I darn sure still want local police.

Then you and your neighbours should band together to hire a private security firm in a free market of competing companies. No competing business will allow the nonsense and abuse we see with the police monopolies. If the firm you hire fails to protect your private property then you hire another or hold them liable for ignoring your contract. A company is not going allow abusive police and risk their business to lawsuits. All our current problems solved with this solution.

Some others like to have a choice and not hire a firm to protect their property and their life. They would be free to defend themselves.

This is what a free society is like but it seems many here are continually moving further and further away from free market solutions in favour of keeping statist monopolies with horrendous records.