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    Floyd Autopsy

    Floyd Autopsy


    Not sure the radical left will like this, the Floyd Autopsy result released today:
    Well well. It looks like the Officers up for the Murder of George Floyd will be found NOT guilty; A bit long, but this is the full Autopsy report;
    FACTS...NO EMOTION
    The George Floyd autopsy report is
    The report is 20 pages long, and it is detailed.

    The autopsy was performed by a board-certified forensic pathologist and reviewed by a second board-certified forensic pathologist prior to release.
    The autopsy was thorough, the report fair, and unbiased.
    The first thing that jumps out when reading the Floyd autopsy report:​




    "No life-threatening injuries were identified".



    That is a direct quote.​



    There were no facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae noted.
    Most people have never heard the word Petechiae.
    Petechiae is a pinhead size red or purple spot on the surface of the skin which is the result of tiny ruptures in blood vessels resulting in hemorrhage just below the skin.
    Petechiae are normal and expected when air and blood flow are cut off at the neck by any mechanism.
    The eyes are the best place see petechiae.
    If you cut off blood circulation, blood pressure spikes up which breaks blood vessels, and that causes petechiae.
    The pathologist that did the autopsy dissected George Floyd's neck muscles layer by layer.
    The dissection did not find any contusion or hemorrhage in any of the muscles.​



    If Derek Chauvin's knee on George Floyd's neck cut off blood flow, the pressure would have ruptured blood vessels, which would have caused bleeding into the surrounding tissue.
    The bleeding would have been massive and visible to the naked eye.
    There was no bleeding into neck tissue.
    If Chauvin's knee cut off Floyd's air supply, the pressure would have broken the esophageal cartilage. That is 100% certain.
    Place your thumb and index on your esophagus. Press backward into your neck.
    When you get as far back as you can comfortably push, lock your fingers, pull them out and look how big your esophagus actually is.
    You don't collapse the esophagus to the point of cutting off air flow without breaking the cartilage.
    In a forensic autopsy, the pathologist examines the esophagus in place, then removes the entire esophagus and cuts the entire length open and examines the inside.
    Floyd's neck and esophagus did not have any trauma.​




    The thyroid cartilage and hyoid bone were both intact and unbroken.
    The cervical spinal column was palpably stable and free of hemorrhage.​




    The anterior muscles of neck and laryngeal structures were trauma free.​



    That means Chauvin's knee did not cause any trauma to any part off the neck.​



    There was no scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain trauma noted.
    There were no chest wall soft tissue injuries, vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries.​




    That means Floyd's internal organs did not show any trauma.
    Floyd did have a single rib fracture from CPR. That is normal.
    The pathologist rolled Floyd's body over and incision the posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks looking for deep tissue trauma.
    There was no trauma present.




    The pathologist did observe cutaneous injuries to the forehead, face, upper lip, the mucosal injuries of the lips, cutaneous injuries to the shoulders, hands, elbows, and legs.
    Cutaneous injuries are confined to the skin. Some of the injuries were healing and happened before Floyd's arrest.
    The rest were probably the result of scraping contact with pavement during the arrest.
    There was no trauma below the skin.
    The pathologist noted and documented patterned contusions and abrasions to the wrists consistent with handcuffs.​




    If you watched the video, you can hear Floyd saying he can't breathe.​



    If you can't breathe, you can't say you can't breathe.
    Why is that is so hard to understand.​




    The autopsy established that Floyd had a history of hypertension, hypertensive heart disease, severe arteriosclerotic heart disease, and an enlarged heart.
    Floyd had a left pelvic tumor which did not contribute to his death. Floyd tested positive for COVID 19.​



    Toxicology puts the nail in the coffin of Ellison's murder charge.
    The individual that called 911 said that Floyd was extremely drunk and not in control of himself.
    On one video, Floyd's legs buckled and he fell beside a squad car.​



    That shows a loss of control.Floyd tested positive for Fentanyl 11 ng/mL.
    Blood concentrations of 7 ng/ml have been associated with fatalities where multi drugs were used.
    Floyd was a multiple drug user.
    Floyd tested positive for Norfentanyl at 5.6 ng/mL a metabolite of Fentanyl.​



    NOTE: The body metabolizes Fentanyl into Norfentanyl.
    Floyd tested positive for 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL. 4-ANPP is an intermediate in the synthesis of fentanyl and related opioids and is often found as an impurity in fentanyl preparations.​



    A urine drug screen confirmation 86 ng/mL of free morphine.
    (NOTE: The body metabolizes opioids like Fentanyl into morphine.)​



    Floyd tested positive for 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL; Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL.
    That means he smoked weed.​



    Floyd tested positive for Caffeine.
    Apparently Floyd ate No-Doz by the handful and slugged down 5-hour Energy Drinks, which are caffeine based.
    Caffeine may seem harmless, but it is a stimulant that increases heart rate and spikes blood pressure up.
    People with hypertension should limit their caffeine intake.
    Floyd apparently did not limit his caffeine intake.​



    Floyd had 19 ng/mL of Methamphetamine in his system.
    Methamphetamine can cause confusion, hallucinations, convulsions, and circulatory collapse.​



    A man with high blood pressure and heart disease should not be getting high on Meth.​



    There is one more section in the autopsy report that precludes murder charges:​



    The microscopic examination.​


    The pathologist doing the autopsy takes multiple tissue samples from each organ in the body.​


    The samples are sent into one end of Histology and come out the other end as slides that a pathologist can examine at the cellular level under a microscope.​



    Seven slides of George Floyd's liver showed marked congestion.​


    Eight slides of his kidney showed marked congestion.
    Nine slides of Floyd's adrenal glands showed marked congestion.​



    Nine slides of his spleen showed marked congestion.
    Marked used in this context means evident and clearly noticeable.​




    The most important slides, the slides with the big picture, concern Floyd's brain.​



    The pathologist that did the autopsy took tissue sections from Floyd's hippocampus, cerebellum, cerebral cortex, and midbrain.​


    The microscopic architecture of Floyd's brain was normal.
    The slides did not show any sign of hypoxic - ischemia, or reactive, neoplastic, or inflammatory changes.​



    Hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy is the result of a lack of oxygen to the brain. The lack of oxygen quickly damages brain cells.​


    Floyd's brain cells did not show any hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy. None.​


    Hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy is present in all strangulations.​


    That blows up the narrative that Derek Chauvin choked George Floyd to death, on video for all the world to see.
    The slides of Floyd's brain disprove what people think they saw in the video of Floyd's arrest.​



    The video looks bad, but Chauvin's actions did not kill Floyd.​














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    George Floyd Autopsy Shows No Trauma

    The preliminary results of the autopsy on George Floyd, who dies Monday after an encounter with the Minneapolis Police Department, showed that his death was not from strangulation or asphyxiation, which would have indicated that the neck restraint did not cause the death of Floyd.

    “Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” said the complaint from the Hennepin County Attorney.

    https://www.lawofficer.com/george-floyd-autopsy/

    George Floyd Autopsy Finds No Evidence of Asphyxia or Strangulation, Family Plans Second Examination

    The preliminary autopsy results of George Floyd found no evidence that he died of asphyxiation or strangulation, according to the criminal complaint filed against former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who is accused of kneeling on Floyd’s neck for almost nine minutes.

    Floyd’s family has now hired forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden to perform a second, independent autopsy, Baden confirmed to Fox News.
    Baden, who formerly was New York City’s chief medical examiner, said he was set to travel to Minneapolis on Saturday and announce his findings next week.
    Chauvin, 44, was arrested and charged Friday with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

    The case, which grew out of an arrest over suspicion of Floyd trying to buy merchandise with a counterfeit $20 bill, became a national flashpoint after video of Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck circulated on social media.

    His death has sparked protests across the United States this week, which in many cases have turned into riots.

    According to the criminal complaint against Chauvin, Floyd fell to the ground when police sought to get him into a squad car.

    “The officers made several attempts to get Mr. Floyd in the backseat of squad 320 from the driver’s side,” the complaint said. “Mr. Floyd did not voluntarily get in the car and struggled with the officers by intentionally falling down, saying he was not going in the car, and refusing to stand still.”

    “While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe,” the complaint added, saying that Chauvin “went to the passenger side and tried to get Mr. Floyd into the car from that side” with help from other officers.

    Chauvin “pulled Mr. Floyd out of the passenger side of the squad car at 8:19:38 p.m. and Mr. Floyd went to the ground face down and still handcuffed,” it said.

    While other officers held his back and legs, the complaint said Chauvin “placed his left knee in the area of Mr. Floyd’s head and neck.”

    “Mr. Floyd said, ‘I can’t ‘breathe’ multiple times and repeatedly said, ‘Mama’ and ‘please’ as well,” the complaint said, later adding: “The officers said, ‘You are talking fine.'”

    After several minutes, when officers could not find a pulse on Floyd, Chauvin “removed his knee from Mr. Floyd’s neck,” according to the complaint.
    The complaint noted: “The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (ME) conducted Mr. Floyd’s autopsy on May 26 , 2020. The full report of the ME is pending but the ME has made the following preliminary findings.
    “The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.”
    The complaint then cited other possible reasons Floyd died.

    “Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” it said.

    “The defendant had his knee on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total. Two minutes and 53 seconds of this was after Mr. Floyd was non-responsive. Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous.”

    Ben Crump and S. Lee Merritt, attorneys for Floyd’s family,
    note: The family HAVE to have something OTHER than he died of over dose, because if that is why Floyd died, they CAN'T SUE the city for millions of dollars - Jimw


    said a second autopsy was needed, recalling the 2014 death of Eric Garner, who was put in a chokehold by New York City police and later died. Baden performed an autopsy in the Garner case.

    “We saw in the Eric Garner case, and so many other cases where they have people who work with the city workers come up with things that are such an illusion — he had asthma, he had a heart condition — all these things that are irrelevant when they were living, breathing, walking, talking, just fine until the police accosted them,” Crump said at a news conference, according to ABC News.

    Crump framed the case as an example of what he claimed is a national climate of racism.

    “We have been dealing with the pandemic of racism and discrimination for far too long,” he said.

    NEWSGeorge Floyd Autopsy Finds No Evidence of Asphyxia or Strangulation, Family Plans Second Examination














    By Jack Davis
    Published May 30, 2020 at 6:24am

    The preliminary autopsy results of George Floyd found no evidence that he died of asphyxiation or strangulation, according to the criminal complaint filed against former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who is accused of kneeling on Floyd’s neck for almost nine minutes.
    Floyd’s family has now hired forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden to perform a second, independent autopsy, Baden confirmed to Fox News.
    Baden, who formerly was New York City’s chief medical examiner, said he was set to travel to Minneapolis on Saturday and announce his findings next week.
    Chauvin, 44, was arrested and charged Friday with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.
    The case, which grew out of an arrest over suspicion of Floyd trying to buy merchandise with a counterfeit $20 bill, became a national flashpoint after video of Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck circulated on social media.
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    Derek Chauvin, former Minneapolis police officer, has been charged with 3rd-degree murder and manslaughter in the killing of George Floyd. pic.twitter.com/Xg6fvFBeEn
    — UberFacts (@UberFacts) May 29, 2020

    His death has sparked protests across the United States this week, which in many cases have turned into riots.
    According to the criminal complaint against Chauvin, Floyd fell to the ground when police sought to get him into a squad car.
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    “The officers made several attempts to get Mr. Floyd in the backseat of squad 320 from the driver’s side,” the complaint said. “Mr. Floyd did not voluntarily get in the car and struggled with the officers by intentionally falling down, saying he was not going in the car, and refusing to stand still.”
    “While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe,” the complaint added, saying that Chauvin “went to the passenger side and tried to get Mr. Floyd into the car from that side” with help from other officers.
    Chauvin “pulled Mr. Floyd out of the passenger side of the squad car at 8:19:38 p.m. and Mr. Floyd went to the ground face down and still handcuffed,” it said.
    While other officers held his back and legs, the complaint said Chauvin “placed his left knee in the area of Mr. Floyd’s head and neck.”
    “Mr. Floyd said, ‘I can’t ‘breathe’ multiple times and repeatedly said, ‘Mama’ and ‘please’ as well,” the complaint said, later adding: “The officers said, ‘You are talking fine.'”
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    After several minutes, when officers could not find a pulse on Floyd, Chauvin “removed his knee from Mr. Floyd’s neck,” according to the complaint.
    The complaint noted: “The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (ME) conducted Mr. Floyd’s autopsy on May 26 , 2020. The full report of the ME is pending but the ME has made the following preliminary findings.
    “The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.”
    The complaint then cited other possible reasons Floyd died.
    “Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” it said.
    “The defendant had his knee on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total. Two minutes and 53 seconds of this was after Mr. Floyd was non-responsive. Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous.”
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    Ben Crump and S. Lee Merritt, attorneys for Floyd’s family, said a second autopsy was needed, recalling the 2014 death of Eric Garner, who was put in a chokehold by New York City police and later died. Baden performed an autopsy in the Garner case.

    “We saw in the Eric Garner case, and so many other cases where they have people who work with the city workers come up with things that are such an illusion — he had asthma, he had a heart condition — all these things that are irrelevant when they were living, breathing, walking, talking, just fine until the police accosted them,” Crump said at a news conference, according to ABC News.

    Crump framed the case as an example of what he claimed is a national climate of racism.

    “We have been dealing with the pandemic of racism and discrimination for far too long,” he said.

    “It is a pandemic, a national pandemic, we cannot keep looking at this regionally, this is affecting all African-Americans, this a state of emergency.

    “If we don’t address this in the next month or two we will see another senseless, unjustifiable killing of an African-American at the hands by people who are police or pretend to be police,” Crump added.

    https://www.westernjournal.com/geor...trangulation-family-plans-second-examination/




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    I'm confused though - are either of these Baden's report? And if not, then where is the report from the autopsy done by Dr Michael Baden? Has it been released to the public? In other words, has Baden's autopsy report simply confirmed the first one? Because if so, that has not been made clear anywhere.

    And if the autopsy proves Chauvin's actions didn't cause Floyds death - just what has he been arrested for?
    Last edited by Valli6; 07-31-2020 at 01:49 PM.

  5. #4
    Damn. I guess that poor cop was just in the wrong place at the wrong time ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Damn. I guess that poor cop was just in the wrong place at the wrong time ...

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    Leftists are not going to take this information and accept it. They will probably riot even harder and more aggressively.
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    I have thought that since the beginning. Drug user with pre-existing conditions. That is primary cause of death. The cop held him down too long though, it wasn't reasonable. I think the cop should be found guilty of manslaughter.



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