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    FCC Approves Amazon's Internet-From-Space Kuiper Constellation of 3,236 Satellites

    https://science.slashdot.org/story/2...236-satellites

    The Federal Communications Commission has approved Amazon's plans for its ambitious Kuiper constellation, which entails sending 3,236 satellites into orbit to beam internet coverage down to Earth. Amazon claims that Kuiper will "provide broadband services to unserved and underserved consumers, businesses in the United States, and global customers by employing advanced satellite and earth station technologies." The Verge reports:

    The company plans to send the satellites to three different altitudes, and it claims it needs just 578 satellites in orbit to begin service, according to an FCC document announcing the approval. Amazon has not announced which launch provider it plans to use to fly the satellites into orbit yet. While Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos also owns the rocket company Blue Origin, the launch provider will have to compete to launch the satellites along with other companies.

    There are few caveats to Amazon's FCC approval. The company must launch half of the constellation by 2026 to retain its FCC license, and then the remaining satellites by 2029. Amazon also must submit to the FCC a finalized plan for how it will mitigate orbital debris, since the design of its satellites aren't finalized yet. Amazon claims it will take its satellites out of orbit within 355 days, but the FCC argues the company didn't "present specific information concerning some required elements" for its debris plan. A big concern of a constellation of this size is that the influx of satellites will lead to more collisions in space, creating pieces of debris that could threaten other satellites. Amazon claims that Kuiper will "provide broadband services to unserved and underserved consumers, businesses in the United States, and global customers by employing advanced satellite and earth station technologies," according to the FCC's approval document.
    Yeah, and ALL internet goes thru ONE company. What could possibly go wrong?
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    Light Pollution from satellites is already wreaking havoc for astronomers!

    This kind of thing wreaks havoc for astronomers and astro-photographers. The un-natural light these things give off obliterates the otherwise-visible light given off by natural objects like meteors.

    Astroboffins peeved as SpaceX's Starlink sats block meteor spotting – and could make us miss a killer asteroid
    Sixty of them are bad enough, let alone the planned 12,000
    Thu 28 Nov 2019 // 07:02 UTC

    Skywatchers in Spain recording meteors being transformed into brilliant streaks of light by atmospheric compression are a bit miffed – as their view was rudely interrupted by a slew of Elon Musk’s Starlink satellites.

    Below is a short clip of what it looked like above La Palma, one of Spain’s Canary Islands last week. The meteor shower known as Alpha Monocerotids crisscrossed the sky, though it becomes hard to spot them once the satellites come flooding in.

    SpaceX's table-sized Starlink birds, which sport reflective solar panels, are closer and brighter as they zip across the camera’s line of sight like machine gun bullets.

    https://twitter.com/PTreuthardt/stat...95415024037890
    Denis Vida, a geophysics PhD student at the University of Western Ontario, Canada, who wrote the code to generate the footage above captured from one of the Global Meteor Network’s cameras, said the obstruction happens every day.

    “Note that this was not a one time occurrence,” he told The Register. “We see this every day before dawn with about half the cameras in our network. During that time we effectively lose about half our field of view because of this..

    Musk and his SpaceX team sent 60 Starlink units into orbit to beam down broadband connectivity in May this year. A month later, the International Astronomical Union, issued a statement warning that the dazzling satellites could hamper research and disturb wildlife.

    “[We’re] concerned about these satellite constellations,” the union previously said. “The organisation, in general, embraces the principle of a dark and radio-quiet sky as not only essential to advancing our understanding of the universe of which we are a part, but also as a resource for all humanity and for the protection of nocturnal wildlife. “We do not yet understand the impact of thousands of these visible satellites scattered across the night sky and despite their good intentions, these satellite constellations may threaten both.”...

    more https://www.theregister.com/2019/11/...k_photobombing

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    Yes, as technology keeps rising, more and more corporations will be partnering with the gov, and sharing, even more..... you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.


    Corporations with many billions of dollars spying on the public, what could go wrong?
    FJB

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    Of course they did, $#@!ing whores.
    "The Patriarch"

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    As Amazon moves to drone deliveries it only makes sense they would want to control a worldwide network. I do wonder as those are low orbit sats how good of cameras they have on them.
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    Total Technocracy.

    Companies and Govt (thats called FASCISM folks!) will rule the people, and they DO NOT have your best interests at heart! Its a giant $#@!ing hamster wheel, keeping you so miserable while they live lavish lives at your expense.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    1996 telco reform forced the telco monopolies to share lines with competitors (In exchange for the monopolies to get into long distance along with local calling, basically why ma bell was broken up in the first place). All these hungry little companies sprang up doing innovative things like letting people call all of an area code as a local call, no big deal to the monopolies at first.

    Then thousands of companies started getting people connected to the Internet. There were directories of ISPs printed in the 90s, actually thousands across the country, getting everyone online. Small ISPs and startup telco companies started getting bigger. The monopolies lobbied hard and the government folded, rolled back the telco reform and gave monopolies their monopoly powers back. The big telcos took those internet customers, thousands of ISPs closed down.

    It's in the government's best interest to only have a few internet providers, easier to install backdoors to all internet traffic. Various laws require realtime backdoor ability. Other times the monopolies simply reroute all american traffic over the canadian border and back so suddenly the feds can legally capture all traffic as it's international.

    The question isn't what service will be spying on you, they all do by default. The most you can control is how much you pay for the privilege of being data raped.

    To that end if spacex or amazon can give internet anywhere in the world at a better rate, then why not. Big telco sure doesn't care about the end user experience as there is no longer any competition to keep them improving things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    1996 telco reform forced the telco monopolies to share lines with competitors (In exchange for the monopolies to get into long distance along with local calling, basically why ma bell was broken up in the first place). All these hungry little companies sprang up doing innovative things like letting people call all of an area code as a local call, no big deal to the monopolies at first.

    Then thousands of companies started getting people connected to the Internet. There were directories of ISPs printed in the 90s, actually thousands across the country, getting everyone online. Small ISPs and startup telco companies started getting bigger. The monopolies lobbied hard and the government folded, rolled back the telco reform and gave monopolies their monopoly powers back. The big telcos took those internet customers, thousands of ISPs closed down.

    It's in the government's best interest to only have a few internet providers, easier to install backdoors to all internet traffic. Various laws require realtime backdoor ability. Other times the monopolies simply reroute all american traffic over the canadian border and back so suddenly the feds can legally capture all traffic as it's international.

    The question isn't what service will be spying on you, they all do by default. The most you can control is how much you pay for the privilege of being data raped.

    To that end if spacex or amazon can give internet anywhere in the world at a better rate, then why not. Big telco sure doesn't care about the end user experience as there is no longer any competition to keep them improving things.


    In other words, they are all fighting to spy on us, equally.
    FJB



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    In other words, they are all fighting to spy on us, equally.
    With some new nationwide providers (spacex and amazon) they at least can potentially fight to spy on us cheaper.

    Of course I can only imagine what sort of cameras and other goodies are going to be on all of those low orbit satellites. Realtime surveillance of every amazon package in route? Video of every tesla at all times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    With some new nationwide providers (spacex and amazon) they at least can potentially fight to spy on us cheaper.

    Of course I can only imagine what sort of cameras and other goodies are going to be on all of those low orbit satellites. Realtime surveillance of every amazon package in route? Video of every tesla at all times?
    That's a good point, Bezos will have your name, address, makes and models of all your cars, and can probably lock a satellite on your vehicles and track you wherever you go, automatically, and all kinds of other personal stuff..... the corporations are getting technology to the point where they are going to be just like little side govs, but they are going to be private, and won't have to succumb to all of that Constitutional and Rights stuff.



    I can see the future, robots cleaning homes, and who knows what else, being the eyes and ears of corporations living in our homes.

    FJB



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