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    Norwegian flag mistaken for Confederate flag removed

    I bet the Injun is the one who complained.

    ST. JOHNS, Mich. (AP) — Owners of a Michigan bed and breakfast have removed a Norwegian flag outside of their business after being accused of promoting racism from people who think that it is a Confederate flag.
    Kjersten and Greg Offenecker, owners of The Nordic Pineapple, hung the flag opposite of the American flag after they moved into the Civil War-era mansion in 2018, the Lansing State Journal reported. They took both flags down last week.
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    The red flag, with a blue cross superimposed on a white cross, is a nod to Kjersten Offenbecker’s grandfather, who was born in Norway. The Norwegian flag has the same colors as the Confederate flag, but the patterns and symbols are different. The Confederate flag is red with a blue “X” containing white stars.




    The couple said they never would have thought anyone would mistake the Norwegian flag for something else.
    “I don’t see it because I grew up with the Norwegian Flag,” Kjersten Offenbecker said. “To me, they are two distinct flags.”
    Several community members have urged the couple to put the Norwegian flag back up, but the Offenbeckers say they won’t until they can figure out a way to make sure it is not mistaken for the the Confederate flag.
    The couple wrote in a July 20 post on The Nordic Pineapple’s Facebook page: “We love being members of the St Johns community and are heartbroken to have had to make this decision. Given the current cultural climate and the idea that people are judging us based on the misconception of the national Norwegian flag vs. the Confederate flag, this is what is best for our family and our Inn.”
    The couple, who has two Black children, said they are have done their best to help their children navigate racism in America and the aftermath of George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis.
    https://apnews.com/ed0d469d2b6d81f7f468a27ce429f74f





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    If you get those two confused, yer retarded.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    The couple, who has two Black children, said they are have done their best to help their children navigate racism in America and the aftermath of George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis.
    Squareheads...SMMFH
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  5. #4
    I can't wait till they see a Union Jack for the first time.

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  6. #5
    Colors red, white & blue soon to be banned.

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  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    If you get those two confused, yer retarded.
    Proof the education system has failed everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    If you get those two confused, yer retarded.
    It's a serious mistake to think that these people are "retarded" or in any way stupid. They're not. Their ostensible idiocy is merely camouflage intended to dupe other people into perceiving them as silly and/or harmless (rather than as extremely dangerous, which is what they actually are ...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Proof the education system has failed everyone.
    But it hasn't failed. At least, not for everyone. For the O'Briens of the left, the education system has been a smashing success.

    That system has proved to be a highly effective means of producing two kinds of people:

    (1) "useful idiots" whose minds and thinking have become so warped that they no longer possess the capacity to care about the truth[1], and

    (2) "O'Briens" who do all they can to create yet more "useful idiots" and who constantly test the limits of what other people will let them get away with ...

    This Norwegian flag vs. Confederate flag thing is a perfect example of limit-testing by the O'Briens. They know perfectly well how ignorantly "stupid" it is to confuse the Norwegian flag with the Confederate flag. Furthermore, I submit that they are not even actually "offended" by the actual Confederate flag at all (let alone by the Norwegian flag). Their pretended "outrage" over such things is simply a means of shaming others into complying with their arbitrary demands.

    The point is not to have some genuinely-felt insult assuaged or adequately redressed. The point is to find out just how daunted other people are at the prospect of defying the O'Briens and their useful idiots. The point is to make sure that other people are sufficiently terrified of the prospect of being labelled as "racists" (or whatever other "-ist" or "-phobe" words the O'Briens like to use) that they will "cave in" and abjectly submit to the whims and wishes of the O'Briens, no matter how "stupid" or ignorant those whims or wishes may be.

    In fact, the more egregiously and obviously "stupid" and ignorant the demands are, the better. If your demands are reasonable (or at least understandable), it's not much of a test of your power to get other people to go along with you (even if they don't really want to). If the folks in the OP article had put up a sign that said, "All nigggers are sub-human animals and should be lynched," and you managed to pressure and ostracize them into removing that sign, that wouldn't be nearly as useful as a measure of your power as it would be if you managed to pressure and ostracize them into doing some other thing on the basis of some "stupid" or ignorant reason (such as confusing the Norwegian and Confederate flags).

    That is why they make all these kinds of supposedly "stupid" and ignorant demands. It is not because they are "stupid" or ignorant. Far from it. It is because they are trying to find out just how much other people will let them get away with.

    And tragically, as the OP article demonstrates, other people are willing to let them get away with pretty much anything. (The Offeneckers really should be ashamed of themselves - but not for the reasons the O'Briens want them to be ...)



    [1] Note that lacking the capacity to care about the truth is not the same thing as lacking the capacity to recognize the truth. For example, the complainers in the OP article are perfectly capable of recognizing the truth that the Norwegian flag and the Confederate flag are entirely different things (in fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some or all of them knew it before they even complained). But they just don't care ... (consider this question: Upon being informed that the Norwegian flag is not the Confederate flag, is there any reason at all to expect that any of the complainers would express gratitude for the clarification, apologize for their ignorance, and then retract their complaints? I rather think not ...)
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  9. #8
    Maybe they were thinking of the July 22, 2017 right-wing extremists (Anders Breivik) killing 77 people? Nah...
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    This just goes to prove how sensitive some people are. At a quick glance they see a red and blue draped flag hanging and their mind immediately goes to racist.
    Seeing the flag waving in the wind there almost no way anyone can mistake it for a confederate flag.
    But hey, lets not use any thought process here, just shot Racist!!!! at the top of your lungs.

    I wonder when Norway will change their flag to comply with the masses? Anyone think that could never happen?

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  12. #10
    Liberals in America are beyond cucked.

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Maybe they were thinking of the July 22, 2017 right-wing extremists (Anders Breivik) killing 77 people? Nah...
    But it seems democrats or liberals in America have no problems with Islamic terrorists. Or jihadists. As they arent viewing them as a "threat" anymore.

  14. #12
    They should have just put up a few more.
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    Whoever made that mistake must be feeling really stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    It's a serious mistake to think that these people are "retarded" or in any way stupid. They're not. Their ostensible idiocy is merely camouflage intended to dupe other people into perceiving them as silly and/or harmless (rather than as extremely dangerous, which is what they actually are ...)



    But it hasn't failed. At least, not for everyone. For the O'Briens of the left, the education system has been a smashing success.

    That system has proved to be a highly effective means of producing two kinds of people:

    (1) "useful idiots" whose minds and thinking have become so warped that they no longer possess the capacity to care about the truth[1], and

    (2) "O'Briens" who do all they can to create yet more "useful idiots" and who constantly test the limits of what other people will let them get away with ...

    Good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    They should have just put up a few more.
    They should have added a Confederate flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They should have added a Confederate flag.
    I’m sure it won’t be long before the ol’ stars & stripes are in the crosshairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    I’m sure it won’t be long before the ol’ stars & stripes are in the crosshairs.
    That's always been the end goal.
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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    I’m sure it won’t be long before the ol’ stars & stripes are in the crosshairs.
    That flag is coming next.
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