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    Herman Cain Dead

    BREAKING

    Herman Cain has died.

    Will update if his condition changes.

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/he.../30/id/979733/
    Last edited by sparebulb; 07-30-2020 at 09:02 AM.



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    https://www.whio.com/news/trending/f...NYNSY3Q3VBALI/

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/...-hospitalized/
    As a cancer survivor, Cain, age 74, is considered at an increased risk for coronavirus, according to US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance.

    In 2006, Cain was given a 30% chance of survival from stage 4 colon cancer that had spread to his liver. He underwent chemotherapy and surgery to remove the cancer from his liver and was declared cancer free in 2007.
    I remember reading Herman Cain has a Masters in Computer Science - not at all an easy degree to get.

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    Herman Cain dies after contracting coronavirus

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    RIP.

    Afraid because of timing and CNN report of July 3rd, the circumstances could create another covid-19 related controversy.


    July 2, 2020 - According to a statement posted to his Twitter account, Cain is hospitalized "after he had developed symptoms serious enough that he required hospitalization." Earlier in the week he was informed that he had tested positive for the coronavirus. "Mr. Cain did not require a respirator, and he is awake and alert." Cain, as a co-chair of Black Voices for Trump, was one of the surrogates at Trump's June 20 rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
    https://www.cnn.com/2013/07/08/us/he...cts/index.html


    June 27, 2020
    Trump Campaign Removed Social-Distancing Stickers From Seats at Tulsa Rally

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...lsa-rally.html





    ETA:
    Tried to confirm that the NY Mag report was not fakenews, it was initially reported by WaPo apaprently that has history of fakenews also. But it appears it was not fakenews.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...154_story.html

    Workers removed thousands of social distancing stickers before Trump’s Tulsa rally, according to video and a person familiar with the set-up

    June 27, 2020
    In the hours before President Trump’s rally in Tulsa, his campaign directed the removal of thousands of “Do Not Sit Here, Please!” stickers from seats in the arena that were intended to establish social distance between rallygoers, according to video and photos obtained by The Washington Post and a person familiar with the event.
    The removal contradicted instructions from the management of the BOK Center, the 19,000-seat arena in downtown Tulsa where Trump held his rally on June 20. At the time, coronavirus cases were rising sharply in Tulsa County, and Trump faced intense criticism for convening a large crowd for an indoor political rally, his first such event since the start of the pandemic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvsizZ7cLFw

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    He also suffered from stage 4 colon cancer at some point, so his compromised body and immune system didn't exactly help him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    He also suffered from stage 4 colon cancer at some point, so his compromised body and immune system didn't exactly help him.
    That doesn't matter anymore--he died of Covid-19.
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    Reports of his death was actually circulating on the net days ago. Goes to show how "delayed" the official news of such things actually is.
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    Zero reports on whether he was taking hydroxychoroquine as a prophylaxis, or if he started taking it and zinc as soon as he had his first symptoms. If he had done that, the MSM would probably be reporting on it. It's possible they will wait a few days as he just died.

    Who knows what shape he was in. He was old and high-risk.
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    Exclamation Reuters:"Herman Cain, ex-presidential candidate who refused to wear mask, dies after COVID-19"

    There is a stark difference in tone between the Trump team's somewhat nuanced advisories to wear masks vs media narratives with high dose of fear:


    July 30, 2020 / 10:52 AM

    Herman Cain, ex-presidential candidate who refused to wear mask, dies after COVID-19 diagnosis

    (Reuters) - Herman Cain, a former Republican presidential candidate and supporter of President Donald Trump who pointedly refused to wear a mask during the coronavirus pandemic, has died after contracting COVID-19, his website said on Thursday.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN24V2OD


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    Have a feeling that his death is going to be highly politicized since he was at Trump's rally that he held a few weeks back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post

    Herman Cain has died.

    Will update if his condition changes.
    Please do. Might have to start a new religion if his condition changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Have a feeling that his death is going to be highly politicized since he was at Trump's rally that he held a few weeks back.
    I want to say they're above that, but they really aren't.

    Its already on RPF, @enhanced_deficit can't help itself and is connecting the death to Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    I want to say they're above that, but they really aren't.

    Its already on RPF, @enhanced_deficit can't help itself and is connecting the death to Trump.
    Well he did go to that rally where everyone was unmasked. Either we are in a pandemic with mask laws or we are not. Which is it? Why should Trump not be criticized for holding an unmasked rally if we all are required to masks in public places?

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    Dying of lung failure to own the libs
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    I want to say they're above that, but they really aren't.

    Its already on RPF, @enhanced_deficit can't help itself and is connecting the death to Trump.
    If you can let go of the Trump worship for a moment, you'll see that @enhanced_deficit isn't wrong on this. Trump should have insisted on social distancing as a way to mask low numbers. It was a stupid, stupid gamble. He gained nothing from having a "packed" half full auditorium. Herman Cain took a gamble too and it may have cost him his life. Yes he was old and had underlying conditions. That's why he should have stayed the hell out of crowds. People can argue that masks don't work. But if Cain had had on a mask and still got sick and died then Trump wouldn't be dealing with bad optics along with losing a key supporter. Goodness. Total train wreck. No other way to spin this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Have a feeling that his death is going to be highly politicized since he was at Trump's rally that he held a few weeks back.
    Online news media headlines are already very political including popular sources like Reuters,TMZ etc linking it directly to masks, Tulsa rally but brief TV reporting I saw seemed pretty apolitical. Things could change but there have been examples of great divergence in political coverage in online vs TV media as happened in case of infamous Syria war push news story involving Andrew Adler of Atlanta that was very controversial hotly debated online media news story but was barely covered by TV media.

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    That rally was a tremendous blunder. People cant try to spin it however they want, but Trump isn't nearly as savvy as some insist he is. He's not dumb by any means, but he ain't no 4D chess player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by axiomata View Post
    Please do. Might have to start a new religion if his condition changes.
    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by axiomata View Post
    Please do. Might have to start a new religion if his condition changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    That rally was a tremendous blunder. People cant try to spin it however they want, but Trump isn't nearly as savvy as some insist he is. He's not dumb by any means, but he ain't no 4D chess player.
    The rally was more than 5 weeks ago, pretty sure he got it after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Well he did go to that rally where everyone was unmasked. Either we are in a pandemic with mask laws or we are not. Which is it? Why should Trump not be criticized for holding an unmasked rally if we all are required to masks in public places?
    I know you thought you had a great point but.......

    Why don't you share with the class which federal mask law you're looking at? Mask mandates are state issued, not federal. Good try though, not really.



    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trump should have insisted on social distancing as a way to mask low numbers. It was a stupid, stupid gamble. He gained nothing from having a "packed" half full auditorium. Herman Cain took a gamble too and it may have cost him his life. Yes he was old and had underlying conditions. That's why he should have stayed the hell out of crowds.
    Lol. I was responding to Anti_globalist that the connections to Trump has already begun on this forum, which it had before I posted. Are you going to be ok accepting reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    @enhanced_deficit isn't wrong on this.
    Sorry to let you down kiddo, trolls are always wrong.
    Last edited by eleganz; 07-30-2020 at 10:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The rally was more than 5 weeks ago, pretty sure he got it after that.
    Ya , I think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The rally was more than 5 weeks ago, pretty sure he got it after that.
    Yeah but common sense isn't going to be used in this scenario. Orange Man bad!
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    I read he died of liver failure, of course his demise might have been sped up a tad from the beer virus, but he was on his way out soon anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Zero reports on whether he was taking hydroxychoroquine as a prophylaxis, or if he started taking it and zinc as soon as he had his first symptoms. If he had done that, the MSM would probably be reporting on it. It's possible they will wait a few days as he just died.

    Who knows what shape he was in. He was old and high-risk.
    Cain had stage 4 cancer. Every death these days is a "covid" death, according to hospitals. No HCQ is going to reverse stage 4 cancer. I sure wouldn't give two $#@!s about wearing a mask if I knew my death was imminent, either.

    Since his death news was circulating on the net for days before the official announcement, I assume they didn't want to cut too much into the Rep. Lewis' worship stuff.
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The rally was more than 5 weeks ago, pretty sure he got it after that.
    Although his judgments can be questionable at times (his claims about Obama turned out to be bogus) but in this case TPUSA's rising star Ben Shapiro has made some powerful arguments to defend Trump:

    Ben Shapiro slams 'gross' pundits blaming Trump rally for Herman Cain’s death from coronavirus
    By Yael Halon | Fox News

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The rally was more than 5 weeks ago, pretty sure he got it after that.
    He was hospitalized on July 2. It usually takes weeks before people die from COVID.

    And DuckDuckGo is very helpful in finding that information. A search on "Herman Cain" first brings up a list of stories from July 2 about Cain first being hospitalized, not stories about his death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    He was hospitalized on July 2. It usually takes weeks before people die from COVID.

    And DuckDuckGo is very helpful in finding that information. A search on "Herman Cain" first brings up a list of stories from July 2 about Cain first being hospitalized, not stories about his death.
    How did he get to the rally?
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Dying of lung failure to own the libs
    He was a fighter for the cause till the end.

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    Media was already escalating blame game.





    Trump’s dead end: With 150,000 dead (including Herman Cain), will this president learn a vital coronavirus lesson?

    Daily News Editorial Board, New York Daily News
    July 30, 2020

    Joseph Stalin, a connoisseur of death and dying, was known (perhaps apocryphally) to have said, “The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.” The meaning was clear: At a certain point, a people can become numb to carnage. This week, America passed 150,000 dead from COVID-19, a disease caused by a virus that arrived on these shores in February. President Trump rarely mentions the number as he pushes businesses and schools to reopen, and as he continues, after seeming responsible for a split second, to set a poor example on mask-wearing.
    Speaking of tragedies and statistics, perhaps one death might focus Trump’s mind, and if not that, the nation’s: Businessman and former presidential candidate Herman Cain succumbed to the coronavirus on Thursday. A 74-year-old African-American, he was demographically in the fatality sweet-spot. Yet when Trump defiantly and against the advice of public health experts held a crowded indoor political rally on June 20 in Tulsa, there was Cain in attendance, maskless, smiling, surrounded.

    On Wednesday, 1,449 Americans died, as COVID deaths soar once again after dipping to 212 on July 5.
    If deaths were to average 1,000 per day through the remaining 154 days of 2020, America will soar past 300,000 dead. It didn’t have to be, and still doesn’t have to be. Not with lockdowns and true leadership at the federal and state level to truly extinguish what Trump calls embers and fire rather than relighting it over and over and over again.
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    It is Donald Trump’s worst nightmare: giving his acceptance speech in front of a half-empty arena, facing an audience whose faces are covered in masks, muffling their cheers and chants.

    But it is exactly what he may be facing if last month’s edict from authorities in Jacksonville, Florida, mandating masks for all indoor gatherings remains in effect through late August. There is a special twist to this ruling: The Republicans had moved their convention out of Charlotte, North Carolina—a city that had put safety rules in place about public gatherings—just so the president could get the kind of crowd he wanted.

    As of now, the planned Jacksonville convention looks like another blow to Trump’s insatiable hunger for crowds. His campaign kickoff last month in Tulsa, Oklahoma, turned from a potentially thrilling launchpad to an embarrassment when the campaign claimed it had had more than a million ticket requests, and the president ended up speaking to whole empty sections of a 19,000-seat arena. So fearful was his entourage about the prospect of empty seats, according to press reports, that they went through the arena, removing social distancing signs, hoping for a crowd jammed together, in direct violation of the arena’s policy.
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    Unfortunately comparisons between Bush led $3 Trillion Iraq war and Trump led $6 Trillion war against the 'invisible enemy' aka covid-19 were already coming up online/in social media and could be soon discussed on TV media too. Hopefully they won't go there over GOPA leader's handling of covid-19 but last time liberal media went into "Bush Lied, People Died" frenzy, they ended up getting Barack Hussein Obama elected.







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