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  1. #1

    If what's happening in Portland happened in 2013

    How many threads would there be about it?
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
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    There would probably be many threads about it.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    All these countless predictions about how the Patriot Act/indefinite detentions part of NDAA would be used against us, and then it is, and because it is orange man being a tyrant, it's apparently okay? I don't know. This should be time to join with everyone else who is horrified by what these two things have allowed for.

    This is not only Trump but Trump is the one actually dictatorial enough to use the oppressive powers they were given and not just keep them in their back pocket.

    The bright side is this:
    People hate Trump. This could be a movement against these things that we have hated so long because so many people don't want someone like Trump to have those kind of powers.

    Let's take advantage of people's hate of Trump to actually get them to care about liberty issues. How about it?
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    All these countless predictions about how the Patriot Act/indefinite detentions part of NDAA would be used against us, and then it is, and because it is orange man being a tyrant, it's apparently okay? I don't know. This should be time to join with everyone else who is horrified by what these two things have allowed for.

    This is not only Trump but Trump is the one actually dictatorial enough to use the oppressive powers they were given and not just keep them in their back pocket.

    The bright side is this:
    People hate Trump. This could be a movement against these things that we have hated so long because so many people don't want someone like Trump to have those kind of powers.

    Let's take advantage of people's hate of Trump to actually get them to care about liberty issues. How about it?
    The majority of the American people don't care about liberty so they aren't going to care about those issues. I've told people in the past that the NDAA would be used against us and they just laughed in my face.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    Let's take advantage of people's hate of Trump to actually get them to care about liberty issues. How about it?
    $#@!ing THIS. This should be the perfect opportunity to say "the president shouldn't have this much power, right?" and "the government shouldn't have this much power, right?" and hear approval in reply. Even better, it's the federal government that's the problem, and suddenly you have people for whom state's rights was a dirty phrase realizing that they would like their state and local government to be able to make their own decisions without being overridden by the feds.


    This problem is going to get solved one way or another. If we let "them" come up with the solution all on "their" own then we're not going to like the results.


    The longer that liberty-minded people stay quiet, the less it looks like they actually give a $#@! about liberty. I'm starting to doubt that any of these people ever gave a $#@! about liberty, because this is 100% the thing that they claimed to oppose, and now it seems that they are perfectly content with staying quiet so long as it's directed at them. This, honestly, makes the PATRIOT act look like nothing in comparison, and all I'm hearing is either 100% approval "go git 'em," or radio $#@!ing silence. I'm not sure which is worse, frankly.

    I expected as much from the Q-cult, who have been spouting words of liberty while having wet dreams of martial law and military tribunals for years now. But it's much broader approval than just Qultists.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

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    In conclusion THE ONLY WAY BIDEN IS GOING TO SEE THE INSIDE OF THE OVAL OFFICE IS VIA THE A WHITEHOUSE PUBLIC TOUR

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    How many threads would there be about it?
    There are certainly some, they show up in the "Similar Thread" search at the bottom of this page.

    What I read in a few of them was the naive opinion that "we" could find common ground with these budding Marxists.

    Like an idiot, I was one of those people.

    So what's your larger point, other than your usual "you've all morphed into a bunch of racists"?
    Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings. - Heinrich Heine 1823

  8. #7
    List of House members who voted for it.

    https://usahitman.com/lohmvnb/

    Oregon
    YEA D Bonamici, Suzanne OR 1st
    YEA R Walden, Greg OR 2nd
    NAY D Blumenauer, Earl OR 3rd
    YEA D DeFazio, Peter OR 4th
    YEA D Schrader, Kurt OR 5th

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/RepThomas...85137347076096
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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I'm starting to doubt that any of these people ever gave a $#@! about liberty....

    LOL at this fake thread. You're a 2x Obama and Hilary voter. Your an extreme radical and Bolshevik who can't get enough government. You really are incredible.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    $#@!ing THIS. This should be the perfect opportunity to say "the president shouldn't have this much power, right?" and "the government shouldn't have this much power, right?" and hear approval in reply. Even better, it's the federal government that's the problem, and suddenly you have people for whom state's rights was a dirty phrase realizing that they would like their state and local government to be able to make their own decisions without being overridden by the feds.


    This problem is going to get solved one way or another. If we let "them" come up with the solution all on "their" own then we're not going to like the results.


    The longer that liberty-minded people stay quiet, the less it looks like they actually give a $#@! about liberty. I'm starting to doubt that any of these people ever gave a $#@! about liberty, because this is 100% the thing that they claimed to oppose, and now it seems that they are perfectly content with staying quiet so long as it's directed at them. This, honestly, makes the PATRIOT act look like nothing in comparison, and all I'm hearing is either 100% approval "go git 'em," or radio $#@!ing silence. I'm not sure which is worse, frankly.

    I expected as much from the Q-cult, who have been spouting words of liberty while having wet dreams of martial law and military tribunals for years now. But it's much broader approval than just Qultists.
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  13. #11
    So Trump should allow Radical Commies to destroy the City?

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    LOL at this fake thread. You're a 2x Obama and Hilary voter. Your an extreme radical and Bolshevik who can't get enough government. You really are incredible.
    What's "fake" about it?

    Can't address the content. so throw ad hominems?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    So Trump should allow Radical Commies to destroy the City?
    Ron Paul was also on the side of the terrorists.

    This silly tribesmanship is at best a cover for the lack of any principle.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    What's "fake" about it?
    Eh, suit yourself. Ask him why he made the thread.

    This is why some people here will never win.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 07-18-2020 at 02:49 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  16. #14
    What is happening in Portland exactly?

  17. #15
    So now the Feds can't protect Federal property?
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  18. #16
    LOL this thread is hilarious, ally with Marxists to promote liberty? YOU FIRST! they want you dead.

    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    I don't know why this has to be reiterated so often, but it does. These activists do not care. You can tweet #BLM all you want. You can talk about police brutality until the cows come home. It doesn't matter. To the academics and activists they train, libertarianism is just another form of white supremacy. They might use you momentarily like they used Amash, but you don't actually gain any brownie points with these types if you're on the right. Once you stop being useful they'll have no problem destroying you, and your tweets about police brutality and "black mourning" will mean nothing.

    There have been attempts to create a progressive-libertarian alliance since Rothbard was around and it never works. Ron Paul's idea of libertarian Republicans and progressive Democrats coming together to dismantle the security state, the drug war, and interventionism was a naive fantasy.

    He doesn't understand what progressivism is and where it comes from.

    There will be no alliance. They hate you. They hate Ron Paul. And they always will.
    What he said...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What he said...


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by jkob View Post
    What is happening in Portland exactly?
    Lots of rioting and looting and a secret police force is arresting people.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Lots of rioting and looting and a secret police force is arresting people.
    I could care less about Sanctimonious Marxist ecotopia llama therapy commie Portland.

  24. #21
    Leftist talking point...


    https://twitter.com/brianschatz/stat...07262895316992
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


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  25. #22

    https://twitter.com/slhamlet/status/1284312322803003392
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  26. #23

    https://twitter.com/MarcBodnick/stat...26090027823104
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Leftist talking point...


    https://twitter.com/brianschatz/stat...07262895316992
    This guy, (A Marxist?) telling people what to think?



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  29. #25
    Why the hatred against libertarians? I don't see any jumping for joy over this.
    ...

  30. #26
    It’s super mysterious why libertarians aren’t enraged about militarized state overreach on individual rights unless libertarianism was actually in the end mainly about white property owners not wanting any regulation or having to pay a lot of tax.

    It's super mysterious why the left never get's onboard the side of Liberty and always reverts to race as a talking point, oh, and more taxes.

    Besides, OR voted for this crap (see post #7) soooo guess what? I have no love lost for Oregon at all.

    Let the Commies and Fascist bash each other.
    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 07-18-2020 at 07:08 PM.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Leftist talking point...


    https://twitter.com/brianschatz/stat...07262895316992
    He's right. Just because it's coming from a leftist doesn't make it wrong.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    This guy, (A Marxist?) telling people what to think?
    You are not showing enough outrage in the 15 minutes of hate, comrade.
    ...

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Lots of rioting and looting and a secret police force is arresting people.
    People keep using that word ”secret". What exactly is secret about it when everyone knows about them, we know who they are with, we know they are tasked with protecting federal buildings, criminal suspects that they apprehended have been released, and cases and evidence turned over to the FBI.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    He's right. Just because it's coming from a leftist doesn't make it wrong.
    Libertarians SHOULD be freaking out about the Jacobin/Bolshevik mobs in Portland and they should cheer when law enforcement arrests them for crimes.
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