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    New petition to the White House on mandatory mask wearing

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    Asking permission for something they have absolutely no authority over.

    It takes a statist to understand, I guess.

    I don't need a petition, or permission. I go where I want, when I want, no mask on me.

    When are folks going to figure out that now more than ever is the time to "Starve the State"? Don't feed the animals!
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Asking permission for something they have absolutely no authority over.

    It takes a statist to understand, I guess.

    I don't need a petition, or permission. I go where I want, when I want, no mask on me.

    When are folks going to figure out that now more than ever is the time to "Starve the State"? Don't feed the animals!

    ^^^^This^^^^

    Want to be free? BE FREE. It's that frickin' simple.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Asking permission for something they have absolutely no authority over.

    It takes a statist to understand, I guess.

    I don't need a petition, or permission. I go where I want, when I want, no mask on me.

    When are folks going to figure out that now more than ever is the time to "Starve the State"? Don't feed the animals!
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    ^^^^This^^^^

    Want to be free? BE FREE. It's that frickin' simple.
    No government nor organization at any level should be able to mandate the public to wear face masks.

    Created by J.H. on July 10, 2020

    Sign This Petition

    Needs 99,729 signatures by August 9, 2020 to get a response from the White House

    271 signed
    100,000 goal
    Fresh oxygen is an absolute necessary for the well being of any person. No one should be able to restrict us from it, which is exactly what face masks do. The best thing that anyone can do to protect themselves from illnesses or viruses is to strengthen their immune system.







    If you don't want to make your voices heard supporting the right of Americans to not wear masks then go ahead, people will remember.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No government nor organization at any level should be able to mandate the public to wear face masks.

    Created by J.H. on July 10, 2020

    Sign This Petition

    Needs 99,729 signatures by August 9, 2020 to get a response from the White House

    271 signed
    100,000 goal
    Fresh oxygen is an absolute necessary for the well being of any person. No one should be able to restrict us from it, which is exactly what face masks do. The best thing that anyone can do to protect themselves from illnesses or viruses is to strengthen their immune system.







    If you don't want to make your voices heard supporting the right of Americans to not wear masks then go ahead, people will remember.
    It is not a matter of "shouldn't". THEY DON'T. End of story!

    I am not signing a "petition", certainly not to "Feed the State".
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    It is not a matter of "shouldn't". THEY DON'T. End of story!

    I am not signing a "petition", certainly not to "Feed the State".

    He doesn't understand. THEY DON'T CARE WHAT WE THINK.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    He doesn't understand. THEY DON'T CARE WHAT WE THINK.
    We don't care what he thinks either. I'm just getting a positive word in for any newbies/passersby ;-)
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    We don't care what he thinks either. I'm just getting a positive word in for any newbies/passersby ;-)

    I hear you. The long and the short of it is, you don't petition or beg for permission to exercise your rights. You ASSERT them.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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    I'd rather have people ignore the demands of wearing a mask and just go about their day.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    For those who wonder what happened to activism around here, ^^^THIS^^^ is what happened.

    The purists and fake purists shut it down as not pure enough.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    For those who wonder what happened to activism around here, ^^^THIS^^^ is what happened.

    The purists and fake purists shut it down as not pure enough.

    NOBODY has shut anything down or prevented you or anyone else from signing a petition. You're lying again. Telling you the truth regarding the effectiveness of your particular activity is in no way "shut[ting] it down." It's merely an attempt to inform you that your limited time, effort and other scarce resources would be better spent in other, more effective activities. You're still perfectly free to ignore that good advice.

    And please spare us the decietful implication that if not for "purists" this place would be a hotbed of activity and activism. That's pure bull$#@! and you know it. The biggest contributing factor to the lack of any real activity here is the fact that most people here have become so demoralized and defeated, and have so identified with the victim mentality, that it's psychologically almost impossible for them to act. You and others with your constant bombardment of hate and negativity are the prime reasons for that. "Purists" have nothing to do with it.
    Last edited by CCTelander; 07-15-2020 at 07:01 PM.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I'd rather have people ignore the demands of wearing a mask and just go about their day.
    How about those people in Michigan?

    It's a misdemeanor with a $500 fine.

    It's cheaper to pay the fine than it is to hire an attorney and fight it in court.

    What would you suggest those folks do in this context?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    How about those people in Michigan?

    It's a misdemeanor with a $500 fine.

    It's cheaper to pay the fine than it is to hire an attorney and fight it in court.

    What would you suggest those folks do in this context?
    Numbers help. If by folks plural, they could ban together and fight it locally. People need to be creative and stop bowing down. FFS, look at BLM and others.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Michigan sheriff says he'll respond to people not wearing masks, but won't enforce fines

    This is why I would rather the elected sheriff do all the law enforcement and get rid of the police.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    NOBODY has shut anything down or prevented you or anyone else from signing a petition. You're lying again. Telling you the truth regarding the effectiveness of your particular activity is in no way "shut[ting] it down." It's merely an attempt to inform you that your limited time, effort and other scarce resources would be better spent in other, more effective activities. You're still perfectly free to ignore that good advice.

    And please spare us the decietful implication that if not for "purists" this place would be a hotbed of activity and activism. That's pure bull$#@! and you know it. The biggest contributing factor to the lack of any real activity here is the fact that most people here have become so demoralized and defeated, and have so identified with the victim mentality, that it's psychologically almost impossible for them to act. You and others with your constant bombardment of hate and negativity are the prime reasons for that. "Purists" have nothing to do with it.
    You are discouraging people from pursuing all avenues to fight for their rights, you not only don't sign the petition but post about how it's stupid and wrong to do so.

    And don't give me that nonsense about it taking any time or effort to sign an internet petition, nobody is that stupid.
    And it is you purists and fake purists who go around spreading demoralization and defeatism while spreading hate for anyone who doesn't meet purist standards either here or in politics and wasting people's time and money on losers and backstabbers who work with our worst enemies against our best allies.

    Your game is painfully obvious.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    How about those people in Michigan?

    It's a misdemeanor with a $500 fine.

    It's cheaper to pay the fine than it is to hire an attorney and fight it in court.

    What would you suggest those folks do in this context?
    I suggest folks realize that liberty is against the wall, it might cost you labor and resources to defend it, but it is worth it. Fight that $#@!, Brother!

    I would prefer to give a lawyer $1000 than willingly give the tyrants $100. That’s where I am at.



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    Signed it. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No government nor organization at any level should be able to mandate the public to wear face masks.

    Created by J.H. on July 10, 2020

    Sign This Petition

    Needs 99,729 signatures by August 9, 2020 to get a response from the White House

    271 signed
    100,000 goal
    Fresh oxygen is an absolute necessary for the well being of any person. No one should be able to restrict us from it, which is exactly what face masks do. The best thing that anyone can do to protect themselves from illnesses or viruses is to strengthen their immune system.







    If you don't want to make your voices heard supporting the right of Americans to not wear masks then go ahead, people will remember.
    So I privately owned senior citizens home should not have the right to say you can't come in if you aren't wearing a mask? So much for private property rights. Also from my own "cigarette lighter" tests, the surgical style masks don't signficantly reduce the flow of oxyegn. Still, face shields potentially offer better protection and don't restrict oxygen flow at all. (Face shields protect your eyes for example and you are unlikely to touch your face with one one.)

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  22. #19
    At this point does a mandate matter? People have decided if they are going to wear one or not. I suppose if people were fined for not wearing one, you'll get a small percentage more complying.

    At this point a mandate does 2 things. 1) piss some people off 2) generate revenue from fines. The number of people waiting for a mandate to wear a mask is so small it probably would not effect the spread of COVID-19. I wear a mask when I need to.



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