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    Call To Action - Phonebank For Ron Paul Republican Matt Gurtler

    Here in GA's 9th Congressional District Ron Paul Republican Matt Gurtler took 1st place in the Primary election. In GA you need 50% to avoid a run-off and this was a 9 way race and Matt took 1st place with around 22% of the vote. He has been endorsed by Rand Paul, Ron Paul and Thomas Massie. The district is R+31 so if he can win the August 11th republican runoff election he WILL win this seat.

    He has literally never made a compromise vote while in the state house. Voting "no" more than any other legislator in GA and voted Georgia's most conservative legislator 4 years in a row. He has been attacked RUTHLESSLY by the Atlanta swamp and his RINO opponent is attacking Matt for taking constitutional stands. Matt has higher name ID than his opponent and stands a very good chance to win this seat. Senator Rand Paul recently came to GA to fund-raise for Matt because he believes this is a winnable seat - but it's going to be a hard fought race.

    How awesome would it be to have another liberty republican in Congress? Nonetheless in a district that is R+31 (he'll never lose this seat or be forced to compromise for votes)




    If you feel so compelled to get involved and help spread the ideas of liberty there are two ways you can help out



    1. Donate ----> https://www.mattgurtlerforcongress.com/donate/


    2. Phone-bank from home ----> https://www.mattgurtlerforcongress.com/calls



    Both forms of activism (donation and phone banking) are very much appreciated! Feel free to message me or reply to the thread if you have any questions.
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    Matt's latest email blast said they have a base of large donors who are willing to commit another $50,000 in matched donations.... So if you're willing to drop even $10 it will be doubled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    Matt's latest email blast said they have a base of large donors who are willing to commit another $50,000 in matched donations.... So if you're willing to drop even $10 it will be doubled.
    I haven't had a chance to look into him yet but I will tomorrow. I think you're a pretty good judge so I'll be on board. Just busy AF right now.
    .
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I haven't had a chance to look into him yet but I will tomorrow. I think you're a pretty good judge so I'll be on board. Just busy AF right now.
    .
    Thank you - I appreciate that. When you have time this thread is a great jumping off point http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...t-Gurtler-(GA)

    and here's a great video explaining his motivation for getting into politics
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    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    Matt's latest email blast said they have a base of large donors who are willing to commit another $50,000 in matched donations.... So if you're willing to drop even $10 it will be doubled.
    I sent him $10 based on your word.
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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Anyone willing to match?



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I sent him $10 based on your word.
    You the man!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    You the man!!!!
    Thank you for bringing his name up! If he wins then 2020 isn't a total loss.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    Thank you - I appreciate that. When you have time this thread is a great jumping off point http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...t-Gurtler-(GA)

    and here's a great video explaining his motivation for getting into politics
    I'll be in for a bill tomorrow. Thank you for putting this guy out there.
    "The Patriarch"

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    A * Matt Gurtler
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    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." —Jeff Cooper

    Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    Here in GA's 9th Congressional District Ron Paul Republican Matt Gurtler took 1st place in the Primary election. In GA you need 50% to avoid a run-off and this was a 9 way race and Matt took 1st place with around 22% of the vote. He has been endorsed by Rand Paul, Ron Paul and Thomas Massie. The district is R+31 so if he can win the August 11th republican runoff election he WILL win this seat.

    He has literally never made a compromise vote while in the state house. Voting "no" more than any other legislator in GA and voted Georgia's most conservative legislator 4 years in a row. He has been attacked RUTHLESSLY by the Atlanta swamp and his RINO opponent is attacking Matt for taking constitutional stands. Matt has higher name ID than his opponent and stands a very good chance to win this seat. Senator Rand Paul recently came to GA to fund-raise for Matt because he believes this is a winnable seat - but it's going to be a hard fought race.

    How awesome would it be to have another liberty republican in Congress? Nonetheless in a district that is R+31 (he'll never lose this seat or be forced to compromise for votes)




    If you feel so compelled to get involved and help spread the ideas of liberty there are two ways you can help out



    1. Donate ----> https://www.mattgurtlerforcongress.com/donate/


    2. Phone-bank from home ----> https://www.mattgurtlerforcongress.com/calls



    Both forms of activism (donation and phone banking) are very much appreciated! Feel free to message me or reply to the thread if you have any questions.
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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    The Primary Run Off debate just concluded - check it out



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    Sorry for the delay. Just really busy. $100.00 donation just now. Friends of Matt Gurtler
    A * Matt Gurtler
    $100.00
    Hopefully the backers will match it. Thanks Trey.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Sorry for the delay. Just really busy. $100.00 donation just now. Friends of Matt Gurtler
    A * Matt Gurtler
    $100.00
    Hopefully the backers will match it. Thanks Trey.
    Thank you! Your support will help propel him to victory on August 11th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    Thank you! Your support will help propel him to victory on August 11th.
    I hope so. Not many worth donating to it seems like. Might throw in a few more tomorrow.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Sorry for the delay. Just really busy. $100.00 donation just now. Friends of Matt Gurtler
    A * Matt Gurtler
    $100.00
    Hopefully the backers will match it. Thanks Trey.
    +rep

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I hope so. Not many worth donating to it seems like. Might throw in a few more tomorrow.
    This time around we have Gurtler, Freitas and Mace to watch...
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    “They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



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    Thomas Massie just sent out a fundraising request for Matt, check it out.


    Dear Nathan,

    It’s our duty to preserve and defend our Constitutional Republic.

    That’s the oath I swore, and I will continue fighting to keep it.

    Thanks to the support of generous supporters like yourself and the voters, I was recently re-elected with 81%, despite the D.C. Swamp’s best efforts to defeat me.

    I will continue to fight tirelessly to defend your liberties from threats, both foreign and domestic.

    But, Nathan, I can’t do it alone. That’s why I’m writing you today.

    My friend, Representative Matt Gurtler, is in a heated Runoff election for an open seat in Georgia’s Ninth Congressional District.

    I’ve gotten to know Matt over the past few years. He’s got a proven record in the Georgia House.

    He’s proven he’s not afraid to stand up to the Party bosses.

    He’s proven he’s not afraid to call out their corruption and rotten deals.

    I believe Matt is the real deal.

    Here are some of Matt Gurtler’s accomplishments in the Georgia House:
    Matt never voted for a tax increase.
    He never voted for a budget, opposing ALL wasteful and unnecessary spending.
    Matt introduced and pushed for Constitutional Carry, so that law-abiding citizens don’t have to beg for government permission to exercise their God-given right to self-defense.
    Matt championed the pro-life movement, voting to pass the Heartbeat Bill.

    Matt is now running for an open seat in Congress, and it’s a fantastic opportunity for us send one of our own to Washington.

    On June 9, Matt came in FIRST PLACE in a 9-way Republican primary.

    Now, he’s is in a decisive Runoff Election slated for August 11, only 18 days away.

    The Runoff election will essentially determine the next Congressman, as it’s such a deeply Republican district. President Trump won Matt’s district (GA-09) by over 60 points in 2016.

    If Matt is elected to Congress, I can count on him to fight alongside me to:
    Defend Life – Matt believes life begins at conception. Like me, Matt believes no public money should ever be spent on abortion procedures, abortion pills, or embryonic stem cell research. Matt voted to pass Georgia’s Heartbeat Bill, and is endorsed by the National Pro-Life Alliance.

    Defend your Second Amendment Rights – Matt believes that all “weapon bans” and “gun-free zones” are unconstitutional. He is an NRA certified firearms instructor and introduced Constitutional Carry in Georgia. Matt will not compromise our gun rights. He has also been endorsed by the National Association of Gun Rights.

    Return Education Authority to the States and the People – Matt was raised in a homeschool family, and as a new Dad, Matt and his wife Marissa intend to homeschool their children. Matt wants to Abolish the Department of Education. I’ve introduced legislation to do so, and look forward to working with Matt to advance it.

    Audit the Federal Reserve and Restore Sound Money – Matt knows the Fed is out of control. The Fed cannot be allowed to continue bailing out favored banks and corporations. Sound money is necessary for a free and prosperous society. Matt agrees that Audit the Fed is a good start and must be done.

    Slash Spending, Taxes, and Regulations – Matt believes in the principles of free-market capitalism, and he knows that no one allocates money better than those who earn it. Matt will join me in standing up for fiscal sanity. That’s why he’s been endorsed by the Club for Growth.

    Support President Trump’s America First Foreign Policy – Like me, Matt believes that only Congress has the power to declare War and that it is perhaps the most serious power given to Congress. Matt will work with me and President Trump to stop the endless wars, bring our troops home to defend our borders here, not in Afghanistan.

    Nathan, it’s urgent that Matt Gurtler have your full support TODAY.

    You see, with a record and positions like this, Matt’s election to Congress won’t be easy.

    As you might guess, the Establishment is doing all they can to defeat Matt – including lies.

    Matt’s opponent is a self-funding candidate who has already loaned his campaign over $750,000 dollars.

    His opponent has also given TENS of THOUSANDS of Dollars to Swamp creatures like Paul Ryan, and even Democrats in Georgia.

    It’s important that Matt’s campaign have the money as soon as possible to prepare for the final budget before his August 11 election.

    Will you please send your most generous contribution of $100, $250, $500, $1,000, even $2,800 to help him win this critical race for Congress?

    Your support helped me win a huge re-election victory, and I’m very grateful.

    But, truth be told, I’m not sure who will be in Congress to fight for liberty alongside me after November. There's a good chance there will be more AOC-type socialists to contend with.

    Let’s make sure there’s at least one more principled pro-liberty Congressman to help me fight the D.C. Swamp.

    Matt shared with me his campaign plan, and it’s very similar to the plan my campaign executed to victory. For example, he’s deploying a field staff of passionate young people to knock on over 70,000 doors to win over voters!

    Matt’s already raised over $350,000 for his runoff campaign, but needs to raise another $100,000 to reach his goal of $450,000 and execute his full victory plan.

    Matt’s team has projected he only needs 40,000 votes to win this runoff. This is a great opportunity for a grassroots-driven movement like ours!

    Remember his election is rapidly approaching on August 11.

    Please RUSH your contribution in TODAY, so that Matt and his team can put it to immediate use!

    Send $2800
    Send $1,000
    Send $500
    Send $250
    Send $100

    Often times, it can be lonely on the House Floor standing up for the constitutional principles you and I hold dear. But I’m heartened by steadfast supporters like yourself who strongly believe in the cause of liberty.

    You know as well as I do that it’s our duty to preserve the blessings of liberty for future generations.

    Please help send me reinforcements. Let’s push Matt Gurtler over the finish line.

    Thank you.

    For Liberty,

    Thomas Massie

    P.S. Nathan, your support helped me win re-election by an overwhelming margin!

    If you and I are going to save our country, we need more fighters to stand up to the D.C. Swamp.

    I’m proud to support Representative Matt Gurtler in his campaign for an open seat in Georgia’s Ninth Congressional District.

    Matt is a proven fighter for liberty, who will fight alongside me against the D.C. Swamp.

    His decisive Runoff Election is on August 11, only 17 days away.

    Please send your most generous contribution TODAY!


    This will probably be my last donation (or close to it.) Donations sooner rather than later are needed in order to make a final push on the ground. I am also making calls daily. Both actions can help win. Please consider both avenues.

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    nathan

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    Literally 5 minutes later Matt put up a Facebook post offering T-shirts for sale... so I had to buy one!

    Thank you for your donation, nathan!

    You will receive your Official Matt Gurtler for Congress T-Shirt before the Runoff Election August 11th.

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    T-shirt donation link can be found Here
    Last edited by trey4sports; 07-24-2020 at 12:55 PM.
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    Andrew is a slime ball.
    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." —Jeff Cooper

    Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomtheTinker View Post
    Andrew is a slime ball.
    Yeah he really is. He is running a big smear campaign. The guy just panders and panders. He is most definitely a neo-con too. He wouldn't commit to removing troops from any of the 800 US bases around the world.
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    Got a fundraising mailer, his campaign says he needs 90K to fully execute the GOTV plan for the next 12 days. This will probably be my last donation.







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    Where were you when we made history?
    Thank you! Your application has been received. If you have any questions please contact info@mattgurtler.com.


    And

    Thank you for your donation, John!
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    Last edited by jmdrake; 08-07-2020 at 11:31 AM.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  25. #22
    I'm in...
    There are only two things we should fight for.
    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Where were you when we made history?
    Thank you! Your application has been received. If you have any questions please contact info@mattgurtler.com.


    And

    Thank you for your donation, John!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I'm in...
    Thank you guys! Tuesday is the run-off. Going to be really really tight from everything I can see. This run off is so unique because there aren't but 3 races on the ballot and this is the most high-profile of the three. So that means that turning out voters is priority #1. Combine that with rising COVID in GA and you've got a race that will be decided by organization and enthusiasm.


    Wanted to also point out a couple good pieces of news. Club For Growth made a $175K anti Clyde ad buy which can be seen here


    a $250K Pro Gurtler ad buy which can be seen here


    FreedomWorks has also endorsed Gurtler and made a $7500 ad buy but it is facebook only so i cant embed the video.

    Protect FreedomPAC has been running this ad in North GA




    This is all good news but i do have some bad news. The same PAC that torpedoed Brakey's campaign in ME just put up a $100K ad buy against Gurtler. The PAC is America Policy Fund. The PAC is linked to John Bolton. I have not seen the ads so I don't know exactly what the line of attack is but I am assuming it is DIRTY. Suffice it to say Matt's challenger is literally going scorched earth in this campaign. His whole strategy has been centered around smearing Matt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    ...
    This is all good news but i do have some bad news. The same PAC that torpedoed Brakey's campaign in ME just put up a $100K ad buy against Gurtler. The PAC is America Policy Fund. The PAC is linked to John Bolton. I have not seen the ads so I don't know exactly what the line of attack is but I am assuming it is DIRTY. Suffice it to say Matt's challenger is literally going scorched earth in this campaign. His whole strategy has been centered around smearing Matt.
    There is no Federal race that the neoconservatives and MIC do not get involved in. This should be a given.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    “They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



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    Run off is tomorrow. If you haven't checked out the new "China Clyde" website now is a good time to watch the ads and please share them via FB and social sites. www.chinaclyde.com
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  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    Run off is tomorrow. If you haven't checked out the new "China Clyde" website now is a good time to watch the ads and please share them via FB and social sites. www.chinaclyde.com
    Fingers crossed!

    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    “They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  31. #27
    Polls have closed! It's time for the moment of truth, folks.

    Follow the results here https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-election.html

    If you are following along the eastern counties have started reporting. Those are all Clyde strongholds, the numbers will go up as the other counties report.

    A couple harbinger counties to follow are forsyth and hall. They are most populous and most up for grabs.
    Last edited by trey4sports; Yesterday at 05:52 PM.
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  32. #28
    unfortunately early results are terrible. I think it's safe to call this a loss. Thank you to everyone who contributed and phone-banked. back to the drawing board.
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    unfortunately early results are terrible. I think it's safe to call this a loss. Thank you to everyone who contributed and phone-banked. back to the drawing board.
    Neocon swamp almost always wins.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    “They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Neocon swamp almost always wins.
    I think the take-away here is that if you are going to run a no-compromise Ron Paul Republican literally everything has to go right. In terms of money, Matts campaign fundraised well and we had almost $2M of outside money helping Matt (freedomworks, protectfreedompac, liberty pac, concerned american voters pac). So money wasn't the issue. Matt had pretty solid name ID being a state rep for 4 years. He ran a good campaign and had a hell of a ground game. I think the thing that killed the campaign was the fact that he was the only republican to vote against the solemani resolution and also the fact that he skipped the vote on a "peace officers" bill of rights. At the end of the day there is only so many votes where you can go against the grain and still come out victorious.

    I think the key thing here is that we had, what, 3 congressional races that we ran? Brakey, Gurtler, Freitas - that is not enough. Both Brakey and Gurtler had the money advantage versus their opponent when you factor in PAC's but still lost. The ground game in both races was solid as well. I think we are going to have to more stabs at the apple. Maybe we win 1/10? I dont know exactly, but we need more stabs at the apple for sure.

    The other takeaway, and I believe this is absolutely paramount....

    We are gong to win many more liberty races when the sitting president is a Democrat instead of a Republican.

    Unfortunately every GOP president is doing tons of unconstitutional stuff and liberty candidates don't compromise so we are bound to catch flack for that. When a democrat is in power our "NO" votes wont catch any flack from our own party.

    Honestly, I think the best thing for the liberty movement is for Donald Trump to lose in November.
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