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    Dozens of Fmr. GOP Nat'l Security Advisors back Biden

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive...155146283.html

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Dozens of Republican former U.S. national security officials are forming a group that will back Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, people familiar with the effort said, in a further sign that President Donald Trump has alienated some members of his own party.

    The group will publicly endorse Biden in the coming weeks and its members plan to campaign for the former vice president who is challenging Trump in the Nov. 3 election, the sources said. It includes at least two dozen officials who served under Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, with dozens more in talks to join, the sources added.

    They will argue that another four years of a Trump presidency would endanger U.S. national security and that Republican voters should view Biden as the better choice despite policy differences, the sources said.

    The initiative is being led by John Bellinger III and Ken Wainstein, according to the people involved, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Both held senior posts under George W. Bush. Bellinger served as legal adviser to the National Security Council and State Department. Wainstein served as Bush's homeland security adviser and as chief of staff to former FBI Director Robert Mueller.

    Another member of the group, the sources said, is Robert Blackwill, who served as a foreign policy adviser under both Bushes and ambassador to India under George W. Bush. The group includes some independents and officials from outside the national security arena, the sources said.

    Other groups of anti-Trump Republicans also are opposing his re-election including the Lincoln Project, co-founded by George Conway, husband of Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway. It is running anti-Trump ads in key battleground states.

    Bellinger, Wainstein and Blackwill have previously voiced opposition to Trump. They were among some 50 Republicans who signed an August 2016 letter after Trump had become the Republican presidential nominee, warning of the dangers of a Trump presidency and vowing not to vote for him.

    Trump has expressed contempt for Republican and conservative figures who have opposed him, saying on Twitter last year that such "Never Trumper Republicans" are "human scum."

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    So a bunch of so called republicans who helped shape Bush1 &2 national security policies don't like Trump. Boo Hoo Sorry I can't vote them out. They sure did make our country safe and all with 9-11 and the patriot act. Trump is far from perfect but I do believe his heart is in the right place for America.

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    Rather foolish to trust Republicans that worked for the Bushes.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Ah yes dozens problary they mean a few. Ex advisers who also supported John Bolton not a surprise to see them coming out in favor of Biden. The fact that some of them served under bush said alot

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    Biden presidency will open the door to war more readily.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Biden presidency will open the door to war more readily.
    This is pretty much true the problem with the democrats is that they believe that Hillary and Biden are voices of diplomacy like Obama admin was. But they do love wars and interventions.


    If they want a regime change in Syria Biden admin will make sure that will happen. And Biden admin will make sure to make the media feel as if they are "heroic in way" like they were with Libya.

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    Could the choice be any more clear?

    Biden = Deep state globalists

    Regardless of any flaws Trump has, he is the best tool available to use against the globalist machine.

    I appreciate the Trump presidency exposing the neocons and sending them back to their true home, the Democrat party.

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    Good news is that Pompeo, Steve Mnuchin (big covid-19 stimulus spend play star), Dennis Prager and Kushner (all strong national sec experts in their own right) still strongly support MAGA leader. Bolton-MAGA bad blood, infighting will cause some ripples but this does not mean that all globalist neocons have left the MAGA train.

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    Rather foolish to trust Republicans that worked for the Bushes.
    3D.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Could the choice be any more clear?

    Biden = Deep state globalists

    Regardless of any flaws Trump has, he is the best tool available to use against the globalist machine.

    I appreciate the Trump presidency exposing the neocons and sending them back to their true home, the Democrat party.

    P.S.
    I find it funny that some people here act as though Trump is a neocon, yet he still hasn't started a war. When is the last time we had a president go 4 years without starting a war?
    Bingo.

    Grey area is possible. We are lead to believe everything is black and white. If someone has flaws, then we need to ignore them in their entirety. Being neutral and not taking a side is not good enough. If you aren't spending 100% of your energy screaming about how terrible they are, then you are a bad person, not a libertarian, stupid, gullible, incompetent, or whatever else they can come up with to shame you. It's part of the demoralization campaign here.

    There are plenty of people here that fit into the neutral category on Trump. They see his bad and point it out when it happens. They also see his good and do the same. Like anything else in life, there is nuance. The people that have been mainly neutral have ended up being silenced for years now because of the war between the people that openly support or openly oppose. It's sad, because there are a ton of good voices we no longer hear, because they get drowned out between the pro and anti factions.

    And yeah, when you see all of the Obama, Clinton, and Bush (the same ones that opposed Ron Paul) acolytes rallying around one candidate and opposing everyone else, it's a pretty good indication of who to not support and how their duopoly is actually playing out right in front of us. They always were and always will be on the same side and will oppose any person or people that threatens that alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Good news is that Pompeo, Steve Mnuchin (big covid-19 stimulus spend play star), Dennis Prager and Kushner (all strong national sec experts in their own right) still strongly support MAGA leader. Bolton-MAGA bad blood, infighting will cause some ripples but this does not mean that all globalist neocons have left the MAGA train.



    3D.
    Didn't we see that last time? A bunch of establishment RINOs were anti-Trump, and a few ingratiated themselves with him, most of them ending up backstabbing him? What is the purpose of that? If he is such a neocon, why not go all in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Didn't we see that last time? A bunch of establishment RINOs were anti-Trump, and a few ingratiated themselves with him, most of them ending up backstabbing him? What is the purpose of that? If he is such a neocon, why not go all in?
    Because he's not a neocon, he's just a dupe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    Because he's not a neocon, he's just a dupe.
    You could say the same about George Bush Jr.

    Why not go all in, then?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You could say the same about George Bush Jr.

    Why not go all in, then?
    No, you really couldn't Bush is a total neocon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    No, you really couldn't Bush is a total neocon.
    Not sure he had a high enough IQ to have a real opinion on anything. He was definitely a neocon puppet.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Rather foolish to trust Republicans that worked for the Bushes.

    FIFY

    Of course, it's rather foolish to trust any of them, Democrats or Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    This is pretty much true the problem with the democrats is that they believe that Hillary and Biden are voices of diplomacy like Obama admin was. But they do love wars and interventions.


    If they want a regime change in Syria Biden admin will make sure that will happen. And Biden admin will make sure to make the media feel as if they are "heroic in way" like they were with Libya.
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