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    US attorney Berman fired after investigating Trump cronies

    On Friday, Attorney General Bill Barr unexpectedly announced that Geoffrey S. Berman, US attorney for the Southern District of New York was stepping down to be replaced by U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Jay Clayton.
    After Geoffrey Berman publicly refused to step down, today Barr sent him a letter that he was fired by President Donald because you have “chosen public spectacle over public service.
    Because you have declared that you have no intention of resigning, I have asked the President to remove you as of today, and he has done so.



    After this letter, Berman stepped down...
    Donald Trump has denied that he was involved in firing Berman.

    Berman, who contributed to Donald´s election campaign, has worked for the same law firm as Rudy Giuliani before being appointed by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions in January 2018, months after U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara was fired.

    Geoffrey Berman appears to have been fired for investigating Trump cronies a little too serious...
    Berman has prosecuted or brought charges against: 1) Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen; 2) Rudy Giuliani associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman. Berman also investigated Giuliani himself.
    Berman's office also brought charges against Michael Avenatti, the lawyer who is best known for representing porn actress Stormy Daniels but has also advised the notorious Clare Bronfman.

    It was also Geoffrey Berman, who charged Trump’s paedophile buddy Jeffrey Epstein, who was then arrested and died in prison of a supposed suicide under the responsibility of AG William Barr.
    Maybe the most damaging is that Berman continued the investigation after Epstein was suicided and declared that Epstein’s close friend Prince Andrew had “provided zero co-operation” in his investigation (despite promising to do so). His office even formally requested that the US Department of Justice would ask the British Home Office so Randy Andy could be questioned as a witness: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ey-Berman.html
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    Why is it Trump cronies? No one thinks the cronies are the ones being fired?

    Step out of the box and think. please.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Why is it Trump cronies? No one thinks the cronies are the ones being fired?
    I guess you're saying that we should praise the Donald slimebag when the same scum that he got appointed in the first place get fired or am I misinterpreting your "thinking"?!?

    But when some witness of the many crimes of the Donald and Bush crime gangs suddenly dies it is just another case of the "Clinton body count"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    I guess you're saying that we should praise the Donald slimebag when the same scum that he got appointed in the first place get fired or am I misinterpreting your "thinking"?!?

    But when some witness of the many crimes of the Donald and Bush crime gangs suddenly dies it is just another case of the "Clinton body count"...
    By ur logic Biden is a saint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    By ur logic Biden is a saint.
    By MY “logic” Joe Biden and President Donald are both corrupt, friends of paedophiles and controlled by the same cabal...
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Of course it isn’t suspicious that the corporate media (Bloomberg for example, who also dropped out of the race after putting the spotlight on President Donald) hasn’t been able to blow the whistle on the many, many scandals in Trump’s past (and present) either!

    There are many links from the same corporations (for example Goldman Sachs), corrupt elite to Biden and Trump.
    Maybe even more interesting is that Tiffany Trump (Donald's “other” daughter) and Naomi Biden, daughter of Joe’s son Hunter of Burisma infamy, are best friends.
    See Tiffany Trump with her friend Naomi Biden.


    Tiffany and Naomi graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in 2016. The ceremony was attended by Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who was running for president at the time
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6951410
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    By MY “logic” Joe Biden and President Donald are both corrupt, friends of paedophiles and controlled by the same cabal...

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6951410
    Biden supporters are idiots if they can expect a change after Biden wins if he does which i doubt. He will though bring back all the bad Obama polices. I guess you can call that a win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    I guess you're saying that we should praise the Donald slimebag when the same scum that he got appointed in the first place get fired or am I misinterpreting your "thinking"?!?

    But when some witness of the many crimes of the Donald and Bush crime gangs suddenly dies it is just another case of the "Clinton body count"...
    No what I am saying is stop, pause and think for yourself because your bias is showing.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    No what I am saying is stop, pause and think for yourself because your bias is showing.
    SDNY under Berman
    – no Prince Andrew interview,
    – no action on Ghislaine Maxwell,
    – undercharged Epstein.
    Also SDNY arrested Epstein in private.
    Why?
    Didn't charge under Mann Act.
    No simultaneous raids of properties.
    Why?
    Who was Berman protecting?
    — Cernovich (@Cernovich) June 20, 2020
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    SDNY under Berman
    – no Prince Andrew interview,
    – no action on Ghislaine Maxwell,
    – undercharged Epstein.
    Also SDNY arrested Epstein in private.
    Why?
    Didn't charge under Mann Act.
    No simultaneous raids of properties.
    Why?
    Who was Berman protecting?
    — Cernovich (@Cernovich) June 20, 2020
    Thank you.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Why?
    Who was Berman protecting?
    — Cernovich (@Cernovich) June 20, 2020

    Please not Cernovich!!!

    Mike Cernovich teamed up with Jeffrey Epstein’s buddy Alan Dershowitz (who was accused of sexually abusing Virginia Roberts Giuffre), a credibly accused pedophile, to try to take down a victim of Jeffrey Epstein & Dershowitz: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...afficking-ring
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    If it wasn't for Mike Cernovich, Epstein's records would have remained sealed.

    https://www.cernovich.com/epstein/

    https://www.cernovich.com/epsteindocuments/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    If it wasn't for Mike Cernovich, Epstein's records would have remained sealed.
    Thanks for (again) confirming your level of “thinking”...
    It was Trump crony attorney David Boies, who arranged for the new documents to be compiled that were later released.
    David Boies is probably best known for representing Bush crony Al Gore, to ensure that George W. Bush became US president in 2001

    In late 2012, Boies defended Gary Jackson, former president of Academi (that was once called BlackWater) of the brother of Trump’s Secretary of education Betsy DeVos, Erik Prince!

    David Boies said after Donald was crowned US president:
    I've known two Donald Trumps: the New York business man who gave my oldest son his first job and the very loving father. Our daughters were classmates at Penn.
    https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/vie...start=20#p6060


    For some reason the “released” documents include a “new” January 2016 deposition by Epstein’s houseman Juan Alessi. Why would they need a new affidavit from him without the interesting information on Donald Trump...

    Juan Alessi had testified in 2009 that Trump would regularly come for dinner at Epstein’s home — but was so close that Trump “never sat at the table” but instead ate “with me in the kitchen”: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...epsteins-house

    For some reason Alessi’s 2009 sworn deposition has been deleted from the internet (the following link gives an “access forbidden” message): https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...nt/p19/a263755
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post

    Please not Cernovich!!!

    Mike Cernovich teamed up with Jeffrey Epstein’s buddy Alan Dershowitz (who was accused of sexually abusing Virginia Roberts Giuffre), a credibly accused pedophile, to try to take down a victim of Jeffrey Epstein & Dershowitz: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...afficking-ring
    Irrelevant, what Berman did remains the same no matter who points it out whether or not you are right about Cernovich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Thanks for (again) confirming your level of “thinking”...
    It was Trump crony attorney David Boies, who arranged for the new documents to be compiled that were later released.
    David Boies is probably best known for representing Bush crony Al Gore, to ensure that George W. Bush became US president in 2001

    In late 2012, Boies defended Gary Jackson, former president of Academi (that was once called BlackWater) of the brother of Trump’s Secretary of education Betsy DeVos, Erik Prince!

    David Boies said after Donald was crowned US president:

    https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/vie...start=20#p6060


    For some reason the “released” documents include a “new” January 2016 deposition by Epstein’s houseman Juan Alessi. Why would they need a new affidavit from him without the interesting information on Donald Trump...

    Juan Alessi had testified in 2009 that Trump would regularly come for dinner at Epstein’s home — but was so close that Trump “never sat at the table” but instead ate “with me in the kitchen”: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...epsteins-house

    For some reason Alessi’s 2009 sworn deposition has been deleted from the internet (the following link gives an “access forbidden” message): https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...nt/p19/a263755
    Thank you for reminding us that Trump didn't trust Epstein so much that he ate in the kitchen so he could see what went in his food.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Barr: "Mr. Berman has resigned, we thank him for his wonderful and terrific and wonderful service."

    Berman: "Uh, no I didn't."

    Barr: "Ok, then, um... then Trump fired you."

    Trump: "I had nothing to do with it."



    It's fairly obvious what happened, no? Trump and associates (i.e. subjects of Berman's investigations) wanted him gone, but didn't want to be on record firing him, because of legal and/or PR concerns, but then Barr botched the forced resignation attempt and Trump tried to distance himself from Barr. The woman who has now replaced Berman by default is apparently his chosen successor and is expected to continue whatever investigations were underway. Meanwhile, the SCOTUS is expected to rule on the release of Trump's tax returns in the fairly near future.

    ...going to be an entertaining summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    It's fairly obvious what happened, no? Trump and associates (i.e. subjects of Berman's investigations) wanted him gone, but didn't want to be on record firing him, because of legal and/or PR concerns, but then Barr botched the forced resignation attempt and Trump tried to distance himself from Barr.
    I find it very complex to figure out how the average Trump fan “thinks”!
    Is there also an antidote (or magical spell somebody could cast) to make them wake up from the Trump dream world?!?

    While the Trump supporting media are claiming that just about all the media are against “poor” Donald (!), I still haven’t found a better story on the internet on the firing of US Attorney Geoffrey Berman than the Daily Mail article (!) from the OP...


    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The woman who has now replaced Berman by default is apparently his chosen successor and is expected to continue whatever investigations were underway. Meanwhile, the SCOTUS is expected to rule on the release of Trump's tax returns in the fairly near future.

    ...going to be an entertaining summer.
    There are a lot more interesting investigations started by (the office of) Geoffrey Berman that could be more than enough reason for the “deep state” to fire him!

    In January 2019, Berman charged Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who was present at the infamous 9 June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower – about damaging information on Clinton, adoption of Russian children, Bill Bowder and/or money laundering by the Russian Prevezon Holdings – with Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, and the Russian-Americans Rinat Akhmetshin and Irakly "Ike" Kaveladze (representing Aras Agalarov).
    Berman explained the charges against Veselnitskaya:
    Fabricating evidence to affect the outcome of pending litigation not only undermines the integrity of the judicial process, but it threatens the ability of our courts and our government to ensure that justice is done.
    He even charged the largest banks of Turkey and Israel for the violating sanctions against Iran (never mind that Donald’s Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross is wheeling and dealing in Iran) and hiding money in offshore accounts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Berman
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    A DoJ official said that Berman will be replaced by acting US attorney Craig Carpenito starting on 3 July.

    John Bolton claimed in his hot air book that Trump promised Turkish president Erdogan he would interfere in the Halkbank case, which was prosecuted by Berman’s office.

    Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer commented on the firing (technically forced resignation) of Berman:
    This late Friday night dismissal reeks of potential corruption of the legal process. What is angering President Trump? A previous action by this US attorney or one that is ongoing?
    Berman’s predecessor Preet Bharara (who was was fired after refusing to resign) commented on Bill Barr “Yes, the attorney general is a liar”: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ruptly-resigns


    On June 20, 2020, Representative Jerry Nadler, Chair of the House Judiciary Committee, used lots of big words in his announcement (president Donald is probably almost terrified...):
    Last night, Attorney General Bill Barr told us that Geoffrey Berman of the SDNY had resigned—which was untrue. Today, Barr told us that the President asked him to fire Mr. Berman—which may also be untrue, given that the President says he had nothing to do with the decision. The whole thing smacks of corruption and incompetence, which is what we have come to expect from this President and his Attorney General.

    Neither the President nor the Department of Justice have offered any explanation for Mr. Berman’s purported dismissal. We know that the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York is engaged in investigations aimed at President Trump’s inner circle. We know, from revelations earlier this week, that the President wanted to have ‘his own people’ in that office to help him with his personal and political needs. And we know that, time and time again, Bill Barr has reached into ongoing criminal investigations in order to protect the President from their consequences. The American people are right to be outraged. Barr may sit in the office of the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, but he clearly cares very little about the law.

    The House Judiciary Committee will immediately open an investigation into this incident, as part of our broader investigation into Barr’s unacceptable politicization of the Department of Justice. On Wednesday, the Committee will hear from two whistleblowers who will explain why Barr’s attempt to fire Mr. Berman is part of a larger, ongoing, and wholly unacceptable pattern of conduct. If the President removes Mr. Berman, then we will take additional steps to secure his testimony as well.
    https://judiciary.house.gov/news/ema...ZA3TFCVHOZ3FHM
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    Berman also ignored the tons of incriminating information about Biden and his son Hunter in Ukraine scandal. But nothing to see here.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Berman also ignored the tons of incriminating information about Biden and his son Hunter in Ukraine scandal. But nothing to see here.
    If you have them, please open your eyes!

    Weren’t there some Ukraine scandals that involved Trump laywer Rudy Giuliani and Rick Perry: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ry-Ukrainegate


    EDIT
    There was also of course Trump’s lawyer Chabad-Lubavitcher Michael Cohen’s brother...
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Viktor Topolov, one of the richest men in Ukraine, was associated with Leonid Roytman who worked for Russian mob boss Semion Mogilevich. Topolov and Alexi Oronov partnered to build an ill-fated factory in Ukraine. So in 2006, they hooked up with none other than Trump’s long-time lawyer Michael Cohen and his brother Bryan Cohen (who just happened to Oronov’s son-in-law), to pitch the factory deal to Morgan Stanley.
    Oronov set up the meeting between Michael Cohen, Trump associate Felix Sater and Ukrainian MP Andrii Artemenko, to draw up a Ukrainian peace plan that Michael Cohen allegedly brought to Michael Flynn’s desk.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6920218
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    On August 8, 2018, weeks before the midterm elections, Berman announced insider trading charges against Trump supporter, U.S. Representative Chris Collins, who subsequently resigned from Congress.

    On 22 June 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins, that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins immediately phoned his son to instruct him to sell Innate shares.
    By selling before this news was published Collins and his family avoided around $570,000 in losses (the shares dropped around 90%).

    Collins subsequently pleaded guilty to insider trading and lying to the FBI.
    On 17 January 2020, Judge Vernon Broderick sentenced Collins to 26 months in prison. This was supposed to start on 17 March, but has been delayed to 21 April, June 23, and now 18 August, supposedly because of the COVID-19 “pandemic”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_...rk_politician)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    If you have them, please open your eyes!

    Weren’t there some Ukraine scandals that involved Trump laywer Rudy Giuliani and Rick Perry: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ry-Ukrainegate


    EDIT
    There was also of course Trump’s lawyer Chabad-Lubavitcher Michael Cohen’s brother...
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6920218

    This is the very thing they used to throw on President Trump of which he did not do. But you're not interested are you, because Orange Man Bad? Berman had this information that Biden admitted to and did nothing.




    The relevant portion of the speech is transcribed below.

    I remember going over and convincing our team, others, to convince that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.
    So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b-tch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Thanks for (again) confirming your level of “thinking”...
    It was Trump crony attorney David Boies, who arranged for the new documents to be compiled that were later released.
    Mike Cernovich was the original person to file the lawsuit. Later on, the Miami Herald and Alan Derschowitz joined on.
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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    On August 8, 2018, weeks before the midterm elections, Berman announced insider trading charges against Trump supporter, U.S. Representative Chris Collins, who subsequently resigned from Congress.

    On 22 June 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins, that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins immediately phoned his son to instruct him to sell Innate shares.
    By selling before this news was published Collins and his family avoided around $570,000 in losses (the shares dropped around 90%).

    Collins subsequently pleaded guilty to insider trading and lying to the FBI.
    On 17 January 2020, Judge Vernon Broderick sentenced Collins to 26 months in prison. This was supposed to start on 17 March, but has been delayed to 21 April, June 23, and now 18 August, supposedly because of the COVID-19 “pandemic”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_...rk_politician)
    LOL you know the trumpkins don't read that stuff and certainly can't connect obvious dots. If it ain't on Breitbart or Fox it didn't happen. Just remember to vote! It's important!



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  27. #24
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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    LOL you know the trumpkins don't read that stuff and certainly can't connect obvious dots.
    It could be funny it it wasn't so horrible!
    Maybe Turkey and Israel are even more interesting than the Ukraine...


    In 2019, Attorney General William Barr “personally spearheaded” the attempt to stop the investigation by the Department of Justice into the largest Turkish state-owned bank, Halkbank.
    That came after President Recep Tayyip Erdogan contacted President Donald “in a bid to avoid charges” and a lobbying campaign for months to avoid prosecution.

    The top lobbyist for Turkey was Trump crony Brian Ballard, who had extensive contact with Trump’s lawyer Jay Sekulow during that time.

    On 15 October 2019, despite all the pressure, US attorney Geoffrey Berman indicted the Halkbank anyway for a multi-billion-dollar scheme to evade U.S. sanctions on Iran. Berman explained:
    The bank's audacious conduct was supported and protected by high-ranking Turkish government officials, some of whom received millions of dollars in bribes to promote and protect the scheme.
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...pease-erdogan/


    In 2017, the Turkish state bank HalkBank hired former Congressman Bob Wexler and Ballard Partners for $375,000 per quarter: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0390a1564def5
    (http://archive.is/xAmap)


    Brian Ballard’s firm, Ballard Partners, was paid $1.5 million from 15 May 2017 to 14 May 2018.
    Brian Ballard is a long-time lobbyist for Donald Trump, and raised $16 million for Trump’s presidential campaign. Trump called him after purchasing Mar-a-Largo in 1985, and paid Ballard at least $460,000 from 2013 to 2015 for lobbying work: https://armenianweekly.com/2017/06/2...-and-pr-firms/
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  30. #26
    On 30 April 2020, Geoffrey Berman announced a deferred prosecution agreement against Israel's largest bank Bank Hapoalim, for helping to hide assets in offshore accounts and helping to bribe FIFA officials (the body that controls international soccer).
    Bank Hapoalim settled the 2 cases for more than $900 million. Berman commented:
    Israel's largest bank, Bank Hapoalim, and its Swiss subsidiary have admitted not only failing to prevent but actively assisting U.S. customers to set up secret accounts, to shelter assets and income, and to evade taxes. The combined payment approaching $1 billion reflects the magnitude of the tax evasion by the Bank's U.S. customers, the size of the fees the Bank collected to provide this illegal service, and the gravity of the illegal conduct.
    In the first case, Bank Hapoalim helped launder millions in bribes and kickbacks paid to officials in FIFA. Between 2010 and 2015, Hapoalim’s Miami branch laundered illicit payments to FIFA officials, including former head of Colombian football and a member of FIFA’s executive committee Luis Bedoya. In 2015, Bedoya was banned from international soccer and was (is?) awaiting sentencing after pleading guilty pleading guilty to racketeering and wire fraud.
    Assistant Attorney General Brian A. Benczkowsk commented:
    For nearly five years, Bank Hapoalim employees used the U.S. financial system to launder tens of millions of dollars in bribe payments to corrupt soccer officials in multiple countries.
    In the second case, Bank Hapoalim pleaded guilty to aiding U.S. customers in setting up accounts under false names to evade taxes on more than $7.6 billion in deposits.
    For this second case alone, Bank Hapoalim agreed to pay $874 million in penalties, tax arrears and forfeited assets: http://archive.is/KOtzE


    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Kushner Companies also received at least 4 “loans” from Bank Hapoalim, Israel’s largest bank, which is under investigation of the US Department of Justice for helping US citizens evade taxes through undeclared accounts through its Swiss division.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6688710
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  31. #27
    If Trump's firing is wrong or illegal, then impeach him

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by gaazn View Post
    If Trump's firing is wrong or illegal, then impeach him

    Turns out he was fired for protecting Epstein associates.


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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Berman also ignored the tons of incriminating information about Biden and his son Hunter in Ukraine scandal. But nothing to see here.
    Rudy Giuliani was in contact with former U.S. attorney Bud Cummins about the allegations against Manafort and Biden in the Ukraine.
    In January 2019, Giuliani interviewed Yuriy Lutsenko and Viktor Shokin, but instead of bringing this information to the FBI, Rudy leaked this information to the press (obviously Giuliani didn’t want this thoroughly investigated...).
    Rudy explained:
    I deliberately shared my stuff with media because I didn't want to give it to the FBI. The very best thing to do is to use the press.
    Cummins confirmed that he contacted Geoffrey Berman about Lutsenko's claims, but that: “At the time, I didn’t know a whole lot about Ukraine. I didn’t make any real attempt to vet this. I didn’t care, that wasn’t my job”.

    In early 2018, before Cummins first heard about Lutsenko's claims, Lutsenko had launched a personal attack against the then US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, by a series of unsupported allegations against her.
    Lutsenko even sought help from 2 Soviet-born “businessmen” who are close to Giuliani, Igor Fruman and Lev Parnas (that were later prosecuted by Berman).

    In 2016, Cummins served as chair of Donald Trump’s campaign in Arkansas, then as a Trump whip at the 2016 Republican National Convention in Cleveland. He went on to serve on the Trump administration transition team together with Geoffrey Berman.
    Cummins refused to say if his actions were related to lobbying for any particular client. Bud Cummins has previously lobbied for former Prime Minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/work...ry?id=67273198


    As for Burisma where Joe’s son Hunter Biden was once on the board of directors...
    Of course there are Trump links!

    On 10 September, John Bolton was fired or he resigned as Trump´s National Security Advisor.
    He was replaced by lawyer Robert O’Brien, who was chosen in 2005 by George W. Bush as deputy of ambassador at the UN John Bolton.
    Robert O´Brien is a Zionist Mormon: https://www.jns.org/jewish-pro-israel-c ... rity-pick/

    O’Brien was a senior adviser on the 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns of fellow Mormon, Senator Mitt Romney, who has known O’Brien for more than 15 years: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... ty-advisor

    Mitt Romney's national security adviser in his 2012 campaign — Joseph Cofer Black — since 2017 sits on the board of directors of Burisma.
    Cofer Black left the CIA in 2006 to join the Blackwater of Erik Prince, the brother of Trump´s education secretary, Betsy DeVos: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... ctors.html


    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    The second company that was hired by ECFMU, is Mercury/Clark & Weinstock, of Manafort and Rick Gates. Mercury is affiliated with ex-Republican congressman John Vincent "Vin" Weber, who was involved in the last presidential election campaign of Mitt Romney. Mercury received $570,000 from Brussels in 2012, 2013.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6546021
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Rudy Giuliani was in contact with former U.S. attorney Bud Cummins about the allegations against Manafort and Biden in the Ukraine.
    In January 2019, Giuliani interviewed Yuriy Lutsenko and Viktor Shokin, but instead of bringing this information to the FBI, Rudy leaked this information to the press (obviously Giuliani didn’t want this thoroughly investigated...).
    Are you not paying attention? In this context I agree with Giuliani, because it is the FBI that has been the center of this very corruption and obstruction-- James Comey, Christopher Wray, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page--etc...
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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