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    Prolonged mask wearing is not legal or healthy

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    That OSHA regulation is clearly for the oxygen in the building, not in your mask. Your mask isn't a workplace lol. It's dishonest but she's right about it being an illegal order.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    That OSHA regulation is clearly for the oxygen in the building, not in your mask. Your mask isn't a workplace lol. It's dishonest but she's right about it being an illegal order.
    If the oxygen you breath is less than what you need it doesn't matter whether that is because of the mask or the building.
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    If people made the connect...they are doing this to keep people's immune system low so they can get sick and be counted as a covid casualty.

    These people are just plain EVIL.




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    Breathing in your own spittle and snot all day long doesnt sound healthy to me

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    3 questions i would ask people who claim masks are great.

    A-If they work so well in keeping people who wear them from getting sick then why dont doctors and nurses wear them all the time?
    B-If they work so well then why do 100,000 people a year die from hospital acquired infections?
    C-If they work so well then why is it necessary to release prisoners. Cant they wear masks and be locked down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenpaul View Post
    3 questions i would ask people who claim masks are great.

    A-If they work so well in keeping people who wear them from getting sick then why dont doctors and nurses wear them all the time?
    B-If they work so well then why do 100,000 people a year die from hospital acquired infections?
    C-If they work so well then why is it necessary to release prisoners. Cant they wear masks and be locked down?
    You ask too many logical questions. Dr. Fauci said they were for the greater good, so just be quiet and wear your mask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helenpaul View Post
    3 questions i would ask people who claim masks are great.

    A-If they work so well in keeping people who wear them from getting sick then why dont doctors and nurses wear them all the time?
    B-If they work so well then why do 100,000 people a year die from hospital acquired infections?
    C-If they work so well then why is it necessary to release prisoners. Cant they wear masks and be locked down?
    If you don't wear one, the army of Karens will tattle on you. "SIR, SIR THIS MAN IS NOT WEARING A MUZZLE."
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    If you should need to have a surgical procedure done tell the surgeon and his team that they don't need to wear those stupid masks because you know that they are useless in preventing the spread of contagion and are only harmful to the wearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    If you should need to have a surgical procedure done tell the surgeon and his team that they don't need to wear those stupid masks because you know that they are useless in preventing the spread of contagion and are only harmful to the wearer.
    They do keep the surgical team from breathing germs into your insides while they have you cut open on the table but that is completely different from ordinary people wearing them all day around people who aren't cut open.
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    Asking Americans to be polite and help stop contagions.. what are people thinking! Besides the obvious love they neighbor as yourself, I really like that it helps screw up facial recognition. Now that face masks are acceptable here I plan to wear them often regardless of covid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    Asking Americans to be polite and help stop contagions.. what are people thinking! Besides the obvious love they neighbor as yourself, I really like that it helps screw up facial recognition. Now that face masks are acceptable here I plan to wear them often regardless of covid.
    That's a win too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They do keep the surgical team from breathing germs into your insides while they have you cut open on the table but that is completely different from ordinary people wearing them all day around people who aren't cut open.
    Well, I typically agree with you in regards to a lot of other issues. But we are as far apart as we can be on this one.



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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    Well, I typically agree with you in regards to a lot of other issues. But we are as far apart as we can be on this one.
    Fair enough.

    I do think that masks can reduce (not eliminate) exposure to the virus if you are in close quarters with people who are coughing and sneezing but in most circumstances they do more bad than good. (especially if you wear them for a long time)
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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    If you should need to have a surgical procedure done tell the surgeon and his team that they don't need to wear those stupid masks because you know that they are useless in preventing the spread of contagion and are only harmful to the wearer.


    More info: https://www.climatedepot.com/2020/05...cience-vacuum/

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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    If you should need to have a surgical procedure done tell the surgeon and his team that they don't need to wear those stupid masks because you know that they are useless in preventing the spread of contagion and are only harmful to the wearer.
    I can't believe people still use this insane argument. What does surgery have to do with the general population who are obviously not cutting people open where the skin has its own protection and immune system? And as Helen noted, if they were so effective outside of surgical procedures, why aren't doctors and nurses wearing them everywhere outside of surgery?

    Also funny how all the doctors calling people out on this insane issue are never quoted in the press....
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    I internally face palm every time I see people at my gym wearing masks while working out. You'd think they be intelligent enough to realize it might cause them to pass out. I should be a good samaritan and point this out to them but I'd rather they figure it out for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helenpaul View Post
    Breathing in your own spittle and snot all day long doesnt sound healthy to me
    I was wearing masks back when Dr. Frankenstein Fauchi said not to. And yes, wearing an n95 mask all day did cause me to have a runny nose. So I started wearing them just when I was in close proximity to people. I have my own homemade cloth mask. It's not nearly as irritating. Some jobs I go on require me to wear one.
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    Thats different and you know it. Masks dont prevent any spread of a respiratory virus. When you have a person opened up then bacteria can get in and even then the surgeon and nurses CANNOT touch any surface or themselves.

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    the inside of your mask has 100 times more bacteria than the floor you walk on.

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    Do Masks Even Work? Can You Be Forced To Wear One? Dr. Kaufman Weighs In

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post

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    So many problems with that tweet from “Doc Graham”. I would add that it’s a pretty old tweet, and even the guy (surgeon?) who wrote it may have changed his opinion.

    The size of an individual virus is irrelevant. They spread via droplets or aerosol, both of which are much larger than the virus itself. Deceptive or ignorant to make that argument. Second, the latest general opinion is that COVID does not spread via surfaces or hands touching things.

    The point about your average person not wearing a mask properly is fact. No disputing that. It doesn't mean that everyone fails in that regard though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    So many problems with that tweet from “Doc Graham”. I would add that it’s a pretty old tweet, and even the guy (surgeon?) who wrote it may have changed his opinion.

    The size of an individual virus is irrelevant. They spread via droplets or aerosol, both of which are much larger than the virus itself. Deceptive or ignorant to make that argument. Second, the latest general opinion is that COVID does not spread via surfaces or hands touching things.




    The point about your average person not wearing a mask properly is fact. No disputing that. It doesn't mean that everyone fails in that regard though.
    Yes, finally some common sense. The virus needs a droplet to spread and any covering is likely going to limit that. Thank you Brian

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    I wear a mask in public, and I have no problem with private businesses telling me to wear a mask. I also have a huge problem with people going into businesses and wrecking stores as part of their "constitutional right" to protest. That's so messed up.

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    If masks are so effective, then why even have lock downs in the first place?
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