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    This CHAZ Idea Is Growing on Me

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    John Nolte 12 Jun 2020

    This whole CHAZ idea is starting to grow on me. Border walls. High-capacity weapons. Federal and state governments no longer exist. A neighborhood in charge of itself, creating its own laws, its own mores, its own economic and justice system. The left like it. The media freakin’ love it. If you think about it, what’s not to like?

    As I write this, Black Lives Matter and Antifa have created their own confederacy and seceded from the union with the establishment of a Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or CHAZ, right in the heart of Seattle. They have seized six city blocks, built border walls, and are running around with guns in a community that reflects their values and their desire to live their lives in the way they choose to live their lives.

    This includes high-capacity weapons and vigilante groups that punish vandalism with a good, sound beating.

    The best part is that the CHAZ residents are refusing to allow “biased media” to enter their country. That sounds like paradise to me.

    As far as I know, anyone who wishes to exit the Seattle CHAZ is allowed to exit the CHAZ, so what’s the harm? If you want to live under a warlord, you can live under a warlord.

    Obviously, there are some issues here. Within the CHAZ you have about 500 residences, people who might not want to be part of the CHAZ. You also have property owners who are probably a little worried — and for good reason.

    But is this really the worst idea in the world?

    I’m not calling for armed insurrection or anything, but let’s be adults for a second and talk about the concept…

    I don’t know anyone on the left or right who isn’t fed up with the one-size-fits-all madness coming out of Washington DC, the courts, and state governments.

    The left is frustrated and angry over abortion restrictions, laws that allow corporations to donate money to political campaigns, and voter ID. What’s more, they want guns, the police, prisons, and charter schools outlawed and pot legalized. They want green energy, CEO pay limited, more socialism, lockdowns during pandemics, speech restrictions, and biological men to be allowed to compete in women’s sports. What the left resents more than anything is having their lives shaped by executive orders signed by Donald Trump and whichever way Clarence Thomas votes.

    The left believe in centralized authority.

    On the other side, there’s the right, who oppose abortion, public schools, and the war on their sacred religious rights being waged by the sexual revolution. We want to hunt, fish, worship, judge people based on their personal character as opposed to identity… We want a colorblind society with unlimited speech and artistic freedom, as well as a level playing field that allows everyone to achieve as much personal freedom, wealth, and success as their hard work will allow.

    The right believe in individual liberty within the framework of “live and let live” and the Ten Commandments.

    Does a workable CHAZ not sound like a possible solution to this massive cultural divide?

    Thomas Jefferson envisioned a nation of farmers, where everyone owned their own little piece of America and basically governed themselves: an agrarian society that grew its own food, hired its own teachers, built its own churches, and left the neighboring societies alone. If you didn’t like the way your town was governed, you were free to vote with your feet and move to a place more to your liking. That might sound less than visionary when you consider how technology — cars, planes, mass media — changed everything, but you have to keep in mind that from the beginning of civilization to the day Jefferson died in 1826, there was almost no real technological advancements.

    But basically, Jefferson described a CHAZ, no?

    The Southern Confederacy was a CHAZ, no?

    Obviously, we cannot allow for a CHAZ where slavery is legal or NAMBLA has its way with young boys, but maybe there’s a way for Blue and Red America to agree to just leave each other the hell alone.

    Maybe we can agree that the federal government should protect us from foreign invaders and otherwise stay out of our business.

    New York City can be its own CHAZ.

    Wyoming can be its own CHAZ.

    Southern California can be its own CHAZ.

    Northern California can be its own CHAZ.

    If the Austin CHAZ wants an abortion clinic on every corner and rural Texas wants abortion outlawed… Well, there you go.

    Tear down or erect all the statues you want!

    A CHAZ can be as large as a state and as small as a compound.

    The more we eliminate central control and authority, the more we balkanize into societies governed by laws, mores, and rules that reflect our own personal beliefs, the happier we will all be and the less concerned we will be with how others live because it’s no skin off my nose if you legalize pot in your CHAZ and teach homosexuality in your schools, and it’s no skin off your nose if my CHAZ legalizes prayer in school.

    Honestly, what’s wrong with that idea?

    You go your way. I’ll go mine.

    We’ve already self-sorted and migrated into Red and Blue enclaves where this could be pretty quickly put into place.

    The federal government and some state governments are now so overbearing and powerful, every political decision is a bitter battle because we’re forcing our values and ideas on one another.

    Remove that stress, and things can only get better.

    I’m just saying think about it…
    There are only two things we should fight for.
    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler



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    There are only two things we should fight for.
    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

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    One thing i thought was funny is that they said basically taxation was theft or extortion but wanted resources from other people. They are power hungry but don't know how to find food. If they have a good cause people will donate to it willingly so you know their morality is non existent and dont have good intent.

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    Wonderful except these people don't want to just have their little zone. They want the whole country to comply with their rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Wonderful except these people don't want to just have their little zone. They want the whole country to comply with their rules.
    Exactly. The same progressives cheering this on wanted a nuke dropped on Bunkersville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Exactly. The same progressives cheering this on wanted a nuke dropped on Bunkersville.
    Then it exposes their bloodthirsty hypocrisy and let's start the boogaloo.

    It was great hearing from you the other night by the way...give a call anytime you feel like shooting the $#@!.
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    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

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    It Appears that there had being reports of Rape and Robbery in CHAZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    It Appears that there had being reports of Rape and Robbery in CHAZ
    Seattle Police Chief: ‘We’re Not Able to Get to’ 911 Calls for ‘Rape, Robbery’ in Autonomous Zone

    https://news.yahoo.com/seattle-polic...124718101.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Seattle Police Chief: ‘We’re Not Able to Get to’ 911 Calls for ‘Rape, Robbery’ in Autonomous Zone

    https://news.yahoo.com/seattle-polic...124718101.html
    It seems that the libealrs are making this year easier for Trump to win again. This CHAZ thing was a great idea. It shows that not all activists are kind. It shows that if you defund the police or remove the police crime will grow in your communities and robbery

    Inviting homeless people to come to your area and giving away free stuff and food results in failure. I hope these leftists realize how ridiculous their ideology had become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    It seems that the libealrs are making this year easier for Trump to win again. This CHAZ thing was a great idea. It shows that not all activists are kind. It shows that if you defund the police or remove the police crime will grow in your communities and robbery

    Inviting homeless people to come to your area and giving away free stuff and food results in failure. I hope these leftists realize how ridiculous their ideology had become.
    Good policing is an immune response to illness. Illnesses spread when their is no immune system.

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    As you alluded in your other thread, a right-wing CHAZ is called a WACO.

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    Obviously, there are some issues here. Within the CHAZ you have about 500 residences, people who might not want to be part of the CHAZ. You also have property owners who are probably a little worried — and for good reason.
    If a person doesn’t believe in property rights or personal property at all, then it’s just a big party.

    And let’s not forget that the residents and property owners still must pay taxes to the city, state and Feds (for basic things like Police protection), while the “protesters” redecorate their neighborhood and charge them protection money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    If a person doesn’t believe in property rights or personal property at all, then it’s just a big party.

    And let’s not forget that the residents and property owners still must pay taxes to the city, state and Feds (for basic things like Police protection), while the “protesters” redecorate their neighborhood and charge them protection money.
    They are stuck behind enemy lines so to speak.
    There are only two things we should fight for.
    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

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    We demand the City of Seattle and State of Washington remove any and all monuments dedicated to historical figures of the Confederacy, whose treasonous attempts to build an America with slavery as a permanent fixture were an affront to the human race.
    How is what CHAZ is doing any different, in principle?
    There are only two things we should fight for.
    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    If a person doesn’t believe in property rights or personal property at all, then it’s just a big party.

    And let’s not forget that the residents and property owners still must pay taxes to the city, state and Feds (for basic things like Police protection), while the “protesters” redecorate their neighborhood and charge them protection money.
    If you dont contribute you dont get to eat.

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    This is what I've been saying. Just give them a piece of public land somewhere and let them be. Once their communist utopian experiment failed, and it will fail QUICKLY... they are not allowed back for reintegration into society and are treated as illegals.

    Once they run out of money and create no value, they will no longer be able to import anything and all of the kids will just go back to their parents homes to play video games and plotting riots.

    Same goes for all the CHAZ to be's. LA, Chicago, Baltimore, SF, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    This is what I've been saying. Just give them a piece of public land somewhere and let them be. Once their communist utopian experiment failed, and it will fail QUICKLY... they are not allowed back for reintegration into society and are treated as illegals.

    Once they run out of money and create no value, they will no longer be able to import anything and all of the kids will just go back to their parents homes to play video games and plotting riots.

    Same goes for all the CHAZ to be's. LA, Chicago, Baltimore, SF, etc...
    If they want land they can $#@!ing pay for it. This land was paid for with the blood of patriots. If they dont like it they dont have to live here.

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    I am waiting to see what they do for basic sanitation. I sure hope they don't expect the city of Seattle to remove their trash for free now that they are Autonomous. These fools will learn some valuable lessons if they are allowed to continue.

    I notice that they have people claiming leadership roles, but of course they weren't elected. Welcome to warlord governance.
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    City of Seattle gave them their "autonomous region"

    LOL

    funny how first covid case and now this in WA state

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    Imagine if those who believe in freedom and liberty did this. They would be vilified and slandered 24/7.
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    Seattle going tribal & is partying it up

    Having your own controlled area is interesting to say the least

    Lot of right leaning media is trying to rile base up on this story but I’m not taking any rage baiting reaction here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I am waiting to see what they do for basic sanitation. I sure hope they don't expect the city of Seattle to remove their trash for free now that they are Autonomous. These fools will learn some valuable lessons if they are allowed to continue.

    I notice that they have people claiming leadership roles, but of course they weren't elected. Welcome to warlord governance.
    Garbage is already piling up. Would guess the feces is piling up too in all of the alleys. Suppose they go home to bath, if they bath.
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    Socialists....

    "Tear down all the confederate monuments -secession is treason!"

    also socialists...

    "LeTs CrEaTe An AuToNoMoUs ZoNe."

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    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    Socialists....

    "Tear down all the confederate monuments -secession is treason!"

    also socialists...

    "LeTs CrEaTe An AuToNoMoUs ZoNe."
    You a Trump supporter?



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