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    The Bible Won’t Save Us, Only Brute Force Will

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    By Cliff Kincaid|June 3rd, 2020

    President Trump emerged from his White House bunker on Monday night to give a short speech and then travel to a burned-out church just a block away. He made sure that the police and the military cleared a path for him. Then he held up a Bible. He should have held up a copy of the Constitution, with the Second Amendment highlighted in red.

    The government won’t save you or your property. You have to save yourself.

    Millions of Americans don’t have personal body guards, in the form of the Secret Service, and can’t call on the military to use pepper spray and tear gas against rioters down the street.

    In the middle of a civil war, Trump holds up a Bible, as if it can repel invaders that vandalized some of our nation’s greatest monuments in Washington, D.C. It was too late. The damage was done.

    Trump promised to get tough, but that night the communists were out in force again in many different cities.

    Tucker Carlson of Fox News gave an eloquent speech on Monday night, taking “conservative” leaders to task, such as Mike Pence, Nikki Haley and Kay Coles James of the Heritage Foundation, for feeding the fires of rage and failing to advocate action to take out the killers on our streets.

    He didn’t spare Trump, saying, “For people who voted for Donald Trump, who support his policies, who have defended him for years against the most absurd kinds of slander, this was a distressing moment.”

    What is it going to take for Trump to realize that the liberal mayors and governors don’t want the riots to stop?

    “Pride Was a Riot” was the title of an email sent out on Monday by the LGBTQ Victory Fund, dedicated to making sexual perversion mainstream and getting trans candidates elected. The term “pride” now refers to homosexuals demanding their rights, even rioting to do so. The group said, “…remember that the first Pride was a riot. The modern LGBTQ civil rights movement was born when Black and Brown trans women had enough.”

    As noted by Carlson, the Fairfax County Democratic Committee in Virginia had released a statement that “Riots are an integral part of this country’s march towards progress.” The rest of the statement was that “When President Obama included the Stonewall Riots in his 2nd inaugural, he didn’t make that decision lightly.”

    Barack Hussein Obama celebrated the 1969 homosexual riots at a seedy Mafia-run bar known as the Stonewall Inn in New York City. Several police officers trying to enforce the law at the sleazy establishment were injured by violent homosexuals.

    Obama, whose childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a bi-sexual drug-using communist, said that “…the riots at Stonewall gave way to protests, and protests gave way to a movement, and the movement gave way to a transformation that continues to this day.” They attacked the police and destroyed property. That’s what’s going on now.

    So-called “Pride” is in fact a template for the George Floyd riots.

    Perhaps the reason Trump hasn’t yet deployed “dominating” force against the rioters and looters is that too many in the Armed Forces and the police forces of the United States are on the other side of this civil war. Just like our intelligence community, those who are supposed to defend us have been infiltrated.

    If it were not for the coronavirus, the Pentagon would be physically hosting another “Gay Pride Month” event this month. Which means that ordinary Americans can’t depend on our military or the police to defend us. We certainly can’t depend on governors and mayors.

    Prior to his photo-op with the Bible at the burned-out church, Trump gave a few remarks, such as that he will defend the Second Amendment. “I am mobilizing all available federal resources — civilian and military — to stop the rioting and looting, to end the destruction and arson, and to protect the rights of law-abiding Americans, including your Second Amendment rights,” he said.

    Those are nice words. But Trump should have gone further, encouraging people to arm themselves and quickly.

    Dr. Miguel A. Faria told this columnist, “The destructive riots and looting in Minneapolis, including the burning down of a police station, underscore the need for citizens to be prepare to protect their businesses, homes, and families. Rioters are marauding and destructive thugs who will use any pretext to destroy, rob, and even kill defenseless people. The fact is police cannot be everywhere to protect us. As these violent riots demonstrate, they cannot even protect their own police station! For the protection of businesses as well as home defense, especially during any national emergency, the only reliable method is the firearm, the great equalizer!”

    His recently released book, America, Guns, and Freedom: A Journey Into Politics and the Public Health & Gun Control Movements, is an exhaustive look at the forces that are determined to disarm the citizens of America. One of his many insights concerns how liberal politicians and the public health establishment work together to deny our constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

    We are seeing some strange things in America. The same governors and mayors who locked down law-abiding citizens during coronavirus are now refusing to protect them and their businesses against looters and rioters.

    Facing a civil war that is accelerating, Trump cleared the streets around his house and walked to a church to hold up a Bible. That’s not good enough.



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    Article lost me when they called this a civil war. How dramatic. Shows just how pussy everyone is when a bunch of thugs breaking into shoe stores is considered a civil war.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."

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    Really not sure what this guy is trying to say, it rambles all over the place. It's like he's playing mad libs and had to somehow get from bibles to Trump to gay pride to Obama. A full bingo card of meme arguments.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Really not sure what this guy is trying to say, it rambles all over the place. It's like he's playing mad libs and had to somehow get from bibles to Trump to gay pride to Obama. A full bingo card of meme arguments.
    Yah, valid point...I hesitated posting it because of that.

    Here's what I'm trying to say:

    President Trump emerged from his White House bunker on Monday night to give a short speech and then travel to a burned-out church just a block away. He made sure that the police and the military cleared a path for him. Then he held up a Bible. He should have held up a copy of the Constitution, with the Second Amendment highlighted in red.

    The government won’t save you or your property. You have to save yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Here's what I'm trying to say:
    I agree with that. However, he seems to leap from that to an entirely different concept:

    Perhaps the reason Trump hasn’t yet deployed “dominating” force against the rioters and looters is that too many in the Armed Forces and the police forces of the United States are on the other side of this civil war. Just like our intelligence community, those who are supposed to defend us have been infiltrated.

    ...

    Facing a civil war that is accelerating, Trump cleared the streets around his house and walked to a church to hold up a Bible. That’s not good enough.
    It seems to me that he's being incoherent, simultaneously saying that people need to defend themselves and also the federal government needs to "dominate" the citizenry.

    He needs to decide between daddy worship and self sufficiency.
    Last edited by TheCount; 06-04-2020 at 12:19 PM.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

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    Trump should have held up an AR15.

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    "The Bible Won’t Save Us, Only Brute Force Will"

    The LORD helps them who help themselves but GOD is our only hope.
    We must not put our trust in the arm of man at the expense of faith in GOD.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    "The Bible Won’t Save Us, Only Brute Force Will"

    The LORD helps them who help themselves but GOD is our only hope.
    We must not put our trust in the arm of man at the expense of faith in GOD.
    Luke 22:36

    Then Jesus said unto them, 'But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.'

    Ecclesiastes 3:1

    “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:”

    Ecclesiastes 3:8

    “A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.”

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    Psalms 118:6
    “The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?”

    Hebrews 13:6 -
    "So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me."

    Psalms 56:4 -
    "In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me. "

    Psalms 56:9 -
    "When I cry unto thee, then shall mine enemies turn back: this I know; for God is for me"

    Psalms 56:11 -
    "In God have I put my trust: I will not be afraid what man can do unto me."

    Romans 8:31 -
    "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? "
    Proverbs 29:18
    "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

    Hosea 4:6
    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Luke 22:36

    Then Jesus said unto them, 'But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.'

    Ecclesiastes 3:1

    “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:”

    Ecclesiastes 3:8

    “A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.”
    Absolutely, both are needed at this time.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Psalms 118:6
    “The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?”

    Hebrews 13:6 -
    "So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me."

    Psalms 56:4 -
    "In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me. "

    Psalms 56:9 -
    "When I cry unto thee, then shall mine enemies turn back: this I know; for God is for me"

    Psalms 56:11 -
    "In God have I put my trust: I will not be afraid what man can do unto me."

    Romans 8:31 -
    "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? "
    2 Kings Chapter 6
    15 And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do?
    16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them.
    17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Trump should have held up an AR15.
    Trump's pic in front of St. Johns Church is a signal that he's a Knight of Malta and is pushing the Vatican's NWO plan. He's a Jesuit. Look up the Jesuit Oath.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Trump's pic in front of St. Johns Church is a signal that he's a Knight of Malta and is pushing the Vatican's NWO plan. He's a Jesuit. Look up the Jesuit Oath.
    Can you prove that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    Article lost me when they called this a civil war. How dramatic. Shows just how pussy everyone is when a bunch of thugs breaking into shoe stores is considered a civil war.
    Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of someone hoping for a civil war; there's plenty of that on both sides at the moment.

    The culture warriors of the right call it "boogaloo" (no, not after that Sunny episode); their opponents don't have a snazzy name, AFAIK.

    Anyway, they're all going to be disappointed, at least for a good long time.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of someone hoping for a civil war; there's plenty of that on both sides at the moment.

    The culture warriors of the right call it "boogaloo" (no, not after that Sunny episode); their opponents don't have a snazzy name, AFAIK.

    Anyway, they're all going to be disappointed, at least for a good long time.
    Its what new normal was all about. People don't like change so if its "normal" its not a change.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Can you prove that?
    There's plenty of YT videos that cover Trump's Jesuit past in detail if you search. St. John is the patron saint of the Knights of Malta. Has Donald ever come out and claimed being a Knight of Malta? No, and none of them do in modern times but they do broadcast it to each other in symbolic ways, such as a photo op with a bible in front of St. John's church during protests and riots, which the Jesuit Oath calls for creating upheaval in nations.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    There's plenty of YT videos that cover Trump's Jesuit past in detail if you search. St. John is the patron saint of the Knights of Malta. Has Donald ever come out and claimed being a Knight of Malta? No, and none of them do in modern times but they do broadcast it to each other in symbolic ways, such as a photo op with a bible in front of St. John's church during protests and riots, which the Jesuit Oath calls for creating upheaval in nations.
    In 1975, I was gifted a Bible and took a picture in front of the Church I attended. I am not with the Knight's of Malta.
    Proverbs 29:18
    "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

    Hosea 4:6
    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    There's plenty of YT videos that cover Trump's Jesuit past in detail if you search. St. John is the patron saint of the Knights of Malta. Has Donald ever come out and claimed being a Knight of Malta? No, and none of them do in modern times but they do broadcast it to each other in symbolic ways, such as a photo op with a bible in front of St. John's church during protests and riots, which the Jesuit Oath calls for creating upheaval in nations.
    Do you have any good ones to link to? Google owns YT, as I am sure you know, so the searches are mostly rigged.

    I only found one so far which doesn't have a ton of views and was recorded just after the 2016 elections:



    His basic premise is that because Trump attended Fordham University, which is a Jesuit school, that he is "Jesuit" trained. He then shows pictures of Hillary and Trump together with Catholic big names, like Timothy Dolan.
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
    (1 John 4:18)

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    In 1975, I was gifted a Bible and took a picture in front of the Church I attended. I am not with the Knight's of Malta.
    And is your church named for their patron saint? No? Well, then?
    'I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag.'--Molly Ivins

    'Well, you can get no more liberty than you give.'--Will Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    Do you have any good ones to link to? Google owns YT, as I am sure you know, so the searches are mostly rigged.

    I only found one so far which doesn't have a ton of views and was recorded just after the 2016 elections:



    His basic premise is that because Trump attended Fordham University, which is a Jesuit school, that he is "Jesuit" trained. He then shows pictures of Hillary and Trump together with Catholic big names, like Timothy Dolan.
    I'll have to look around. Of course it's a conclusion based on a large body of evidence such as what is probably in that video but if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, surrounds itself with other ducks and follows the sworn oaths of a duck, it's a duck.

    Trump's kids went to Jesuit schools. Trump's administration is full of GWB Skull and Bones retreads (S&B is a Jesuit fraternity), hires Jesuits onto SCOTUS (Kav and Gorsuch), etc.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And is your church named for their patron saint? No? Well, then?
    My church is non-denominational since it means to divide. No patron saints, just King of King's and Lord of Lord's.
    Proverbs 29:18
    "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

    Hosea 4:6
    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    Good, detailed vid - 1hr long


    also good, ties some things together
    Last edited by devil21; 06-07-2020 at 02:47 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

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    Worth mentioning is that June 24th is the Catholic holiday, the Feast of St. John aka St. John's Day, which celebrates the birthday of John the Baptist. Trump taking a random photo in front of St. John's Church in June holding up a bible?


    Usually, a saint's feast day is celebrated on the day that the saint died. St. John along with the Virgin Mary {d21: aka Isis, Semiramis, etc) are the only two saints whose birthdays are celebrated.

    St. John's death (August 29th) is also marked by Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches.


    Probably nothing...
    Last edited by devil21; 06-08-2020 at 03:20 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.



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