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    The Ultimate Misdirection, and America Fell Hook, Line and Sinker

    In all of the media frenzy and political obsession over the murder of George Floyd, and the ensuing protests, riots, and destruction, we have forgotten to ask the most basic question. What are we missing? A skeptic will always be alert for a misdirection, a distraction from something else. Is there something important that is being squelched?

    If we look at recent history, the misdirection becomes perfectly clear. This is an all-out effort by the media and the Democrats to protect Barrack Obama and the highest level members of his Administration. Obamagate was breaking wide open, and the Democrat machine was terrified that AG Bill Barr and his investigators might take real action with indictments and prosecutions. In reality, there is probably a small chance of that happening, but even a chance was too much, and enough to go into full panic mode.

    The media, Democrat governors and their allies in the CDC and WHO had almost played out the COVID-19 distraction. It was falling apart at the seams, and the governors were having a hard time justifying the destruction of the economy for no apparent logical reason.

    With COVID-19 breaking down, attention was ready to turn to Obamagate. In early May, revelations were coming out that officials at the Obama Whitehouse had all been intimately involved in the FISA abuse and illegal political spying.

    Former President Obama was so nervous that he came out of retirement and "pointedly criticized the Trump administration on a range of issues". Such criticism of a sitting President from an ex-President is unusual, and a breach of informal protocol. It must have been urgent and important.

    And then the catalyst occurred. A tragedy not to be wasted. George Floyd was killed by the Police, and there was disturbing video of him pleading for his life to go along with it. This was the break they were looking for. It was time for the mainstream media to push the outrage every day, all day. With the right amount of coverage, incitement and encouragement, they could turn this into the greatest misdirection of all time. Could it be drawn out long enough, or cause enough havoc, to last all the way through to the election?

    But the media was not alone. The Democrat Governors and Mayors had proven their willingness to engage in destruction of their states for a greater cause. Shutting down their economies and placing the blame on Trump was already perfectly acceptable. The next sacrifice would be just as great.

    All that was left to do was to release the dogs of Antifa. They were well-rehearsed, coordinated, and ready to go to work. Under the cover of honest protesters, they could engage in mayhem, and set fires to every tinderbox they could find. And they could do it nationwide, but they couldn't do it alone.

    Now was the time for Democrat Governors and Mayors to do their part. It has been a long time in the making, but they had already laid the groundwork. Stopping riots and looting had already become politically incorrect. It was common in these cities and states for mass looting to occur, with no response, no accountability, no prosecutions.

    With everyone practiced and rehearsed, it was time to pull the trigger. The media was ready to incite. The Governors and Mayors were ready to stand down. And Antifa was ready to rock.

    It was to be the ultimate misdirection, and America fell, hook, line and sinker.
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    Wow. The pieces fit.
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    Oh, sure. They aren't destroying the economy on purpose to print and steal trillions before the inevitable hyperinflation leaves the nation no wealth to purloin and they have to flee to Dubai to escape being lynched. It's clearly all a partisan game to protect Obama.
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    While I don't discount the idea that all this unrest is some sort of FUD, I don't think it was for Obama. Nobody but hardcore conservative neocons care about this obamagate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh, sure. They aren't destroying the economy on purpose to print and steal trillions before the inevitable hyperinflation leaves the nation no wealth to purloin and they have to flee to Dubai to escape being lynched. It's clearly all a partisan game to protect Obama.
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    Are we still going to go with the "Obama is nervous about investigations" meme? After all these years?
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    And Hitlery. Hitlery is stocking up on silk orange jumpsuits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh, sure. They aren't destroying the economy on purpose to print and steal trillions before the inevitable hyperinflation leaves the nation no wealth to purloin and they have to flee to Dubai to escape being lynched. It's clearly all a partisan game to protect Obama.
    One does not exclude the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    One does not exclude the other.
    I suppose not. But one surely outweighs the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    While I don't discount the idea that all this unrest is some sort of FUD, I don't think it was for Obama. Nobody but hardcore conservative neocons care about this obamagate.
    Neocons are never Trumpers, and don't want to investigate Obama. And Obama wouldn't be the only player to go down (if he did at all). As a matter of fact, he would probably be safe. But people close to him might. Part of the point is that even the slightest possibility is enough to drive them into panic mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Are we still going to go with the "Obama is nervous about investigations" meme? After all these years?
    Posted about it about a month ago. But you know that.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...etting-Nervous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    In all of the media frenzy and political obsession over the murder of George Floyd, and the ensuing protests, riots, and destruction, we have forgotten to ask the most basic question. What are we missing? A skeptic will always be alert for a misdirection, a distraction from something else. Is there something important that is being squelched?

    It was to be the ultimate misdirection, and America fell, hook, line and sinker.


    I was thinking this yesterday. Obamagate was blowing up, Trump was naming Obama on twitter and in interviews on a daily basis.

    and all of a sudden....the biggest distraction of them all.

    The craziest part is that both floyd and the kill officer both worked at the same night club and shared shifts. They are also apparently both porn stars (actors)

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/...floyd_a_setup/

    George Floyd - A setup?
    These officers were involved with something, I’m not sure exactly what, but something is just not adding up. I think there is at the very least the “possibility”, that this was a filmed public execution of a black man by a white cop, with the purpose of creating racial tensions and driving a wedge in the growing group of anti deep state sentiment from comon people, that have already been psychologically traumatized by Covid 19 fears. Historically, in election years and in politically contested areas or in groups, racial or gun violence incidents are becoming common place. Considering the rising approval rating of President Trump in the black community, an event like this was unfortunately “Predictable” Consider these points and contrast them to every other police brutality incident you've ever seen. The filmed portion of the incident was about 10 minutes long. In that amount of time, three officers are holding one handcuffed man down. You only know that because of the pictures taken from across the street. You can't see the other two officers in the video because they are behind the vehicle. During 8 minutes of the entire video, the officer has his knee on George Floyd's neck, which is not taught or approved by any law enforcement agency. Additionally, other than the Asian officer speaking occasionally to the crowd of bystanders, there is no communication from any of the officers to Mr. Floyd. No talking, no shouting. When have you ever seen a police brutality video without police shouting? Additionally, the police had no goal. They weren't trying to subdue him for arrest, he was already handcuffed and all they needed to do, was place him in the back of the car. There is no plausible explanation for taking him to the ground and having three men on top of a handcuffed man, a knee placed on his neck. Mr. Floyd presented no threat and was not resisting. The only goal that there appeared to be was exactly what happened: “To be filmed brutally killing a black man”. Think about this, these officers did not care about being filmed, in fact the officer stared into the camera with soulless eyes and an emotionless face, reminiscent of an assassin, as he knowingly killed an American Citizen. None of the officers spoke among themselves or did they speak to Mr. Floyd. They did not respond to his pleas for life. They just sat and kneeled on him until he was passed out and then waited an additional 4 minutes after Mr. Floyd lost consciousness to ensure that Mr. Floyd was dead and could not be revived. The bystanders are verbally communicating to the officers, that he isn't breathing. Unlike any other similar incident, you never see the officers getting on police radios. You never see or hear them calling dispatch for backup. No other police units arrive on the scene and strangely enough, the crowd does not seem to grow either. The scene does not end until an ambulance arrives and they unceremoniously flop him on a gurney. At no point does anyone in a uniform ever check his vitals. “As if they aren't remotely curious about the situation they are in” BTW. who called the ambulance and for what reason? Because if the reason was that Mr. Floyd was having a medical issue, they wouldn't have still been crushing his neck. Shortly after the video went viral, a fake Facebook page supposedly belonging to the officer, at the center of the murder appears and pictures are uploaded that say "Stand your Ground" and "Trump 2020". A picture of the cop with a red ball cap that says "Make America White Again". A friends list populated with obvious sock accounts and people clearly not his friends. This is the same kind of fake Facebook stunt that happened with a group made to look like support for the men involved with the Ahmed Aubrey case. Is it mere coincidence that this happens the week after “race” becomes a major political issue after the Biden "You ain't Black" gaffe, started to threaten the black vote the Democrats so desperately count on? Additionally, there is substantial video evidence to arrest at least one officer now. Why would the local authorities not charge him immediately, unless there was a political advantage not to! Is it mere coincidence that this happens right about the exact moment the COVID-19 fear campaign falls apart, and after it has psychologically traumatized the entire country and got everyone at each other's throats and suicide attempts are spiking? Is it mere coincidence that this happens after the Auhmed Aubrey case... Which somehow eluded the mainstream media completely until two whole months after he was killed? When has that ever happened? Timing issue? Is it mere coincidence that Supreme Race Baiter Obama was making videos a couple weeks ago connecting COVID with "Systemic Racism"? FINALLY... this entire scene plays out with the cop car and license plate that says "POLICE". The plate was perfectly framed for maximum subliminal impact. This also means he was literally just 1 foot away from the back seat of the police car and these cops thought it was smarter to kill a black man on camera, than to pick him up and move him one foot into the back of the police car.
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    I think the riots have to do with that French cartoonist Hebdo

    Or was it "the innocence of muslims" YouTube video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    I think the riots have to do with that French cartoonist Hebdo
    Clearly, LOL.

    Someone is mighty desperate to keep Americans partisan. And I think his name is Soros.

    Can't blame him. It lets half the criminals on D.C. off the hook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    I was thinking this yesterday. Obamagate was blowing up, Trump was naming Obama on twitter and in interviews on a daily basis.

    and all of a sudden....the biggest distraction of them all.

    The craziest part is that both floyd and the kill officer both worked at the same night club and shared shifts. They are also apparently both porn stars (actors)

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/...floyd_a_setup/
    Weird, I thought it was ridiculous, but Floyd did do some porn, couldn't find anything on the cop... and yes, I verified this info, it was real porn.

    FJB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Posted about it about a month ago. But you know that.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...etting-Nervous
    I don't see how that's an answer to my question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    In all of the media frenzy and political obsession over the murder of George Floyd, and the ensuing protests, riots, and destruction, we have forgotten to ask the most basic question. What are we missing?
    I can't speak for anyone but myself. I have not forgotten a damned thing. "What's wrong with this picture?" and "what are Theye up to behind our backs?" have escaped my keyboard more times in the past couple months and especially the past week than I can count. They are centrally significant queries.

    A skeptic will always be alert for a misdirection, a distraction from something else. Is there something important that is being squelched?
    Most likely, yes, given Theye cleave to what we now commonly call the "Emmanuel doctrine", after that douchePig Rahm and his blathering slip about never letting a good crisis go to waste.

    If we look at recent history, the misdirection becomes perfectly clear. This is an all-out effort by the media and the Democrats to protect Barrack Obama and the highest level members of his Administration. Obamagate was breaking wide open, and the Democrat machine was terrified that AG Bill Barr and his investigators might take real action with indictments and prosecutions. In reality, there is probably a small chance of that happening, but even a chance was too much, and enough to go into full panic mode.
    This is certainly plausible - start burning cities and people will forget about this. But what about this: could it not be a test case by Themme to see whether we are sufficiently softened up such that they can then mount a full-scale assault on our rights or even our physical beings? Before scoffing, consider the current reality: masses of hoods from sea to shining sea are setting cities on fire as the rest sit idly. Do not make the mistake of believing that this has escaped Theire notice.

    The media, Democrat governors and their allies in the CDC and WHO had almost played out the COVID-19 distraction. It was falling apart at the seams, and the governors were having a hard time justifying the destruction of the economy for no apparent logical reason.
    Perhaps, and yet the lockdown continues AND we have rioting and looting on a mass scale, all while Americans sit idly. So sorry, but we should be out, well armed, organized, and blasting the ghosts out of every body we find committing felonious acts, PERIOD. Had we started that from day one, this $#@!baggery would have been nipped cleanly in no time at all. But once again, Americans fail themselves in the most shameful and despicable way, with "government" following suit.

    With COVID-19 breaking down, attention was ready to turn to Obamagate. In early May, revelations were coming out that officials at the Obama Whitehouse had all been intimately involved in the FISA abuse and illegal political spying.
    And once again the ultimate fault lies with US. The media will media; it's what they DO. They lie, bull$#@!, and ignore in whatever manner and measure they deem will help their cause du jour. Hell, we dumbass Americans don't have enough sense and self-control to turn off our fracking televisions, how in hell is anyone to expect we will get it up for something important?

    Former President Obama was so nervous that he came out of retirement and "pointedly criticized the Trump administration on a range of issues". Such criticism of a sitting President from an ex-President is unusual, and a breach of informal protocol. It must have been urgent and important.
    Or, the Democrats don't give a patootie about Obama, but rather smell blood in the water - Trump's blood - and are going for the gusto. I say this because let us not forget the Democrats are the party of the Klan. Obama, being a half-breed negro, is clearly expendable. I don't think they are moving to defend Obama per sé, but at best to defend him in order to defend themselves. I almost think the Democrats would otherwise just as soon be done with Obama, given the very poor results he brought to the table for Themme. We could easily say that Obama pooched everything for them.

    And then the catalyst occurred. A tragedy not to be wasted. George Floyd was killed by the Police, and there was disturbing video of him pleading for his life to go along with it. This was the break they were looking for. It was time for the mainstream media to push the outrage every day, all day. With the right amount of coverage, incitement and encouragement, they could turn this into the greatest misdirection of all time. Could it be drawn out long enough, or cause enough havoc, to last all the way through to the election?
    All well plausible, but I'm thinking the blood in the water thesis may actually lie closer to the truth.

    But the media was not alone. The Democrat Governors and Mayors had proven their willingness to engage in destruction of their states for a greater cause. Shutting down their economies and placing the blame on Trump was already perfectly acceptable. The next sacrifice would be just as great.
    Of course. After all, wrecked economies don't have all that much adverse effect on the very wealthy. Theye eat caviar and champagne while the rest "eat cake". These are not human beings in any meaningful sense. They are simulacra; soulless zombie sociopaths who'd as soon see millions of us die.

    Seriously pal, I am thinking something far larger is happening than keeping Bammy's Michelle-wallowed sphincter out of federal prison. You said it yourself - a "greater cause". Hell, they'd probably not mind lynching Obama themselves... with popcorn and cocktails.

    All that was left to do was to release the dogs of Antifa. They were well-rehearsed, coordinated, and ready to go to work. Under the cover of honest protesters, they could engage in mayhem, and set fires to every tinderbox they could find. And they could do it nationwide, but they couldn't do it alone.

    Now was the time for Democrat Governors and Mayors to do their part. It has been a long time in the making, but they had already laid the groundwork. Stopping riots and looting had already become politically incorrect. It was common in these cities and states for mass looting to occur, with no response, no accountability, no prosecutions.

    With everyone practiced and rehearsed, it was time to pull the trigger. The media was ready to incite. The Governors and Mayors were ready to stand down. And Antifa was ready to rock.
    And so, apparently, were we. As I have written previously, we should have been out there killing anyone and everyone raising a brick-laden or coctail-laden hand to property that was not theirs to destroy. Kill a couple hundreds of these and the problem would have stopped in a jiffy. They are, after all, cowards at the bottom of it all.

    It was to be the ultimate misdirection, and America fell, hook, line and sinker.
    Whatever it was/is, I agree that America fell for it. We have disgraced and dishonored ourselves, thus far. We may redeem ourselves yet, but my confidence in that outcome is very low.

    As it now stands, I see Themme springing the trap and Americans folding like cheap suits. Honestly, if Theye come out and just dispense with all pretense, I am now inclined to believe that we will do next to nothing to stop it. It would seem that Theye are on the cusp of a global victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh, sure. They aren't destroying the economy on purpose to print and steal trillions before the inevitable hyperinflation leaves the nation no wealth to purloin and they have to flee to Dubai to escape being lynched. It's clearly all a partisan game to protect Obama.
    I'm inclined to be with you on this one. The party of the Klan would as soon lynch the halfbreed president themselves.

    I'd not considered the trillions aspect - plausible, but is it likely? The only way those trillions are any good is if this economy DOESN'T collapse. Otherwise, the purchasing power falls to near-zero. No sir, Theye need this land and its economy to continue on its merry merry, if the money is what interests them as you suggest.

    This is far bigger than that, I suspect. I'm thinking end-game here. I see naught but weakness in the mean American as They screw him in his exit-vent time and again, no outrage apparently enough to drive him to sense and self-respect. It feels like we're being sized up for oomph, and when we prove to have none, Theye will strike with wild ferocity, perhaps through legal channels, that will come out of nowhere, especially if Trump is gone, and we will do absolutely nothing to stop them. We will be well-$#@!ed, not having been afforded the courtesy of a kiss, or K-Y. We will then know how it feels every night to be Obama at the hands of that monster tranny, rearing up from behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Nobody but hardcore conservative neocons care about this obamagate.
    Au contraire, mon ami. I am not a conservative. I am neither a neocon. I care. I want Obama hung by his neck until he is very much dead. I seek the same fate for everyone connected to him, politically, Lynch, Jarret, Holder, Rice, and so on down the list of subhuman misery.
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    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Or, the Democrats don't give a patootie about Obama, but rather smell blood in the water - Trump's blood - and are going for the gusto. I say this because let us not forget the Democrats are the party of the Klan. Obama, being a half-breed negro, is clearly expendable. I don't think they are moving to defend Obama per sé, but at best to defend him in order to defend themselves. I almost think the Democrats would otherwise just as soon be done with Obama, given the very poor results he brought to the table for Themme. We could easily say that Obama pooched everything for them.
    This. I guess the Trump-as-Messiah crowd are buying this because they need to cling to the quaint notion that these figureheads are important and capable. If the shadow government is willing to destroy the nation to protect Obama, then maybe just maybe, Trump might be capable of fixing something for them.

    Otherwise they bought a bill of goods. Worse, they might have to admit that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    I'd not considered the trillions aspect - plausible, but is it likely? The only way those trillions are any good is if this economy DOESN'T collapse. Otherwise, the purchasing power falls to near-zero. No sir, Theye need this land and its economy to continue on its merry merry, if the money is what interests them as you suggest.

    This is far bigger than that, I suspect. I'm thinking end-game here. I see naught but weakness in the mean American as They screw him in his exit-vent time and again, no outrage apparently enough to drive him to sense and self-respect. It feels like we're being sized up for oomph, and when we prove to have none, Theye will strike with wild ferocity, perhaps through legal channels, that will come out of nowhere, especially if Trump is gone, and we will do absolutely nothing to stop them. We will be well-$#@!ed, not having been afforded the courtesy of a kiss, or K-Y. We will then know how it feels every night to be Obama at the hands of that monster tranny, rearing up from behind.
    Well, the end of the FRN was looming even without this sabotage. That leaves them nothing to lose. And those freshly printed trillions will last just long enough to buy gold before they shrink like wet wool in a hot dryer.

    Yes, they'd love to hoodwink us into buying their new spy currency and being their slaves. But they understand the concept of hedging their bets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    This. I guess the Trump-as-Messiah crowd are buying this because they need to cling to the quaint notion that these figureheads are important and capable. If the shadow government is willing to destroy the nation to protect Obama, then maybe just maybe, Trump might be capable of fixing something for them.

    Otherwise they bought a bill of goods. Worse, they might have to admit that.

    Trump hasn't been all bad, and we should recall what life with Hillary would have been like.

    That said, Trump stands to pooch in BIG fashion if he invokes Insurrection. This would give Themme all the ammo they need to bury him. This move is a huge mistake. As I have written elsewhere, the right move would be to call up the unorganized militia - call them to arms and to defend our fellows with deadly force, if called for.

    He could do this with an EO. He should also memo the various states that anyone bringing false charges against any militiaman or other American defending against the looters, will themselves face the most stern punishments. All such cases should come up for federal review with an eye toward doling out life sentences with no parole to everyone not toeing the constitutional line on this one.

    Sadly, he will not do it. No idea whether it is because he just doesn't think that way or because he has to be in charge. Calling in the army will put a huge dent in my opinion of Trump. This is a situation where "government" should stay alert, but neutral until the people prove they are incapable of handling the issue.

    A few hundred looters shot and the rest will go home in short order.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Is it part of Obama's secret plan to have the Communist Chinese usurp power in Hong Kong and Taiwan? The corporations sold us out giving China the majority of our means of production, and our technology. To save a buck.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    Is it part of Obama's secret plan to have the Communist Chinese usurp power in Hong Kong..?
    You think Obama was maneuvering British foreign affairs in 1997?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    ...I don't think they are moving to defend Obama per sé, but at best to defend him in order to defend themselves...
    No disagreement there. Use of Obamagate and identifying Obama is simply symbolic for the entire machine that surrounded him. Keeps it simple. The entire rat's nest is implied, and mentioned:

    This is an all-out effort by the media and the Democrats to protect Barrack Obama and the highest level members of his Administration
    If the web of players was seriously unwound, the number of people who could legitimately be prosecuted would be quite long, including the many upper level FBI members of the plot. The point being that any level of uncertainty is not acceptable to these people.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Well, the end of the FRN was looming even without this sabotage. That leaves them nothing to lose. And those freshly printed trillions will last just long enough to buy gold before they shrink like wet wool in a hot dryer.

    Yes, they'd love to hoodwink us into buying their new spy currency and being their slaves. But they understand the concept of hedging their bets.
    You can only put so much into a short and concise post, but yes, the monetary and budget issues are also integral.

    What else are we distracted from? We haven't heard anything lately about the next Pelosi/MCConnell relief/stimulus bill. Is it dropped, or is it being worked on furiously right now, with every special interest under the sun adding their presents to Santa's Christmas list?

    And motivations are varied too. When Hollywood makes a movie filled with political and social propaganda, they also hope to make a lot of money, maybe an Oscar. Likewise, when the mainstream "news" covers and and incites this 24x7, in addition to political motivations, there is the increase in viewers. They love to see those ratings jump.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  31. #27
    Some people have been preparing for a War they really don't want.
    And Some people have been provoking a War they are unprepared for..

    And a Whole lot have been lost in blissful distractions and are going to get caught in the middle without having a clue.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  32. #28
    The MSM news outlets are still covering riot porn non-stop.

    Meanwhile the Senate Rosenstein hearings are taking place, without even a mention on the news (as far as I could find). Usually, this type of hearing would be televised live on some channel. How much Russiagate coverage did we endure from all media outlets? Such a hearing would have been live on all of the main news channels, if not pre-empting network daytime television.


    https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/statu...18337428979712
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  33. #29
    LOL. It doesn't get any better than this. A key player in the at-risk cabal essentially just Tweeted "move along, nothing to see here".

    Ben, this is the seventh such investigation: IG Horowitz (twice), HOGR/House Judiciary, John Huber, SSCI, Durham (I presume), and now Senate Judiciary. Is this really the most important issue on the Senate's docket right now? Really?

    https://twitter.com/NatSecLisa/statu...54509823930369
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  34. #30

    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1268272377772814337
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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