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    Exclamation Poll: 78 % of Americans say they are willing to pay more to avoid Chinese goods

    Good!

    Slap a thirty percent import tariff on all Chinese goods, and reduce US based manufacturing taxes by double that amount.

    Sounds like the America people are finally seeing the light.


    Americans Are Giving Made-in-China the Cold Shoulder

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ntent=business

    New poll shows 40% won’t buy Made-in-China products

    By Brendan Murray

    May 17, 2020, 8:00 AM EDT

    The poll also found:

    55% don’t think China can be trusted to follow through on its trade-deal commitments signed in January to buy more U.S. products
    78% percent said they’d be willing to pay more for products if the company that made them moved manufacturing out of China
    66% said they favor raising import restrictions over the pursuit of free-trade deals as a better way to boost the U.S. economy



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    Avoid them when I can... not always possible tho.


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    This is a good sign.

    I remember well Peter Schiff talking over 10 years ago about how the U.S. needs to get back to manufacturing. Say what you will about Trump, but at least he is pushing this and I think it is a good thing. It is a matter of national security among other reasons.

    You can bet your ass that Biden doesn't want manufacturing coming back from China.
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    Unfortunately, people don't follow through and look at the labels. And it’s surprising that if you do, you can sometimes find higher quality, lower cost products made in the US. But retailers have preferred supply chains that may not even look for alternatives.

    Even worse, globalist treaties and edicts aim to remove transparency. They don't want you to be able to know what the country of origin is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Good!

    Slap a thirty percent import tariff on all Chinese goods, and reduce US based manufacturing taxes by double that amount.

    Sounds like the America people are finally seeing the light.


    Americans Are Giving Made-in-China the Cold Shoulder

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ntent=business

    New poll shows 40% won’t buy Made-in-China products

    By Brendan Murray

    May 17, 2020, 8:00 AM EDT

    The poll also found:

    55% don’t think China can be trusted to follow through on its trade-deal commitments signed in January to buy more U.S. products
    78% percent said they’d be willing to pay more for products if the company that made them moved manufacturing out of China
    66% said they favor raising import restrictions over the pursuit of free-trade deals as a better way to boost the U.S. economy
    Ban trade with China and tariff other places to reduce domestic taxation.
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    I've been doing it for decades , but I am a Great American Patriot .

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    Then we can get products made with parts sourced from china, assembled in the USA so they can stamp USA on the label.

    I will believe it when walmart stops demanding products be cheaper every year so suppliers are forced to move overseas.
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    If Americans can build/make what I want, I have no problem and do buy American. If another country makes the same product better, or what I can afford, my money goes there. The problem is, like with the steel industry, management screwed up, as did greedy unions, so where and what I spend my money on is nobody's business but mine. If other people want to spend more money, likewise, that is their own business, let the free market work it out. But like in healthcare, government intervention in either direction has NO business in a free market system.

    Why set an example when it is easier to emulate [become] other countries?
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    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Good!

    Slap a thirty percent import tariff on all Chinese goods, and reduce US based manufacturing taxes by double that amount.

    If they are willing, why does the government need to force them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Ban trade with China and tariff other places to reduce domestic taxation.
    Behold the beacon of liberty.
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    There's no shortage of brand-new Dollar General stores..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    If Americans can build/make what I want, I have no problem and do buy American. If another country makes the same product better, or what I can afford, my money goes there. The problem is, like with the steel industry, management screwed up, as did greedy unions, so where and what I spend my money on is nobody's business but mine. If other people want to spend more money, likewise, that is their own business, let the free market work it out. But like in healthcare, government intervention in either direction has NO business in a free market system.

    Why set an example when it is easier to emulate [become] other countries?
    winner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If they are willing, why does the government need to force them?
    It is hard to understand who wouldn't happily be for massive tax increases that hurt lowest income earners the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    It is hard to understand who wouldn't happily be for massive tax increases that hurt lowest income earners the most.
    Can't keep coddling the peasants . They need to produce more . LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If they are willing, why does the government need to force them?
    I can see by your resistance you will need to pay more .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    There's no shortage of brand-new Dollar General stores..
    Popping up everywhere.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If they are willing, why does the government need to force them?
    Because there are a whole host of goods, from light bulbs to TVs, that have no Made in the USA option.

    Making it more beneficial to manufacture here, would address that.

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    So, what "we" really need to do then is shove guns in the faces of the other 22% and force them to do likewise because, ya know like freedom and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    So, what "we" really need to do then is shove guns in the faces of the other 22% and force them to do likewise because, ya know like freedom and stuff.
    Why would anybody get guns shoved in their face?

    Buy all the Chinesium you want.

    Just gonna cost you 30 percent more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Why would anybody get guns shoved in their face?

    Buy all the Chinesium you want.

    Just gonna cost you 30 percent more.
    55% don’t think China can be trusted to follow through on its trade-deal commitments signed in January to buy more U.S. products
    78% percent said they’d be willing to pay more for products if the company that made them moved manufacturing out of China
    66% said they favor raising import restrictions over the pursuit of free-trade deals as a better way to boost the U.S. economy
    Hmm.

    Except, none of the above is "free-trade" - it is the opposite.

    They should just call it for what it is: support for government to decide winners and losers.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    chineesium is $#@! though so not sure why you guys want $#@! when you could by a better product if it was made here . The light bulbs AF mentioned are a good example . I buy a lot of light bulbs . $#@! . I would buy better bulbs made here . I personally see no need for the chicoms to supply the worlds light bulbs. If you can make one there , pay to send it here then obviously we have problems here that are not addressed. Free markets , ya that sounds good . Where are the US free markets ?
    Last edited by oyarde; 05-27-2020 at 07:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Where are the US free markets ?
    Government ended those before you and I were born.

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    If an import tax was put on *evrything* made in China, are you all thinking that would include items made for American companies innChina?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    chineesium is $#@! though so not sure why you guys want $#@! when you could by a better product if it was made here . The light bulbs AF mentioned are a good example . I buy a lot of light bulbs . $#@! . I would buy better bulbs made here . I personally see no need for the chicoms to supply the worlds light bulbs. If you can make one there , pay to send it here then obviously we have problems here that are not addressed. Free markets , ya that sounds good . Where are the US free markets ?
    Stop blaming other countries and look here at home.

    A friend of mine purchased an auto parts store here in my town. He wanted to put an addition on approximately 3 feet deep x 20 feet long on the back of the building to keep a slightly bigger inventory. He wanted to do the work himself (concrete block, 2x4 framing, drywall and shelving) which would have cost him no more than a couple thousand bucks. After completion he wanted to hire another counter person and also another driver to deliver parts. After town ordinances, "permits", inspections, filings, etc. added up to 30 grand, on top of waiting for all of the approvals which at that time would have been over a couple of months, he said f&ck it, and never did hire the additional employees that needed the jobs.

    So, while things sound good in theory, there is reality. .gov doesn't help anybody but themselves, and they don't own or run the business.

    And, remember all of the kid's lemonade stands getting shut down on privately owned property.

    .gov is the mafia. They want their cut and they do not like competition.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Why would anybody get guns shoved in their face?

    Buy all the Chinesium you want.

    Just gonna cost you 30 percent more.

    Ahh the proverbial deal that can't be refused. Extortion, um I mean taxation occurs at gun point. Period.
    Last edited by CCTelander; 05-27-2020 at 08:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Ahh the proverbial deal I can't refuse. Extortion, um I mean taxation occurs at gun point. Period.
    On RPF to boot. Simply amazing sad.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    On RPF to boot. Simply amazing sad.

    Apparently nowadays we have "good" extortion and "bad" extortion, but the option if no extortion is off the table and not to be considered. Funny but I thought that last option, otherwise known as freedom, was what I'd been fighting for all these long decades.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Hmm.

    Except, none of the above is "free-trade" - it is the opposite.

    They should just call it for what it is: support for government to decide winners and losers.

    Or central economic planning, aka socialism. Some people have allowed themselves to become sadly, egregiously misled.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    On RPF to boot. Simply amazing sad.
    No new revelation...I can pull ten year old posts of mine saying the same thing.

    Remove manufacturing and you remove the good paying jobs that can support families.

    That fosters generations of bone idleness and welfare dependency.

    That in turn fosters campaigns like Bernie's and young brigades of communists.

    Then that, in turn, means we all lose our liberty.

    Tariffs and excises are constitutional, the only form of taxation that is, I maintain.

    And a metric $#@! ton less intrusive than income, property or "user" taxes like pay by mile tracking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Or central economic planning, aka socialism. Some people have allowed themselves to become sadly, egregiously misled.
    I hope folks undermean what I stand when I say: Todays "republicans" are yesterdays democrats/commies. I do not say that lightly.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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