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    Chinese Troops Cross Into India, Fortify Positions

    The border tensions between China and India have escalated once again, after hundreds of Chinese troops crossed into Indian territory. Soldiers of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) breached the Indian border at multiple locations in the northern Himalayan region of Ladakh, Indian media reports said on Saturday.

    “Chinese had managed to come well inside the Indian territory and are also conducting aggressive patrols with motor boats in the Pangong lake,” Indian broadcaster NDTV reported. “The Chinese troops crossed 3 km into what India perceives to be its territory South East of the Galwan Valley in eastern Ladakh,” Indian news website The Print confirmed.

    The Chinese detained several Indian soldiers during the incursion. “An Indian patrol party was detained and later released by Chinese forces,” NDTV reported. The Indian military refused to comment on the incident.

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    LOL

    This is the site of the WWII Burma Road. It's some of the most beautiful, yet ugliest mountain territory in all the world. It's even worse than Afghanistan. It's so tough that three kilometers (less than two miles) is a huge gain.

    Nothing burger.
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    This is a neocon's dream. The US can get involved in a proxy war. Gain more influence in India have an excuse to maintain a presence in central asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtr1979 View Post
    This is a neocon's dream. The US can get involved in a proxy war. Gain more influence in India have an excuse to maintain a presence in central asia.
    Ugh, another American base is in the future.

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    They both have nuclear weapons and one invaded another .

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    This is around the Kongka Pass.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongka_Pass

    is a high mountain pass of the Chang-Chemno Range on the Line of Actual Control between India and China.[citation needed] China considers the Kongka Pass as its boundary with India, whereas India regards Lanak Pass further east as the boundary.[3] Colonial-era British sources state that the traditional boundary between Ladakh and Tibet accepted by both sides was at Lanak La,[4][5][6][7] but modern scholars such as Larry Wortzel and Allen S. Whiting consider Kongka Pass to be the traditional border.[8][9]

    The Indian border post is located 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) to the west at Hot Springs.[10] The Chinese border outpost is located a few kilometers to the east at the elevation of 5,070 metres (16,630 ft).[11]

    In the late 1800s, this pass was referred to as Salmu Kongka, it was considered a "small pass".[12]

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    Consider this, Pangong Tso Lake (Tibet/India Border) is just East of Leh, India and Islamabd is West of Srinagar, India.





    What happens if Pakistan becomes allied with China? By way of China's One Road System?
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    Chinese drone helicopters deploying there.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-tensions-soar

    China's first domestically built helicopter-drone made its maiden flight last week and could soon be deployed on the Sino-India border, reported Global Times.

    The AR500C unmanned helicopter, developed by the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), is capable of conducting reconnaissance, communication relay, electronic disruption, and attack missions at heights above 15,000 feet.

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    How strong is China's military?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    How strong is China's military?
    That's unclear because they are corrupt and have not fought a war in some time.
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    After over the weekend international reports said that multiple hundreds, or up to 1,000 Chinese troops have crossed into India following prior small-scale skirmishes weeks ago involving dozens of Indian and Chinese soldiers near a remote but strategically important mountain pass near Tibet, Indian media is now reporting that up to five to ten thousand PLA troops have now moved into Ladakh’s disputed Galwan river area.

    Some Indian media reports have suggested multiple thousands, while a new Business Standard India report now claims up to 10,000 Chinese soldiers inside India occupying the Galwan Valley while digging into fortified positions.

    Per the reports, a larger conflict between the two nuclear armed powers is on the horizon:

    “The most worrying situation is in the Galwan valley, where the PLA has crossed China’s own claim line (which Beijing had stated was the border with India) and breached 3-4 kilometers into Indian territory. PLA troops are digging defenses to equip themselves to face any Indian attack.”

    Meanwhile, unconfirmed Indian media reports say large Indian patrol units have begun building up in opposition to the recent PLA movements and provocations.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...rder-territory
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    Even as India and China continue to discuss ways to reduce tensions in Eastern Ladakh, it is emerging that the Chinese Army has deployed its troops all along the over 4,000 kilometre-long Line of Actual Control after which India has also rushed its fighting formations to forward locations in Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh.

    More at: https://www.rediff.com/news/report/s...c/20200611.htm
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

    "It is looking bad, very bad," says security analyst Vipin Narang, of the deadly clash between Indian and Chinese soldiers in Ladakh on Monday night.

    The most serious face-off on the world's longest unsettled land border in nearly half a century left 20 Indian soldiers dead. India says both sides suffered casualties.

    "Once fatalities are sustained, keeping everything quiet becomes hard on both sides. Now public pressure becomes a variable," Dr Narang, a security studies professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology told me.

    "The scale, scope and swathe of the pressure across the border is seemingly unprecedented."

    The two nuclear armed neighbours have a chequered history of face-offs and overlapping territorial claims along the more than 3,440km (2,100 mile), poorly drawn Line of Actual Control (LAC) separating the two sides. Border patrols have often bumped into each other, resulting in occasional scuffles. But no bullets have been fired in four decades.

    That is why Sunday's night's clash following months of roiling tension has taken many by surprise.
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    If China is going to war with India can they at least take out the power to the spam call centers? India's biggest export is ruining my day. Will literally get 6 calls a day from different numbers.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

    "It is looking bad, very bad," says security analyst Vipin Narang, of the deadly clash between Indian and Chinese soldiers in Ladakh on Monday night.

    The most serious face-off on the world's longest unsettled land border in nearly half a century left 20 Indian soldiers dead. India says both sides suffered casualties.

    "Once fatalities are sustained, keeping everything quiet becomes hard on both sides. Now public pressure becomes a variable," Dr Narang, a security studies professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology told me.

    "The scale, scope and swathe of the pressure across the border is seemingly unprecedented."

    The two nuclear armed neighbours have a chequered history of face-offs and overlapping territorial claims along the more than 3,440km (2,100 mile), poorly drawn Line of Actual Control (LAC) separating the two sides. Border patrols have often bumped into each other, resulting in occasional scuffles. But no bullets have been fired in four decades.

    That is why Sunday's night's clash following months of roiling tension has taken many by surprise.
    Earlier in the day we reported that Indian Army officials said that three troops - an officer and two soldiers, to be more precise - had been gunned down by Chinese forces during a "violent faceoff" in Galwan Valley in the Ladakh region Monday night.

    In an official follow-up statement, the Indian Army now says as of Tuesday evening local time that an additional seventeen soldiers were critically injured in the exchange of fire, and since succumbed to their wounds after being “exposed to sub-zero temperatures in the high altitude terrain.” This brings the official Indian death toll to 20 soldiers killed.

    With the whole incident still shrouded in contradictory claims and lack of confirmation on potential Chinese casualties from Beijing - even after widespread unverified Indian media reports claimed that up to 43 Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) were killed or injured in the clashes, one thing is for sure — that this is the biggest and deadliest border clash between the nuclear-armed neighbors in a half-century.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...reports-43-pla
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    China has laid claim to the entire Galwan Valley

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-cla...073826430.html

    China has laid claim to the entire Galwan Valley high up in the Himalayan border region where Chinese and Indian troops engaged in a deadly brawl this week.

    The confrontation in the Galwan Valley, part of the disputed Ladakh region along the Himalayan frontier, was the deadliest in 45 years.

    India blames China for instigating the fight by developing infrastructure in the valley, which it said was a breach of the agreement of what area remained in dispute.

    Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said in a statement that “the Galwan Valley is located on the Chinese side of the Line of Actual Control in the west section of the China-India boundary”.

    The valley falls within a remote stretch of the 2,100-mile Line of Actual Control — the border established following a war between India and China in 1962 that resulted in an uneasy truce.

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