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    Abrams: Illegal Immigrants "Are Now No Longer Able To Elect Anyone Who Represents Them"




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    Politicians are supposed to represent the citizens of our country, not illegals.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    thats RIGHT

    that is EXACTLY right.

    - my wife





    what is this fuggery?- tronpaul

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    someting
    someting
    feduciary responsiblility

    someting
    someting
    treason

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    It’s outrageous. I want to have a vote in China, France and the UK. Why are they allowed to disenfranchise me?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Politicians are supposed to represent the citizens of our country, not illegals. defend and protect the rights of the people, not corporations.
    Hope this helps ;-)
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Hope this helps ;-)
    The American people, not invaders.
    And corporations are made up of people.
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    If they want to elect somebody, they need to go back to their own country and do so.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Politicians are supposed to represent the citizens of our country, not illegals.
    ^^^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The American people, not invaders.
    Natural Rights do not belong to only Americans.

    And corporations are made up of people.
    Ok, flip-flop mitt.

    That is why this country is where it is at. Because of people just like you.
    Last edited by PAF; Today at 04:30 PM.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Abrams: Illegal Immigrants "Are Now No Longer Able To Elect Anyone Who Represents Them
    Liar.

    Of course they can.

    Get the $#@! out of my country and sod off back to wherever the $#@! you came from.

    Then you can vote to your heart's content for whatever Marxist $#@! you want.

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    She can't possibly be VP after saying that. Dems are not stupid enough to swing that hard left, they will lose all of the independents minus the TDS patients.

    Yes I realize some here will say yes thats exactly what the dems want, to pander to illegals and get more illegal votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Liar.

    Of course they can.

    Get the $#@! out of my country and sod off back to wherever the $#@! you came from.

    Then you can vote to your heart's content for whatever Marxist $#@! you want.
    Most Americans vote the podium rhetoric. Perhaps some of the immigrants do too. In my experience, immigrants want to escape the sh|tholes that they came from and want a better way of life. Need I remind you, if it had not been for immigrants in my area, RP would not have won every delegate hands down going to convention.

    Many of the immigrants I know and have run into own or operate businesses, want lower taxes, less regulation on the companies and services that they own and run. You saw my demographic, it is red.

    Also, many of the immigrants I talk to know much more about the corruption in their and our governments, they certainly do not want to "re-elect" what they escaped, while most of the multi-generational Americans know nothing and are not interested in knowing anything. Those multi-gen Americans are the ones soaking the GD system with 4 to 5 kids to 4 different fathers on my GD dime.

    So, instead of talking and acting like the dictator you claim to hate, how about talk with them, find out what the their positions are, and bring them to the side of liberty. Face it, you want them to either GTFO, or vote "republican". Getting the f&ck out will reduce your freedom by restrictionary measures, voting "republican" will get us more TSA, Patriot Act, Bailouts and Fed-Funding biotech companies.

    You think/believe locking people in/out will preserve freedom, but what you advocate is exactly what is destroying it

    I agree with many of your positions, AF, but this is the webz and I do not know you personally. But some of your positions are so far off the GD track I wonder if you are a bot, or a very good "take one for the team republican" who wouldn't know liberty if it smacked you in the GD head

    And then folks wonder why this stinking sh|thole of a country keeps sinking into a tenth-rate hell-hole. Sure, let's emulate other GD countries! That'll fix us!

    Rant over
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    someting
    someting
    feduciary responsiblility

    someting
    someting
    treason
    The Founders of this country setup a system of government for a free people so that people from around the world who wanted freedom could come here and live free. It wasn't setup so that socialists could come here and turn it into a socialist country. You can go anywhere for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Most Americans vote the podium rhetoric. Perhaps some of the immigrants do too. In my experience, immigrants want to escape the sh|tholes that they came from and want a better way of life. Need I remind you, if it had not been for immigrants in my area, RP would not have won every delegate hands down going to convention.

    Many of the immigrants I know and have run into own or operate businesses, want lower taxes, less regulation on the companies and services that they own and run. You saw my demographic, it is red.

    Also, many of the immigrants I talk to know much more about the corruption in their and our governments, they certainly do not want to "re-elect" what they escaped, while most of the multi-generational Americans know nothing and are not interested in knowing anything. Those multi-gen Americans are the ones soaking the GD system with 4 to 5 kids to 4 different fathers on my GD dime.

    So, instead of talking and acting like the dictator you claim to hate, how about talk with them, find out what the their positions are, and bring them to the side of liberty. Face it, you want them to either GTFO, or vote "republican". Getting the f&ck out will reduce your freedom by restrictionary measures, voting "republican" will get us more TSA, Patriot Act, Bailouts and Fed-Funding biotech companies.

    You think/believe locking people in/out will preserve freedom, but what you advocate is exactly what is destroying it

    I agree with many of your positions, AF, but this is the webz and I do not know you personally. But some of your positions are so far off the GD track I wonder if you are a bot, or a very good "take one for the team republican" who wouldn't know liberty if it smacked you in the GD head

    And then folks wonder why this stinking sh|thole of a country keeps sinking into a tenth-rate hell-hole. Sure, let's emulate other GD countries! That'll fix us!

    Rant over
    When we were a free country, people were welcome to come here and make their own way. Now that we have grown to be so socialist, a lot of immigrants come here for the welfare state.

    Careful what you wish for.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    You think/believe locking people in/out will preserve freedom, but what you advocate is exactly what is destroying it
    Do you have a front door with a lock on it? Does your car? Care to give me your bank card PIN?

    Good fences make good neighbors. I have been around the world, more than once, and not to the tourist areas.

    I've seen the helpless squalor, hopeless poverty and idiocy of collectivist government, supported over and over and over again by these same idiot masses.

    I do not want that in my country...we have a hard enough time with our home grown idiots.

    10 year complete moratorium on ALL migration and instant deportation of any criminal vagrants.

    I agree with many of your positions, AF, but this is the webz and I do not know you personally. But some of your positions are so far off the GD track I wonder if you are a bot, or a very good "take one for the team republican" who wouldn't know liberty if it smacked you in the GD head
    I'm a very real person, sadly most of the people that can attest to that fact are long gone from here or banned, and I agree with much of what you say.

    We disagree on this...which normal, rational, pre-internet people could do.

    And then folks wonder why this stinking sh|thole of a country keeps sinking into a tenth-rate hell-hole. Sure, let's emulate other GD countries! That'll fix us!

    Rant over
    It is sinking into that state precisely because the politics and policies favored by the invaders are becoming ensconced onto law.

    Exhibit A: California.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Natural Rights do not belong to only Americans. Id10t.



    Ok, flip-flop mitt. Id10t.

    That is why this country is where it is at. Because of people just like you. Id10t.
    Voting in America is not a natural right of anyone but Americans.

    And neither is being in America.

    But thanks for exposing that you want invaders to vote.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Most Americans vote the podium rhetoric. Perhaps some of the immigrants do too. In my experience, immigrants want to escape the sh|tholes that they came from and want a better way of life. Need I remind you, if it had not been for immigrants in my area, RP would not have won every delegate hands down going to convention.

    Many of the immigrants I know and have run into own or operate businesses, want lower taxes, less regulation on the companies and services that they own and run. You saw my demographic, it is red.

    Also, many of the immigrants I talk to know much more about the corruption in their and our governments, they certainly do not want to "re-elect" what they escaped, while most of the multi-generational Americans know nothing and are not interested in knowing anything. Those multi-gen Americans are the ones soaking the GD system with 4 to 5 kids to 4 different fathers on my GD dime.

    So, instead of talking and acting like the dictator you claim to hate, how about talk with them, find out what the their positions are, and bring them to the side of liberty. Face it, you want them to either GTFO, or vote "republican". Getting the f&ck out will reduce your freedom by restrictionary measures, voting "republican" will get us more TSA, Patriot Act, Bailouts and Fed-Funding biotech companies.

    You think/believe locking people in/out will preserve freedom, but what you advocate is exactly what is destroying it

    I agree with many of your positions, AF, but this is the webz and I do not know you personally. But some of your positions are so far off the GD track I wonder if you are a bot, or a very good "take one for the team republican" who wouldn't know liberty if it smacked you in the GD head

    And then folks wonder why this stinking sh|thole of a country keeps sinking into a tenth-rate hell-hole. Sure, let's emulate other GD countries! That'll fix us!

    Rant over
    Immigrants vote to make our country into a hellhole like the one they came from and all the studies show it, it's just like Kalifornians.

    They have no right to come here and no right to impose their political culture on us.

    Your agenda is obvious and it isn't liberty.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    That is unfair. We should allow the billion of Chinese to mail in ballots. I would also like information on how I can vote in Saudi Arabia's next election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Do you have a front door with a lock on it? Does your car? Care to give me your bank card PIN?
    My private owned property does have a lock on it. So does my privately owned car. Absolutely not.

    You are confusing privately owned property with public land. Land which the government, BLM for starters, has no rights to. Land that could be homesteaded, build a home on, farm or business. Do you have a private property deed for this public land that you speak of? If I walk across the public non-owned desert, mountains, open plains, with no papers, and you happened upon me, would you draw your weapon and attempt to murder me?


    Good fences make good neighbors. I have been around the world, more than once, and not to the tourist areas.
    Yes they do. Fences are excellent at defining private property boundaries. Come on my private property without my consent, pay the consequences. Otherwise, move along on public land, you are more than welcome to and I have no beef.

    As far as having been around the world, I am not looking for a pissing contest. Perhaps you may have possibly traveled as extensively as I have/do... who knows.


    I've seen the helpless squalor, hopeless poverty and idiocy of collectivist government, supported over and over and over again by these same idiot masses.
    I have seen poor folk abroad working hard to survive, despite what their corrupt government does with its armed military. I have also seen bums who gave up with nothing to do, but not near as much as I see here at home with all of the Sally-Welfare moms with 5 kids. Perhaps you avoid those sections of town, to know first hand what I am talking about.


    I do not want that in my country...we have a hard enough time with our home grown idiots.
    So you would have all of the "invaders" GTFO, who take the jobs Americans do not want, who own businesses, work services, and do not appreciate high taxes and welfare, and leave me with Sally-Welfare to turn my "red" area into blue? I would respond with an LOL, but it would not be a laughing matter.


    10 year complete moratorium on ALL migration and instant deportation of any criminal vagrants.
    In that case, I whole-heartedly agree with you that we should place a 10 year moratorium on the entire Bill of Rights, to distinguish "them from us". Papers please, National/Bio-ID, central government database, check points whether I walk or drive, along with hiring more Federal goons, agencies, holding cells, etc. on our tax dime. Trust me when I tell you: Fed.gov will absolutely love us for our small contribution as proud nationalists. My answer is NO.


    I'm a very real person, sadly most of the people that can attest to that fact are long gone from here or banned, and I agree with much of what you say.
    To this day I still keep in touch with some of them. If not over phone, or hot wings, then at the shooting event we have at the farm every year.


    We disagree on this...which normal, rational, pre-internet people could do.
    The key is to learn from prior mistakes that continue to repeat as our freedoms dwindle into nothing. Look exactly where we are.


    It is sinking into that state precisely because the politics and policies favored by the invaders are becoming ensconced onto law.
    You are blaming the wrong set of people. Try following the money, as Ron Paul and I have been harping on for decades. Then you will find the truth, and the true enemy. And if enough people do, perhaps we can make a positive difference rather than spinning our wheels stripping ourselves and others of our Natural Born Rights.


    Exhibit A: California.
    I feel more free in that dung-hole California than I do right here in the most corrupt state in the nation.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    So you would have all of the "invaders" GTFO, who take the jobs Americans do not want, who own businesses, work services, and do not appreciate high taxes and welfare, and leave me with Sally-Welfare to turn my "red" area into blue? I would respond with an LOL, but it would not be a laughing matter.
    I feel more free in that dung-hole California than I do right here in the most corrupt state in the nation.
    You're contradicting yourself...which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You're contradicting yourself...which is it?
    It's whatever talking point serves his communist agenda to flood us with communists and enact worldwide communism with no borders.

    Notice that he throws around that old lie about "jobs Americans won't do".
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    @PAF
    In what state do you live ?

    Most new immigrants from the 3rd world vote for the Democratic Party. They support gun control,single payer & hate speech laws.
    We cannot continue to allow this people in. They are voting our rights away.
    I agree with you almost other every issue but on this you are simply wrong.

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    Kill the welfare state.

    [edit]
    And no, I'm not saying every immigrant desires welfare anymore than every citizen doesn't.
    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 05-24-2020 at 11:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    @PAF
    In what state do you live ?

    Most new immigrants from the 3rd world vote for the Democratic Party. They support gun control,single payer & hate speech laws.
    We cannot continue to allow this people in. They are voting our rights away.
    I agree with you almost other every issue but on this you are simply wrong.
    Is fantasy land a state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Kill the welfare state.

    [edit]
    And no, I'm not saying every immigrant desires welfare anymore than every citizen doesn't.
    Exactly.

    But don't you know, the "republicans" keep repeating over and over again how "unrealistic" that is, even when they hold the presidential office, house and/or senate. They will brainwash people to the point that they simply accept it, while eroding more of our rights, grow the Fed and hire more Fed workers. "It's the only way".
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Do you have a front door with a lock on it? Does your car? Care to give me your bank card PIN?

    Good fences make good neighbors. I have been around the world, more than once, and not to the tourist areas.

    I've seen the helpless squalor, hopeless poverty and idiocy of collectivist government, supported over and over and over again by these same idiot masses.

    I do not want that in my country...we have a hard enough time with our home grown idiots.

    10 year complete moratorium on ALL migration and instant deportation of any criminal vagrants.



    I'm a very real person, sadly most of the people that can attest to that fact are long gone from here or banned, and I agree with much of what you say.

    We disagree on this...which normal, rational, pre-internet people could do.



    It is sinking into that state precisely because the politics and policies favored by the invaders are becoming ensconced onto law.

    Exhibit A: California.
    DITTO!

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    @PAF
    In what state do you live ?

    Most new immigrants from the 3rd world vote for the Democratic Party. They support gun control,single payer & hate speech laws.
    We cannot continue to allow this people in. They are voting our rights away.
    I agree with you almost other every issue but on this you are simply wrong.
    Pennsylvania.

    Hmm. Except a lot of the immigrants, as well as lower income people, own guns, and typically don't register them. This was brought up at one of the republican committee meetings a couple of years ago, and they wanted to "do something" about that. Also, outside of my area, one of the first things taught when you are growing up in the Bronx, is "where's the warrant".

    Sorry, Sammy, generalized statements just don't hold water. I know that democrats blame republicans for a lot of things, and republicans blame democrats for a lot of things. Once thing is for certain, because I see it here and in other places, is that multi-generational Americans in Section 8 are on the welfare system, they may vote democrat, IF they are not too lazy to get off of the couch to even bother.

    Back to the republican committee meetings with the trump-wearing ball-caps and old ladies with dyed red hair, they believe everybody should have a national ID card, and register the guns, because, for our "protection".
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Exactly.

    But don't you know, the "republicans" keep repeating over and over again how "unrealistic" that is, even when they hold the presidential office, house and/or senate. They will brainwash people to the point that they simply accept it, while eroding more of our rights, grow the Fed and hire more Fed workers. "It's the only way".
    You can't kill the welfare state as long as you keep importing people who support it at higher rates than the natives.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Pennsylvania.

    Hmm. Except a lot of the immigrants, as well as lower income people, own guns, and typically don't register them. This was brought up at one of the republican committee meetings a couple of years ago, and they wanted to "do something" about that. Also, outside of my area, one of the first things taught when you are growing up in the Bronx, is "where's the warrant".

    Sorry, Sammy, generalized statements just don't hold water. I know that democrats blame republicans for a lot of things, and republicans blame democrats for a lot of things. Once thing is for certain, because I see it here and in other places, is that multi-generational Americans in Section 8 are on the welfare system, they may vote democrat, IF they are not too lazy to get off of the couch to even bother.

    Back to the republican committee meetings with the trump-wearing ball-caps and old ladies with dyed red hair, they believe everybody should have a national ID card, and register the guns, because, for our "protection".
    Your anecdotal experiences (if we even believe them) do not change the facts about the vast majority of immigrants and American Republicans.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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