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Thread: Is There Really a Crisis? COVID Deaths Compared to 2018 Flu Deaths, State by State

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    COVID-19 has killed almost 100,000 in less than 7 weeks.

    Whether 2018 or 2019, the flu seasons were far longer than 7 weeks.

    If you divided those deaths by duration, it most definitely will not get you 1500-2000 deaths each day.

    No matter how you try to twist it, unless you're denying the reported and recorded facts, COVID-19 has killed more than any influenza season in this country.
    Covid would have to exist for that to be possible.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenard Butler View Post
    Covid would have to exist for that to be possible.
    Of course it exists. It's just not the end of the world like the media would have you believe.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Of course it exists.
    What are you basing that statement on besides other statements repeated over and over again by complete strangers who have a history of lying "just 'cause"?

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Of course it exists.
    Corona Virus is a Cold.. They exist..

    Covid 19 is a Politically Promoted Cold.. so it is Short Bus Special.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenard Butler View Post
    What are you basing that statement on besides other statements repeated over and over again by complete strangers who have a history of lying "just 'cause"?
    You have to be completely nut if you are denying a virus is circulating and people have gotten ill.

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Corona Virus is a Cold.. They exist..

    Covid 19 is a Politically Promoted Cold.. so it is Short Bus Special.
    Yeah for almost everyone who gets it, it's just common cold symptoms, not a big deal. The whole thing is overblown.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    None this year.

    I believe there will be almost ZERO Flu Deaths this year according to statistics. Yet, the flu and even the common cold will probably still spread. Worse yet, they WILL be ALL counted as COVID. Thus, it is my conclusion that unless the worldwide fraud behind this virus hoax is exposed, we WILL be in LOCKDOWN 2 PERMANENTLY.

    They will tell you that because of COVID the Flu has just gone away.
    1776 > 1984

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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    1. look at your chart again, for the past since months since June, those numbers most likely exceeded 2018 flu
    2. If CDC did conflate antibody with viral tests, that's wrong, but i doubt people like you care either way.
    Only socialists parasites like you believe the b u l l s h i t about a gazillion deaths and new cases

    Even though Medical doctors are telling you that the whole thing is a f u c k i n g HOAX


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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Only socialists parasites like you believe the b u l l s h i t about a gazillion deaths and new cases

    Even though Medical doctors are telling you that the whole thing is a f u c k i n g HOAX


    No, almost every country recognizes it's a deadly disease. you think Japan cancelled their Olympic games for nothing?

    You think European countries stopped welcoming Americans for nothing?

    Medical doctors are not saying that.
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    I believe there will be almost ZERO Flu Deaths this year according to statistics. Yet, the flu and even the common cold will probably still spread. Worse yet, they WILL be ALL counted as COVID. Thus, it is my conclusion that unless the worldwide fraud behind this virus hoax is exposed, we WILL be in LOCKDOWN 2 PERMANENTLY.

    They will tell you that because of COVID the Flu has just gone away.
    what do you mean by almost none? 10,000? 50,000? 100,000?

    It's not that COVID cured the flu, it could just be it killed people first.
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Corona Virus is a Cold.. They exist..

    Covid 19 is a Politically Promoted Cold.. so it is Short Bus Special.
    so Japan cancelled Olympic games for nothing?
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Of course it exists. It's just not the end of the world like the media would have you believe.
    how many deaths is "end of the world"?
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    how many deaths is "end of the world"?
    100% is technically the end of the world.


    Lets say 300,000 die of this eventually. That is .001% of our population. Now consider that almost all of those deaths were elderly people with a comorbidity that would have died anyway. This thing is just not a major concern.

  16. #43
    It's a virus with a gain-of-function pneumonia virus added for a twist. The most vulnerable can die from complications of pneumonia and that seems to be the key.

    This is a man-made virus that Dr. (sic) Anthony Fauci warned about in 2017.



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  17. #44
    Of course it exists. & is extremely contagious

    & can be pretty nasty

    I was in denial of it early on.. my bad

    Doesn’t mean our entire Nation needs to be shutdown
    Last edited by vita3; 11-15-2020 at 07:43 AM.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    No, almost every country recognizes it's a deadly disease. you think Japan cancelled their Olympic games for nothing?

    You think European countries stopped welcoming Americans for nothing?

    Medical doctors are not saying that.
    In Germany , the government wanted to convince "right wingers" that restrictions are necessary .They asked Germany's Best Medical Universities to research the issue. Their MEDICAL/SCIENTIFIC conclusion: COVID19 is a HOAX

    Afterwards the German government tried to suppressed the report - proving that covid19 is a POLITICAL HOAX - POLITICS OVER SCIENCE


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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    what do you mean by almost none? 10,000? 50,000? 100,000?

    It's not that COVID cured the flu, it could just be it killed people first.
    I mean statistics. The MSM will simply stop reporting on the flu.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    nobody said that
    That's literally who has been counted in your numbers, oh my God look at the numbers. Many many examples of this comrade. The flu I amazingly cured. The average daily death rate of 7800 hasn't changed. Yet somehow we're supposed to be in this mass panic.
    Last edited by Matt4Liberty; 11-15-2020 at 09:37 AM.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Of course it exists. & is extremely contagious

    & can be pretty nasty

    I was in denial of it early on.. my bad

    Doesn’t mean our entire Nation needs to be shutdown
    If Democrats put America in a shutdown the economy will be dead no number of migrants would be able to save the weak economy.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    I can see the lockdowns are going so well for Germany now.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    I can see the lockdowns are going so well for Germany now.
    If you can call resurrecting the SS and Gestapo "going so well".
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    You have to be completely nut if you are denying a virus is circulating and people have gotten ill.
    I deny lots of things. This isn’t a religious debate. I require proof of outrageous claims. As of right now, I’ve seen zip. The stranger repeating assertions on the electronic propaganda box doesn’t count. I don’t own one, but I’ve caught a blurb or two in passing.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenard Butler View Post
    What are you basing that statement on besides other statements repeated over and over again by complete strangers who have a history of lying "just 'cause"?
    Um, does the fact that I know people who have had it cut any ice with you?

    It's a very bad chest cold. Eat poultry soup, drink orange juice, if you have lung congestion sleep sitting up so you don't get pneumonia. Or just refuse to believe you have it and do get pneumonia, just as you please.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Um, does the fact that I know people who have had it cut any ice with you?

    It's a very bad chest cold. Eat poultry soup, drink orange juice, if you have lung congestion sleep sitting up so you don't get pneumonia. Or just refuse to believe you have it and do get pneumonia, just as you please.
    How do you know they didn't just have Influenza?

    The medical people call everything Covid-19 these days.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Um, does the fact that I know people who have had it cut any ice with you?
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    Nope. It’s the flu and you’re either extremely gullible or a collaborator.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    How do you know they didn't just have Influenza?

    The medical people call everything Covid-19 these days.
    I've been sick for a few days, decided to get off my ass before I developed pnemonia. I'll be damned if I'm going to get tested for that $#@!, I really don't care to have my every movement tracked. I've had worse than this.
    "The Patriarch"

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    How do you know they didn't just have Influenza?

    The medical people call everything Covid-19 these days.
    Chest colds and influenzas do not have identical symptoms.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenard Butler View Post
    Nope. It’s the flu and you’re either extremely gullible or a collaborator.
    Either that, or you're either extremely rude or too partisan to think straight.

    Or both.

    Bad chest colds exist. They have existed for millennia, and anyone who denies that is about as worth listening to as a Magic Bullet Believer or a Flat Earther.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I've been sick for a few days, decided to get off my ass before I developed pnemonia.
    Smart man. The vast majority of people who die of either colds or flu die of pneumonia, and the overwhelming majority of the time, pneumonia can be prevented by not lying flat. I like you, so please sleep in the recliner until your chest congestion clears.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 11-15-2020 at 08:12 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    How do you know they didn't just have Influenza?

    The medical people call everything Covid-19 these days.
    If they call it Pneumonia medicare pays $3 to $5000.

    Call it covid19 medicare pays up to $39.000.
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    If they call it Pneumonia medicare pays $3 to $5000.

    Call it covid19 medicare pays up to $39.000.
    Nobody paid anything. The people I spoke of didn't go to a hospital.

    But thanks for playing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  34. #59
    Have a friend who got this in July & still has no smell or taste.

    Cut the BS this is real, but who exploits it & profits from it is the real debate

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Have a friend who got this in July & still has no smell or taste.

    Cut the BS this is real, but who exploits it & profits from it is the real debate
    That, and whether the stress caused by the economic sabotage has killed more people than the cold. These are the sort of intelligent and vital conversations the deniers, whether unintentionally or because they're stooges, prevent us from having.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 11-15-2020 at 08:35 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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