True COVID Mortality Rate Now Looking Like .2% from Initial 2.0-4.0%, It Really is Just a Flu

[James_Madison_Lives]

Keeping a downward trend, just as predicted because at first only very sick people coming into the hospital for the denominator. There was no data on how many got it, didn't feel anything then got immune, or had mild symptoms then got immune.

Even with a good early data set from the Diamond Princess cruise ship, in March, 3711 passengers and crew onboard, of whom 705 became sick and tested positive for COVID-19 and seven died. That's 1% mortality, already way lower than initial 2-4%. Expecting cruise ship passengers to be a little older, rate would have been lower in a more representative demographic.

Now latest study is mortality rate as low as .25%. Initial estimates were 2-4%, leading to estimates of possibly millions dead. Seasonal flu is about .1%

Now we know that COVID-19 is not much deadlier than seasonal flu.

UPMC doctor argues COVID-19 not as deadly as feared, says its hospitals will shift back to normal
Updated May 11, 2020;
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...n0yHc7sDfdSk1A

A UPMC doctor on Thursday made a case the death rate for people infected with the new coronavirus may be as low as 0.25% — far lower than the mortality rates of 2-4% or even higher cited in the early days of the pandemic.

Dr. Donald Yealy based it partly on studies of levels of coronavirus antibodies detected in people in New York and California, and partly on COVID-19 deaths in the Pittsburgh region. The studies found that 5-20% of people had been exposed to the coronavirus, with many noticing only mild illness or none at all, he said.

Navy hospital ship deployed to NYC with 1,000 bed capacity is only treating 22 patients
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/polit...rus/index.html

[pcosmar]

Less than the Flu.

Comparable to the Common Cold despite the hype.

[James_Madison_Lives]

Less than the Flu.

Comparable to the Common Cold despite the hype.

I could believe it but do you have a link or argument? Interested.

[dannno]

I could believe it but do you have a link or argument? Interested.

It's actually a bit higher than the real numbers for the flu, but similar to the number of official flu deaths.

That is because the official numbers for the flu which range from 30,000 - 80,000 deaths a year are calculated by an algorithm, and the real numbers are closer to 4,000 - 15,000, but more likely closer to 4,000.

Why is that?

To sell flu shots.

Same people hyping the corona virus hype the flu, so we should probably not trust them at all.

Are Flu Deaths a Hoax?


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-Deaths-a-Hoax

[kpitcher]

the current official numbers put it at 6% in the US. https://infection2020.com/

How those may or may not be skewed is anyone's guess.

[dannno]

the current official numbers put it at 6% in the US. https://infection2020.com/

How those may or may not be skewed is anyone's guess.

Wrong.

You forgot the most important and biggest part of the equation.. ALL OF THE $#@!ING PEOPLE WHO GOT IT AND NEVER GOT TESTED. That is the vast majority.

Anti-body testing has shown that the number is closer to 0.2% - 0.4%

You can go back to the 20 page thread on this topic and see that was exactly what my estimate was months ago.

Your welcome.

[James_Madison_Lives]

Wrong.

You forgot the most important and biggest part of the equation.. ALL OF THE $#@!ING PEOPLE WHO GOT IT AND NEVER GOT TESTED. That is the vast majority.

Anti-body testing has shown that the number is closer to 0.2% - 0.4%

You can go back to the 20 page thread on this topic and see that was exactly what my estimate was months ago.

Your welcome.

Damn you smart bro. Serious.

[James_Madison_Lives]

the current official numbers put it at 6% in the US. https://infection2020.com/

How those may or may not be skewed is anyone's guess.

They are skewed because they are terrible science. Science would dictate a random sample of the population, like a poll survey, being tested for both the virus and the antibodies so you could get a true picture of how it has already swept through much of the population without most people even knowing, and are now immune. If you test mostly people who are already very sick of course you will get a far higher death rate. Up to 85 times more people had it and were asymptomatic that the number who have tested positive. That makes about .25%, basically the flu, sound about right.

[Working Poor]

I remain skeptical about any numbers that are coming out about it.
Some are whispering that this virus has a surprise kick to it. If it is some kind of designer lab created stuff we don't know what the out come maybe. Did they invent something to kill off as many elderly as possible? . Old folks die all the time year in and year out but okay. I feel like I don't know any real facts about this CV19 stuff. I think nobody knows what is really going on with the exception of a few. It feels like a psy-op to me. I think Trump ,Fauci, Dems, Rebubs,CDC and WHo are all lying about it.

[Dr.3D]

Rand Paul even said .2%.

Listen at around 1:11.

[shakey1]

Rand Paul even said .2%.

Listen at around 1:11.

The voice of reason.

[kpitcher]

any official numbers on antibody tests, like the CDC keeping track of positive tests it would seem like they would have antibody results. If it drives the number down to flu like level then trump can gloat and claim more #winning

[Anti Globalist]

Got to remain skeptical about these numbers since they are being inflated.

[pcosmar]

any official numbers on antibody tests, like the CDC keeping track of positive tests it would seem like they would have antibody results. If it drives the number down to flu like level then trump can gloat and claim more #winning

Two people in Washington have tested Positive for Covid anti-bodies and they got sick in December.. Were recovered before the hype started.
It was widespread long before "Containment" entered the conversation.

[James_Madison_Lives]

any official numbers on antibody tests, like the CDC keeping track of positive tests it would seem like they would have antibody results. If it drives the number down to flu like level then trump can gloat and claim more #winning

Governors not interested in antibody tests because that would say how many people getting well, not how many getting sick. it is about fear.

[kpitcher]

Got to remain skeptical about these numbers since they are being inflated.

The science behind it may have a false inflated number because the tests asked for volunteers. Many people wanted to be tested because they couldn't be sure they had covid when they were sick as the tests were not available at the time. This non randomized sampling may have inflated the numbers drastically. When more numbers come out at larger scale we can start to see how things actually are.