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    Rand Paul Accuses Kentucky Governor of Acting Like a Dictator



    Paul accused Beshear and other lawmakers from around the country of making unconstitutional decisions without the will of the people, who have yet to be consulted regarding whether they support the social distancing guidelines that many states have instituted.

    "This isn't about health," Paul continued. "This about using health as an excuse for someone to gain control over our lives. And we now have governors, like in our state ó the governor has made all these decisions without consenting the legislature or the people. Without asking for any permission, he's making all these decisions."
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...o-bully-people

    U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4
    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government...
    https://usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec4.html

    Rand is insinuating that his state is no longer practicing a Republican form of government since the Governor is acting as a dictator. Issuing orders and punishing citizens without the consent of the state legislature or the state senate.

    If Trump agrees with Rand, we may see martial law in Kentucky to remove Beshear and institute a special election for Governor.



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    ACTING?

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revgen View Post




    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...o-bully-people

    U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4

    https://usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec4.html

    Rand is insinuating that his state is no longer practicing a Republican form of government since the Governor is acting as a dictator. Issuing orders and punishing citizens without the consent of the state legislature or the state senate.

    If Trump agrees with Rand, we may see martial law in Kentucky to remove Beshear and institute a special election for Governor.
    From your lips to GOD's ears.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Will federal martial law be a more republican form of government for Kentucky?

    Nope, just a federal dictator. Worse yet.

    The answer is LESS government & more restrictions on the powers granted to gov, not changing the seat of power.
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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    I would be satisfied if Trump and Barr would simply inundate beshear with multiple lawsuits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    From your lips to GOD's ears.

    I think you missed a spot on that jackboot over there. Best get back down there and get to it, slave.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Will federal martial law be a more republican form of government for Kentucky?

    Nope, just a federal dictator. Worse yet.

    The answer is LESS government & more restrictions on the powers granted to gov, not changing the seat of power.

    And yet this simple concept seems to be beyond the grasp of some.

    +rep
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    ACTING?
    Really. you think?

    So all the libertarians that tout "States Rights" what happens when the governors become dictators?
    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.Ē ~ Charles Dickens



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    Tyrants come in many forms and SIZES

    some so small they go around measuring people's grass for misery and profit

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    Tyrants come in many forms and SIZES

    some so small they go around measuring people's grass for misery and profit


    "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
    ~ Thomas Jefferson
    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.Ē ~ Charles Dickens

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Really. you think?

    So all the libertarians that tout "States Rights" what happens when the governors become dictators?
    I didn't know that "states rights" was a libertarian position. Slavery was not libertarian, neither was Jim Crow. The 10th amendment must be interpreted in light of the 9th.

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Also every state has its own version of the bill of rights. Check out the Kentucky bill of rights.

    https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/constitution

    Section 1 ... Rights of life, liberty, worship, pursuit of safety and happiness, free speech, acquiring and protecting property, peaceable assembly, redress of grievances, bearing arms.
    Section 2 ... Absolute and arbitrary power denied.
    Section 3 ... Men are equal -- No exclusive grant except for public services -- Property not to be exempted from taxation -- Grants revocable.
    Section 4 ... Power inherent in the people -- Right to alter, reform, or abolish government.
    Section 5 ... Right of religious freedom.
    Section 6 ... Elections to be free and equal.
    Section 7 ... Right of trial by jury.
    Section 8 ... Freedom of speech and of the press.
    Section 9 ... Truth may be given in evidence in prosecution for publishing matters proper for public information -- Jury to try law and facts in libel prosecutions.
    Section 10 ... Security from search and seizure -- Conditions of issuance of warrant.
    Section 11 ... Rights of accused in criminal prosecution -- Change of venue.
    Section 12 ... Indictable offense not to be prosecuted by information -- Exceptions.
    Section 13 ... Double jeopardy -- Property not to be taken for public use without compensation.
    Section 14 ... Right of judicial remedy for injury -- Speedy trial.
    Section 15 ... Laws to be suspended only by General Assembly.
    Section 16 ... Right to bail -- Habeas corpus.
    Section 17 ... Excessive bail or fine, or cruel punishment, prohibited.
    Section 18 ... Imprisonment for debt restricted.
    Section 19 ... Ex post facto law or law impairing contract forbidden -- Rules of construction for mineral deeds relating to coal extraction.
    Section 20 ... Attainder, operation of restricted.
    Section 21 ... Descent in case of suicide or casualty.
    Section 22 ... Standing armies restricted -- Military subordinate to civil -- Quartering soldiers restricted.
    Section 23 ... No office of nobility or hereditary distinction, or for longer than a term of years.
    Section 24 ... Emigration to be free.
    Section 25 ... Slavery and involuntary servitude forbidden.
    Section 26 ... General powers subordinate to Bill of Rights -- Laws contrary thereto are void.


    Now the question comes, what should a free people do about an out of control state government? One is to appeal to the feds for relief. Good luck with that! The other is to ask smaller units of government to resist state tyranny. For instance there are sheriffs in Virginia who have vowed not to enforce the state's newly enacted gun control laws. But ultimately what happens in Kentucky is up to the people of Kentucky. How many have decided "enough is enough" and are willing to go against the lockdown? Who is willing to be like the salon owner in Texas who chose civil disobedience and jail rather than just sitting back and watching her children go hungry? A dictator can only be a dictator as long as the people propping him up allow him to be.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I didn't know that "states rights" was a libertarian position. Slavery was not libertarian, neither was Jim Crow. The 10th amendment must be interpreted in light of the 9th.

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Also every state has its own version of the bill of rights. Check out the Kentucky bill of rights.

    https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/constitution

    Section 1 ... Rights of life, liberty, worship, pursuit of safety and happiness, free speech, acquiring and protecting property, peaceable assembly, redress of grievances, bearing arms.
    Section 2 ... Absolute and arbitrary power denied.
    Section 3 ... Men are equal -- No exclusive grant except for public services -- Property not to be exempted from taxation -- Grants revocable.
    Section 4 ... Power inherent in the people -- Right to alter, reform, or abolish government.
    Section 5 ... Right of religious freedom.
    Section 6 ... Elections to be free and equal.
    Section 7 ... Right of trial by jury.
    Section 8 ... Freedom of speech and of the press.
    Section 9 ... Truth may be given in evidence in prosecution for publishing matters proper for public information -- Jury to try law and facts in libel prosecutions.
    Section 10 ... Security from search and seizure -- Conditions of issuance of warrant.
    Section 11 ... Rights of accused in criminal prosecution -- Change of venue.
    Section 12 ... Indictable offense not to be prosecuted by information -- Exceptions.
    Section 13 ... Double jeopardy -- Property not to be taken for public use without compensation.
    Section 14 ... Right of judicial remedy for injury -- Speedy trial.
    Section 15 ... Laws to be suspended only by General Assembly.
    Section 16 ... Right to bail -- Habeas corpus.
    Section 17 ... Excessive bail or fine, or cruel punishment, prohibited.
    Section 18 ... Imprisonment for debt restricted.
    Section 19 ... Ex post facto law or law impairing contract forbidden -- Rules of construction for mineral deeds relating to coal extraction.
    Section 20 ... Attainder, operation of restricted.
    Section 21 ... Descent in case of suicide or casualty.
    Section 22 ... Standing armies restricted -- Military subordinate to civil -- Quartering soldiers restricted.
    Section 23 ... No office of nobility or hereditary distinction, or for longer than a term of years.
    Section 24 ... Emigration to be free.
    Section 25 ... Slavery and involuntary servitude forbidden.
    Section 26 ... General powers subordinate to Bill of Rights -- Laws contrary thereto are void.


    Now the question comes, what should a free people do about an out of control state government? One is to appeal to the feds for relief. Good luck with that! The other is to ask smaller units of government to resist state tyranny. For instance there are sheriffs in Virginia who have vowed not to enforce the state's newly enacted gun control laws. But ultimately what happens in Kentucky is up to the people of Kentucky. How many have decided "enough is enough" and are willing to go against the lockdown? Who is willing to be like the salon owner in Texas who chose civil disobedience and jail rather than just sitting back and watching her children go hungry? A dictator can only be a dictator as long as the people propping him up allow him to be.
    The 9th and 10th of the BOA is crystal clear. The problem is most people are ignorant to these guidelines.

    Civil Disobedience is the only way to try and open people's eyes.
    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.Ē ~ Charles Dickens

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    I think you missed a spot on that jackboot over there. Best get back down there and get to it, slave.
    You are the one opposing a Constitutional end to tyranny.
    Stop projecting.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    I think you missed a spot on that jackboot over there. Best get back down there and get to it, slave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Will federal martial law be a more republican form of government for Kentucky?

    Nope, just a federal dictator. Worse yet.

    The answer is LESS government & more restrictions on the powers granted to gov, not changing the seat of power.
    The point is to overthrow the dictator and restore a Republic.
    Thank you for supporting the tyrant for all to see Amash would be proud of you.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The point is to overthrow the dictator and restore a Republic.
    Yes, RESIST, defeat, oppose, reject, overthrow, etc.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again



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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Yes, RESIST, defeat, oppose, reject, overthrow, etc.....

    And you are opposing the overthrow of the tyrant by means specified in the Constitution.
    Your cover is slipping.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And you are opposing the overthrow of the tyrant by means specified in the Constitution.
    Your cover is slipping.
    You can't hide behind Ruth Bader Ginsberg's skirt or Kavanaugh's either, there's nothing like that in the US Constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are the one opposing a Constitutional end to tyranny.
    Stop projecting.

    You must not be paying attention then. I'm not the one cheering on the possibility of MARTIAL LAW. That was you. Replacing one brand of tyranny with another is not freedom.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    You can't hide behind Ruth Bader Ginsberg's skirt or Kavanaugh's either, there's nothing like that in the US Constitution.
    LOL

    Read the OP.

    U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4
    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government...


    https://usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec4.html
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    You must not be paying attention then. I'm not the one cheering on the possibility of MARTIAL LAW. That was you. Replacing one brand of tyranny with another is not freedom.
    U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4
    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government...


    https://usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec4.html


    Martial Law is only a transition to a restored Republic in the state.

    Stop being pathetic.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4
    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government...


    https://usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec4.html


    Martial Law is only a transition to a restored Republic in the state.

    Stop being pathetic.

    Stop being a $#@!ing statist. Oh wait, you can't. Carry on.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Stop being a $#@!ing statist. Oh wait, you can't. Carry on.
    That would be you, the one opposing the overthrow of a tyrant and the restoration of the rule of law.
    Your cover is slipping.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That would be you, the one opposing the overthrow of a tyrant and the restoration of the rule of law.
    Your cover is slipping.

    Except I've been vociferously ADVOCATING resistance and defiance of these fascist lockdowns rigt from the beginning. And engaging in same myself. While you've been what? bashing libertarians on RPF and begging the state to allow you to be "free"? Pathetic.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Except I've been vociferously ADVOCATING resistance and defiance of these fascist lockdowns rigt from the beginning. And engaging in same myself. While you've been what? bashing libertarians on RPF and begging the state to allow you to be "free"? Pathetic.
    I've been advocating resistance and defiance all along and not just preaching to the choir here.

    But the people do not have the power to restore a Republican form of government even if they can pressure the tyrants to end certain tyrannical actions, they would be crushed if they tried.
    The Feds have the power and the duty to crush these tyrants and restore a Republican form of government and you seem to object to that happening for some strange reason.
    The Founding Fathers appealed to the King to overrule the tyranny and usurpation of Parliament, we should take their example to heart, no method of fighting for liberty should be shunned...............................UNLESS your goal is to prevent any actual progress towards liberty.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4
    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government...


    https://usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec4.html


    Martial Law is only a transition to a restored Republic in the state.

    Stop being pathetic.
    Great! That way Trump can implement red flag laws in the states that haven't done so already. Good job! Here's a better idea. The local sheriffs that don't agree with the governors orders can simply not enforce them.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I've been advocating resistance and defiance all along and not just preaching to the choir here.

    But the people do not have the power to restore a Republican form of government even if they can pressure the tyrants to end certain tyrannical actions, they would be crushed if they tried.
    The Feds have the power and the duty to crush these tyrants and restore a Republican form of government and you seem to object to that happening for some strange reason.
    The Founding Fathers appealed to the King to overrule the tyranny and usurpation of Parliament, we should take their example to heart, no method of fighting for liberty should be shunned...............................UNLESS your goal is to prevent any actual progress towards liberty.
    Funny, but one little salon owner in Texas did more to restore the republic than you or Trump. And all she did was not shut her shop down.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    The 9th and 10th of the BOA is crystal clear. The problem is most people are ignorant to these guidelines.

    Civil Disobedience is the only way to try and open people's eyes.
    Yep. That's what happened in Texas. That model should be replicated.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Funny, but one little salon owner in Texas did more to restore the republic than you or Trump. And all she did was not shut her shop down.
    She is irrelevant to this conversation, and she had to have help from those in power, the Texas Supreme Court for example.
    We should appeal to those with power, like Trump.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Great! That way Trump can implement red flag laws in the states that haven't done so already. Good job! Here's a better idea. The local sheriffs that don't agree with the governors orders can simply not enforce them.
    LOL
    Trump is not going to implement any Red Flag laws and the Governor will if a Republican form of government is not restored.
    Get all the Sheriffs you want to defy the governor, nobody said not to do other things, but not all Sheriffs will do their duty and it is a Federal duty to overthrow these tyrants and restore Republican government.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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