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    Is Trump Really Ready to Now Drain the Swamp??



    I don't follow Qnon so I can't keep up with all the theories about why Trump has been waiting for just the right moment to start "draining the swamp," by allegedly starting to unseal indictments that have been ready and sealed until "just the right time."

    Theories are abundant on this. Some believe he was waiting until he had enough judges appointed to make these charges stick, etc.

    But with Flynn now being released, and the report in the video above that Richard Grenell walked a “satchel of documents” over to the Department of Justice today for more "transcripts that will likely be released on Friday," one has to ask:

    If not now, when??

    I for one would love to see this whole current situation turned around 360 degrees with indictments and arrests for the Clintons, Fauci, Biden, and [fill in the blank with your favorite "swamp" criminals.]

    But it is probably only a dream....
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    Don't hold your breath, brother.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    Oh please...
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    This might be tad bit too soon, people would forget it by election time. Better stay ready but act few weeks before Nov 2020 elections so swamp drainer image is fresh in voters minds as they head to polls.

    That said, his strategy to establish himself as a Netayahu-Republican seems to have paid off bigly and left wing progressive zionists from Dems camp continue to show soft croner for GOPA leader. Best 3D chess in a longtime. Powers is from some holy tribes of holy land if I'm not mistaken. Grenell might be too but not certain.



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    and a replacing of RBG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    This might be tad bit too soon, people would forget it by election time. Better stay ready but act few weeks before Nov 2020 elections so swamp dariner image is fresh in voters minds as they head to polls.

    That said, his strategy to establish himself as a Netayahu-Republican seems to have paid off bigly and left wing progressive zionists from Dems camp continue to show soft croner for GOPA leader. Best 3D chess in a longtime. Powers is from some holy tribes of holy land if I'm not mistaken. Grenell might be too but not certain.
    "October Surprise".

    I've spent a lot more time over on 8 over the last few years than here.

    Some arguments include "if you tell people the truth, they'll all have to go to the hospital, and we can't have that"

    We also hear "saving Israel for last" - because a whole lot of people have pretty much concluded that Israel, Mossad, Rothschild, Soros, etc are the problem.

    Because, if you're reading Q, over on 8, you'll know that it isn't just the top of the FBI and the top of the CIA that's the problem - an easy enough problem to solve - there are layers and layers and layer of deep state. We're learning about the vaccine, medical cabal with Gates and Fauci, and the banker cabal (which we know all about) and there's the internet cabal which wasn't what it was when we were getting started here in 2007.

    But, on the other hand, it could all just be total BS, Trump wasn't going to even try to fix all these problems that have gotten worse since he became President. Who knows? He's trying to win reelection, and I'm guessing that they know that if they don't do much of anything, they win. Fighting hard to fix problems might very well piss someone off, or a lot of people off, and lead to a loss.

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    Looking more and more like Obama is going to be on that list too.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    "October Surprise".

    I've spent a lot more time over on 8 over the last few years than here.

    Some arguments include "if you tell people the truth, they'll all have to go to the hospital, and we can't have that"

    We also hear "saving Israel for last" - because a whole lot of people have pretty much concluded that Israel, Mossad, Rothschild, Soros, etc are the problem.

    Because, if you're reading Q, over on 8, you'll know that it isn't just the top of the FBI and the top of the CIA that's the problem - an easy enough problem to solve - there are layers and layers and layer of deep state. We're learning about the vaccine, medical cabal with Gates and Fauci, and the banker cabal (which we know all about) and there's the internet cabal which wasn't what it was when we were getting started here in 2007.

    But, on the other hand, it could all just be total BS, Trump wasn't going to even try to fix all these problems that have gotten worse since he became President. Who knows? He's trying to win reelection, and I'm guessing that they know that if they don't do much of anything, they win. Fighting hard to fix problems might very well piss someone off, or a lot of people off, and lead to a loss.
    What will happen if Joe Biden wins? Its clear and pointed out that leftists want to end neutral energy sector jobs which would even force more American jobless on the food banks, this Green Deal that Biden team is pushing is a laughable joke.

    I did find amusing how the glorious socialist MSNBC always somehow have a poll of showing Biden beating by 50% to 41%? lol dispute the fact that they have only polled a small 1k polling which doesn't say much.

    Election might get delayed at best if numbers continue or second wave happens by Sep or Nov.



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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    This might be tad bit too soon, people would forget it by election time. Better stay ready but act few weeks before Nov 2020 elections so swamp dariner image is fresh in voters minds as they head to polls.
    With the economy tanking with depression-like numbers, he can't wait until end of summer or fall, because the only thing that will be on people's minds is why are they out of work? And maybe not able to buy pork or beef either, and quite a few other things that will be blamed on him.

    No, if he has been "fooled" by Fauci and Brix, the time to act is now because otherwise there will be nothing left even resembling a Republic by fall. Kind of like now or never.
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
    (1 John 4:18)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    With the economy tanking with depression-like numbers, he can't wait until end of summer or fall, because the only thing that will be on people's minds is why are they out of work? And maybe not able to buy pork or beef either, and quite a few other things that will be blamed on him.

    No, if he has been "fooled" by Fauci and Brix, the time to act is now because otherwise there will be nothing left even resembling a Republic by fall. Kind of like now or never.
    If people and idiotic American women vote for Joe Biden there will be more Americans out of work with his Green deal. I am really not sure if media trying to keep Biden Hidden will even actually work out in their favor, so far Biden has saying ridicules things and this new green deal is no exception, right now with millions of Americans out of work how could Biden and Democrats even think about the new green deal?

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    Shalom

    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Not going to believe it one bit.
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    Calvin Coolidge

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

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    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post

    The self-delusion is strong in some people.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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    If Trump were serious he'd appoint Flynn as head of the F.B.I. He should still have the Senate votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    If Trump were serious he'd appoint Flynn as head of the F.B.I. He should still have the Senate votes.
    Looks like the resistance crowd is not happy that Flynn is freed or that his innocent now they are losing all the pot and argument.

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    I posted this in another thread, but will post it here too

    Aside from Coronavirus and the economy, I was reading this Twitter thread. Interesting thread, is Trump about to prove me wrong and is $#@! really about to hit the fan with him actually draining the swamp? Again, I’ll believe it when I see it. https://twitter.com/domenicadelia22/...464741377?s=21

    and then there was this guy’s thread that he attached to the thread. Again, interesting. https://twitter.com/edibal2/status/1...308853248?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Looking more and more like Obama is going to be on that list too.
    Looks like you called it dannno!



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    Actually, I heard trump is going to use the fines collected when draining the swamp to pay off the entire national debt.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

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    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Looks to me like Trump sometimes has a hard time, identifying the swamp.

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    The criminals working in our federal government have been exposed, I like that. It seems to me that there is a very good chance that some of these criminals will be arrested, I like that even more. We will have to wait and see if it happens, but this certainly appears to be anything but business as usual.

    It seems to me that Peter Strzok is in serious trouble.

    If we see any government workers arrested, will that change anyone's opinion here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    If we see any government workers arrested, will that change anyone's opinion here?
    When legal tender, licenses, regulations, permits, taxes, accreditation, registrations, approvals, entitlements, and patents become contractual private sector constructs instead of State mandates; my opinion will change.

    Until then,

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    The criminals working in our federal government have been exposed, I like that. It seems to me that there is a very good chance that some of these criminals will be arrested, I like that even more. We will have to wait and see if it happens, but this certainly appears to be anything but business as usual.

    It seems to me that Peter Strzok is in serious trouble.

    If we see any government workers arrested, will that change anyone's opinion here?
    If Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama are indicted on criminal charges, that would certainly change my opinion....
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
    (1 John 4:18)

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    When legal tender, licenses, regulations, permits, taxes, accreditation, registrations, approvals, entitlements, and patents become contractual private sector constructs instead of State mandates; my opinion will change.

    Until then,
    ^^^THIS^^^
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    If Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama are indicted on criminal charges, that would certainly change my opinion....
    At this point I wouldn't believe it even if I saw it. I remember the video of Hillary being "arrested" during the 2016 campaign that proved to be a fake. As a tinfoil wearer, I certainly wouldn't put it past any of them to stage an arrest scene if they thought it would advance the narrative that Red Donnie isn't part of their club. My understanding of the current legal system would make me highly question any such arrests, as federal legal jurisdiction over people, Hillary and Obama included, arises from any status as a "US Citizen". Renouncing of US Citizen status deprives the DC federal corporation of legal jurisdiction over anybody outside of the Washington DC sovereign city where the federal corporation is based. I'd think those attorneys (Hillary, Obama, etc) so involved in the upper echelons of corporate government would be well aware of how the federal legal system really works.
    Last edited by devil21; 05-11-2020 at 09:44 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    I don't follow Qnon
    Good..
    Just Psyop anyway..

    Trying to convince half-ass conservatives that a Democrat is a Republican ..

    and that there is a "plan" to all the convoluted confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    When legal tender, licenses, regulations, permits, taxes, accreditation, registrations, approvals, entitlements, and patents become contractual private sector constructs instead of State mandates; my opinion will change.

    Until then,
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    The criminals working in our federal government have been exposed, I like that. It seems to me that there is a very good chance that some of these criminals will be arrested, I like that even more. We will have to wait and see if it happens, but this certainly appears to be anything but business as usual.

    It seems to me that Peter Strzok is in serious trouble.
    What does 'seems to' mean in this situation? You say that twice here.

    My guess is that it means 'nothing has actually happened but it feels like maybe something might have happened if I hope hard enough and watch enough youtube videos.'



    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    If we see any government workers arrested, will that change anyone's opinion here?
    Depends on the circumstances. "Any government workers" is extraordinarily vague, so my answer would be no, it wouldn't change my opinion. The reason that I say that is because pizzagaters will attempt to use the arrest of literally any pedophile or child abuser as proof of colonies of sex slaves on Mars, when obviously those two things have nothing to do with each other. Seems like it's an easy way to move the goalposts away from the original claims of what would happen.



    Overall, this is a continuation of the same meme which began in 2015 and will continue forever. It is a religious belief at this point.
    Last edited by TheCount; 05-11-2020 at 11:13 AM.
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