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    Exclamation General Flynn Exonerated!

    AP Exclusive: Justice Dept dropping Flynn's criminal case
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp
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    DOJ Drops Michael Flynn Prosecution

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/break...rce=whatfinger

    Joel B. Pollak 7 May 2020

    The Department of Justice is reportedly dropping its prosecution of former National Security Adviser General Michael Flynn (Ret.), according to the Associated Press.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Department is dropping criminal case against ex-Trump adviser Flynn, according to court filing obtained by AP.

    — Mike Balsamo (@MikeBalsamo1) May 7, 2020

    The news comes a week after new evidence released to Flynn’s lawyers showed FBI agents apparently attempting to trap Flynn into lying to them, hoping he would be prosecuted or fired. The evidence also suggested they knew he had not committed a separate crime.

    Earlier Thursday, prosecutor Brandon Van Grack withdrew from the case.

    Flynn had been director of the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Barack Obama but was fired. He then joined Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, shaping its foreign policy and introducing Trump at rallies.

    After Trump won, Flynn shaped the national security policies of the incoming administration and was picked to serve as National Security Adviser. In that capacity, he held conversations with foreign officials, including then-Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

    Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak were picked up by wiretaps of the ambassador, and his name was “unmasked” by Obama administration officials and leaked to the media. At the same time, the Obama Department of Justice investigated Flynn under the Logan Act of 1799, which prevents private citizens from conducting diplomacy but is rarely enforced.

    Though the FBI found no evidence of wrongdoing — as shown in documents produced by the FBI to Flynn’s lawyer, Sidney Powell, last week — senior officials kept the case open.

    Then-FBI Director James Comey sent FBI agents to meet with Flynn informally at the White House, hoping to trap Flynn into lying about his conversations with Kislyak.

    Flynn was later prosecuted for lying to the FBI, and pleaded guilty, under pressure and on the advice of his former counsel from Covington and Burling LLP. He lost his position in the White House and had to sell his house to pay his legal fees.

    At the time, Flynn’s prosecution was seen by Democrats and the media as the foundation for Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of supposed “collusion” between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    But Mueller found no evidence of “collusion,” and as evidence began to emerge of misconduct by the FBI and the DOJ, Flynn moved earlier this year to withdraw his guilty plea.

    The case against Flynn is now over.
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    So, now, who is going to be held accountable for using the justice system to destroy this man's life for political gain?

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    The Mueller team prosecutor, Brandon Van Grack, is trying to save his career. He illegally withheld Brady evidence. Judge Sullivan would have exonerated Flynn just as he did with Ted Stevens. Sullivan would have likely filed a report with the Bar Association recommending they cancel Van Grack's law license. That may still happen.

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    Then-FBI Director James Comey sent FBI agents to meet with Flynn informally at the White House, hoping to trap Flynn into lying about his conversations with Kislyak.

    Flynn was later prosecuted for lying to the FBI, and pleaded guilty, under pressure and on the advice of his former counsel from Covington and Burling LLP. He lost his position in the White House and had to sell his house to pay his legal fees.

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    If this doesn't show you just how corrupt the current Democratic Party is and what a profound bunch of liars they are, then you have to be totally blind. I hope he sues the ever living $#@! out of everybody involved in this entire charade.
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    Awesome!!

    Hope he goes back into GOV & into a powerful position that best suits him & our Country

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    I think it would be great to put Flynn in charge of the FBI. Then you would see some real passion for cleaning $#@! up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I think it would be great to put Flynn in charge of the FBI. Then you would see some real passion for cleaning $#@! up.
    THIS.

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    This is going to make the democrats and MSM look very bad before the general election in Nov, they accused General Flynn wrongful. So what if the general went to a dinner where there was Putin?

    Maybe there should questions on the MSM and Media and why the media is defending the Chinese gov heavily?

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    I suspect he paid the price for saying "Lock Her Up", Clintons have strong pull with globalsit neocons on both sides R & D labels game of the gullibles. Ironically, none of the Swamp Was Drained while MF was subject of investigations.




    To give credit where due, GOPA leader himself nver said 'Lock Her Up' and just smirked while his supporters chanted that slogan at rallies during election season non-fooling phase.




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    It now seems the General Flynn was under investigation long before was common knowledge. It would have been impossible for me to know this but, if that was the case, and with me being one of two people who would become president, why was I not told so that I could make a change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Awesome!!

    Hope he goes back into GOV & into a powerful position that best suits him & our Country
    I couldn't agree more and this is one man President Trump can truly trust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I think it would be great to put Flynn in charge of the FBI. Then you would see some real passion for cleaning $#@! up.
    Absolutely!

    Just don't forget these words from Chuck Schumer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I think it would be great to put Flynn in charge of the FBI. Then you would see some real passion for cleaning $#@! up.
    Sounds great.

    Flynn is needed in the NSC, he was about to help Trump get rid of MIC/INTEL deep state actors, thats why he was knocked out first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Absolutely!

    Just don't forget these words from Chuck Schumer...

    Regardless of what some here say when they pretend that Trump is just another neocon, the globalists are losing.

    Did you see Comey's tweet to the Deep State yesterday?



    Once Trump wins in Nov, the career deep state people will be jumping ship like the rats that they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Regardless of what some here say when they pretend that Trump is just another neocon, the globalists are losing.

    Did you see Comey's tweet to the Deep State yesterday?



    Once Trump wins in Nov, the career deep state people will be jumping ship like the rats that they are.
    $5 says I bet they wont be. I believe Trump will more than likely win in November too, but he wont be draining $hit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEF View Post
    $5 says I bet they wont be. I believe Trump will more than likely win in November too, but he wont be draining $hit.
    I don't have any delusions about cleaning DC up, that will forever be a swamp. I do see some really bad corrupt people leaving though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    AP Exclusive: Justice Dept dropping Flynn's criminal case
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp
    "exoneration" is a fake word buddy. Communists invented that. Its not a legal term in our republic. "exoneration" is the opposite of "innocent until proven guilty"
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    "exoneration" is a fake word buddy. Communists invented that. Its not a legal term in our republic. "exoneration" is the opposite of "innocent until proven guilty"
    Okay, vindicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Okay, vindicated.
    Not even that. Vindication of someone accused of an offense, in law, means that the accused has been through the process to completion and the evidence, by unanimous decision of a jury and/or a judge, has failed to demonstrate their guilt - there's no chance that the accused will be prosecuted again for the same instance of the offense they're accused of. What's transpired here is that the prosecution has terminated the process before the process reached a conclusion. There's nothing stopping another prosecutor (say in a subsequent Democratic administration) from picking the charges up again and proceeding with another prosecution, so long as the statute of limitations for the offense has not expired.
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 05-09-2020 at 08:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Not even that. Vindication of someone accused of an offense, in law, means that the accused has been through the process and the evidence, as evaluated by a jury or judge, has failed to prove them guilty - there's no chance that the accused will be prosecuted again for the same instance of the offense they're accused of. What's transpired here is that the prosecution has terminated the process before the process reached a conclusion. There's nothing stopping another prosecutor (say in a subsequent Democratic administration) from picking the charges up again and proceeding with another prosecution, so long as the statute of limitations for the offense has not expired.
    Good Lord, okay he has been found not-guilty of rogue FBI agents entrapment charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Good Lord, okay he has been found not-guilty of rogue FBI agents entrapment charges.
    No, that's just it. He hasn't been found NOT GUILTY of anything; there hasn't been any finding. If you want to be vindicated or found not guilty, then you have to wait for the legal process to complete and make that determination. Still to be determined is whether the judge in the matter will dismiss the charges, or with what conditions if he does. I can't see any reason that he wouldn't, but judges are black-robed pharaohs within their realm and are generally loathe to dismiss charges against someone who has admitted guilt. This one had personally accepted Flynn's guilty plea and might be miffed that political forces are at play to free someone who admitted guilt. The judge could be swayed by the fact that Van Grack withdrew from the case so abruptly (which could indicate to the judge that political forces were at play in dropping the charges). Here's what's yet to come:
    It is now up to the federal judge in Washington overseeing the case, Emmet G. Sullivan, to decide whether to dismiss it and close off the possibility that Flynn could be tried again for the same crime. If the judge wants, he could ask for written submissions and hold a hearing on that topic.
    Sullivan, who accepted Flynn’s original guilty plea, could also weigh in on whether he believes any of the new materials that the government has produced to Flynn’s lawyers represent any violation on the part of the Justice Department or its lawyers who worked on the case.
    It's quite possible that the judge will deduce that Flynn was coerced into his guilty plea - but how sure are you that the judge (that pharaoh in the black robe who used to be a prosecutor) will find that the evidence which was withheld was exculpatory? I think Flynn, throughout this legal process, has demonstrated the utmost decorum and respect to the court - and that works in his favor. But he did plead guilty, and the judge is going to have to reach his own conclusion on what that actually means. So it's a matter of whether he dismisses with prejudice (case is over) or without prejudice (charges could be refiled at a later date). And given that Flynn submitted a guilty plea, the judge might think it worthwhile to hold open the possibility of a second shot at this.

    Imagine being in Flynn's position without the connections, power and resources that Flynn can tap into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    No, that's just it. He hasn't been found NOT GUILTY of anything; there hasn't been any finding. If you want to be vindicated or found not guilty, then you have to wait for the legal process to complete and make that determination. Still to be determined is whether the judge in the matter will dismiss the charges. I can't see any reason that he wouldn't, but judges are black-robed pharaohs within their realm and are generally loathe to dismiss charges against someone who has admitted guilt. This one had accepted Flynn's guilty plea and might be miffed that someone who pled guilty may be set free. The judge could be swayed by the fact that Van Grack withdrew from the case so abruptly (which could indicate to the judge that political forces were at play in dropping the charges). Here's what's yet to come:


    It's quite possible that the judge will deduce that Flynn was coerced into his guilty plea - but how sure are you that the judge (that pharaoh in the black robe who used to be a prosecutor) will find that the evidence which was withheld was exculpatory? I think Flynn, throughout this legal process, has demonstrated the utmost decorum and respect to the court - and that works in his favor. But he did plead guilty, and the judge is going to have to reach his own conclusion on what that actually means.

    Imagine being in Flynn's position without the connections, power and resources that Flynn can tap into.
    Oh I understand. Judge Sullivan has to make the final decision, but if he chooses to not drop the charges I suspect his comfy career is over. Especially now that General Flynn has Sydney Powell on his team.
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    Flynn's plea agreement documents can be read here: https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-...ment-documents

    Note that although he was charged with and pleaded guilty to only lying to the FBI, the Statement of the Offense document (which Flynn admitted was accurate) says that he also made false statements in a filing with the Department of Justice relating to his company's lobbying efforts on behalf of Turkey. Per paragraph 3 of the Plea Agreement, the government agreed not to prosecute him for this matter.

    Query: if the judge throws out Flynn's guilty plea, can he be prosecuted for his false filings with the DOJ? This is really an academic question, since there's no way Trump would allow Barr to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Oh I understand. Judge Sullivan has to make the final decision, but if he chooses to not drop the charges I suspect his comfy career is over. Especially now that General Flynn has Sydney Powell on his team.
    And so now you have it - like they say, "It ain't over til the fat lady sings"

    Judge blocks effort to drop charges against Michael Flynn

    A U.S. judge put on hold the Justice Department’s move to drop charges against Michael Flynn, saying he expects independent groups and legal experts to argue against the bid to exonerate President Trump’s former national security adviser of lying to the FBI.
    U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan said in an order Tuesday that he expects individuals and organizations will seek to intervene in the politically charged case. Having others weigh in could preface more aggressive steps that the federal judge in Washington could take, including — as many outside observers have called for — holding a hearing to consider what to do.
    Sullivan’s order came after the government took the highly irregular step Thursday of reversing its stance on upholding Flynn’s guilty plea. The action by Sullivan, a veteran 72-year-old jurist with a national reputation for advocating defendants’ rights to full government disclosure of evidence, appears to rule out immediate action on the Justice Department’s decision to reverse course and throw out Flynn’s December 2017 guilty plea.
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    Does anyone who's happy about this news actually like Flynn, or is it just that you dislike the Dems, and they dislike him?

    For all the Flynn talk, I don't recall anyone ever explaining why he's a good guy who we should be cheering on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    And so now you have it - like they say, "It ain't over til the fat lady sings"

    Judge blocks effort to drop charges against Michael Flynn
    Do not underestimate Sydney Powell, she is not someone to tackle with.

    Sidney Powell Argues that Judge Sullivan Can’t Appoint an Amicus at Same Time as Applauding the Time He Did Far More
    https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/05/1...-did-far-more/
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Do not underestimate Sydney Powell, she is not someone to tackle with.

    Sidney Powell Argues that Judge Sullivan Can’t Appoint an Amicus at Same Time as Applauding the Time He Did Far More
    https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/05/1...-did-far-more/
    From FR:

    Flynn Case Docket ...

    May 13, 2020

    MINUTE ORDER as to MICHAEL T. FLYNN. On May 11, 2020, Chambers
    received proposed amici curiae’s “Notice of Intent to File
    Motion for Leave to File Brief as Amicus Curiae or Application
    Under Local Rule 57.6” and “Statement of Interest.” In light
    of the Court’s forthcoming Scheduling Order governing the
    submission of any amicus curiae briefs, leave to file the
    submission by proposed amici curiae is DENIED. The Clerk of
    Court is directed not to docket the filing submitted by
    proposed amici curiae. Signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on
    5/13/2020. (lcegs3)


    May 13, 2020
    MINUTE ORDER as to MICHAEL T. FLYNN denying 201 Defendant’s
    Sealed Motion for Leave to File Document Under Seal;
    construing 203 Defendant’s Sealed Document as a motion and
    denying as moot the relief requested; denying as moot 204
    Defendant’s Motion to Strike and Opposition to Notice of
    Intent to File Motion for Leave to File Amicus Brief. Signed
    by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on 5/13/2020. (lcegs3)


    Good news. The “Watergate Prosecutors” are not going to get Sullivan’s microphone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Does anyone who's happy about this news actually like Flynn, or is it just that you dislike the Dems, and they dislike him?

    For all the Flynn talk, I don't recall anyone ever explaining why he's a good guy who we should be cheering on.
    He sure as $#@! is a lot more useful to liberty than you.
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