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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Since Collin's thread title can be interpreted as Amash denouncing protests, here's the actual Amash quote:
"Everybody has the right to protest and I think the governor overreached in a lot of ways. I denounce and condemn the nazi symbols that were used in some protests and I think it's a terrible idea to come in with weapons, as it might be perceived as intimidation of legislators. Everyone has the right to protest and we're a state that cares about our rights and our freedoms."
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
pity. The government is revolting, why aren't you?
Hmmmm
Me not like...him speak with fork demon tongue
FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!
why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide
Baptiste said.
At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?
You know what? I kind of agree with Amash. I do support these guys right to bear arms. I would never support any law that takes away that right. But honestly did you really need to show up with an AR15 strapped to your back? It just freaks out the liberals and dilutes your message. If you really feel a threat to your safety carry a pistol concealed. If the day comes when it gets bad enough we need to open carry long guns for our safety, I will be there alongside you fighting.
Thanks for the quote. I sorta agree with him on this. I think it should be legal but if I was to protest this, I will do all I can to avoid giving the media any extra animoto demonize us.
No political flags, no guns, no silly signs etc etc.. just focus on the issue at home and get your message across
+rep
Oh Please. Intimidating legislators? What a Soyboy. Read the Preamble to the U.S. Declaration of Independence!
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Yeah, just another reason for me to dismiss this guy.as it might be perceived as intimidation of legislators
Of course that's the purpose...just like mere act of displaying a firearm is many times all it takes to intimidate and discourage a criminal attack.
When a poohbah or ruler gets up on a podium and announces that "my new rules are such and such and so and so" and if you don't comply you will be harshly punished, and behind them are a whole phalanx of scowling, stern faced cops, keen to bust heads and force compliance...what the $#@! is that but "intimidation"?
“Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee
I believe at this point trying to win hearts and minds should be priority. This lockdown still have majority support. The media has brainwashed people into thinking that this virus is going to kill em all. We lose the public debate and we will be swallowed up by the new laws.
What in the actual $#@! is going on with Amash? His actions are bewildering and I can't make any sense of it. I can't tell if hes showing his true colors or if he's being blackmailed.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
I notice Amash does not seem upset that people may feel intimidated by the legislature posting armed police to stop the people from speaking with the legislators.
The lesson, your armed neighbor is a bigger threat than what happens at the Capital.
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“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
WTF is with all the Amash hate? The bloody world is falling apart & y'all are booing & hissing over Amash?
Looks like the old game of taking everyone's eye off the mark so TPTB can finalize our prison.
There is no spoon.
Speaking for myself, it is not hate at all. It's disgust, by the comments he sheepishly said. He is clearly not representing the people and the constitution. We have played nice for far too long, and these people think it is a sign of weakness.
Exercising our rights only points out that we are not weak.
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“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Unbelievable. Thread after thread for a few years now, what is it going to take for Amash to be removed from "Defenders of Liberty" and some people here continuing to support this traitor.
Effectively comparing any protester carrying as being a Nazi. Exactly the narrative the news media and the far left want to represent which he continues to carry water for. This is indefensible.
Amash Condemns Trump's Red Flag Law
vs
Trump's Sr. Advisor Ivanka is Advising Her Father to Stand For Red Flag Gun Controls
EM.
On a related note, Trump administration is also condemning and taking notice of such protests.
Coronavirus Crisis Unleashed 'Tsunami' of anti-Semitism, Trump Official Says
Special envoy Elan Carr says his office is closely monitoring online expressions of anti-Semitism around the world, clearly seeing an uptick in hate speech caused amid the spread of COVID-19
Washington May 05, 2020
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One thing I learned from the Virginia rally a few months ago is that armed protesters don't get shot, tazed, sprayed, or shut down. The cops pretty much just let them be because they don't want to force an armed conflict (cops would probably lose).
And while I too prefer not having armed people at a protest, the reality is that in many cases it is now necessary to protect oneself from government abuse. Justin's messaging is wrong and once again throws his base under the bus.
At this point he may not even get the LP nomination.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
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Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
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