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    Time Is Here.

    People have been suckered by political elites for thousands of years. It is perhaps the oldest game in the book - those in power concocting some nonsense, usually of a sort that often preys upon human clannishness and fear.

    In all the times prior to about 1980 ( arbitrarily picked year ), the fact that people fell for it time and again could be forgiven if we are to be voluminously over-generous. But since then, what with all that has developed in terms of global information, no. I cannot forgive the willful ignorance and utter stupidity of the average man who, having been fooled over and over again with the same clapped-out tricks that should lure nobody with an IQ, jumps on the bandwagon of corruption, either with glee, hatred, or terror in his eyes.

    Just to keep things to the past 100 or so years, we got suckered into the Spanish-American war, then the Great War. Then we took it in the neck with the manufactured depression of 1929 and not long thereafter the second great war. Then we fell for the phoney baloney discrediting of those who warned us against the threats of communism. Then Korea, Viet Nam, the Middle East, 9/11, back to the Middle East for twenty years of waste, and now and perhaps most ridiculously of all, the newest load of bull$#@! called "Covid-19".

    I will not go into all the details of how this "crisis" fails the smell test - it makes my head hurt. But I will say this: compared with the destruction of the economy, the virus is a non-issue, and destruction is exactly where we're headed.

    I've heard that the farmers are beginning to cull their livestock herds, now that the processing plants are being closed. Closing meat processors? Are Theye mad? Or perhaps Theye know precisely what they are doing.

    What astounds me beyond words is the cow-eyed obedience with which people have comported themselves with every idiotic edict that has spewed from the yaps of the likes of Fauci, Fredo the Elder, Kate Brown, and so on down the nauseating list of vipers.

    And to be honest, I have to question Trump, appointing Fauci in the first place. My understanding is that Fauci wants to fellate Hillary in the worst way and absolutely hates and despises Trump. Given this, what brand of stupid possessed Trump to appoint Fauci to his current position? I can think of only three things - either non-credible levels of naivete, he's in on the maneuver, or he's trying (stupidly) to be "inclusive"... perhaps to try and relieve some of the wild warring that is being waged against him by the "left"? Either way, his choice makes no rational sense whatsoever.

    So what exactly do people think is going to happen when food starts disappearing? Given what I've seen happen in places like WV where FAR more people are well-prepared for trouble than the people of most of the rest of America, things will go native in a great hurry the moment they cannot get food, and panic begins to settle in. Americans, by and large, are NOWHERE prepared for that contingency, yet they stupidly comply with every idiotic command issued by people not worth a damn and whose concern for our better interests is eminently questionable under far better circumstances than this. The willful cowardice of the average American is proving more disgusting than even I had anticipated.

    It seems to me that time is here to decide, choose, and to act. Sitting idly behind closed doors, shivering and quaking in fear of the nasty little virus as the world around you crumbles into the Pit is not going to work out well for anyone except perhaps Themme. I don't know what Theye want in specific, i.e. whether to gain more control or to see millions die, but I submit it doesn't matter because the result will be the same.

    Those in the midwest who are protesting have the right idea in mind, but they are not nearly enough. Are we going to sit by as the economy is imploded and our fates fall into deep question? I fear that the answer is yes.

    We, and I mean everyone here and everyone we know and they know need to start misbehaving in big ways, but even that is not enough. How do we get businesses, which are mostly corporations and as such legally beholden to "government", to open up as they were and defy state orders to the contrary? How does one turn cowardice into courage?

    We're walking a razor's edge and it is high time we started taking this circumstance seriously. It is time to grow the hell up and to defy Themme with every fiber because this one feels like it will otherwise result in a terrible new world for us, which is already far worse than anyone should have to endure.
    Last edited by osan; 04-27-2020 at 06:16 AM.
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    Well. $#@!ing. Said.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    It's a war against us. It's no different than if than if someone held a gun to your head. They know exactly what they're doing. Some of their useful idiot minions may be brainwashed about "the virus" (which doesn't exist) but those pulling the strings want nothing less than total destruction and mass murder. Now what?
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

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    I stopped in at Aldi today to pick up a few things. Everybody was wearing masks, at least half of the people wore latex gloves. When I got the checkout, I made a comment about how sterile this society will become, and that the young generation will not be able to build a proper immune system. I then asked why would the government go to such lengths, over a flu that happens every year, wrecking the economy, keeping us in lock down mode, etc. The cashier told me that I had No Right questioning the government. The folks behind me agreed with her, and then I was sternly told that I must leave.

    This is NOT going to end well. I suspect with the secret spying on cellphones and social media, the government knows much more than I do, and believe that the time is ripe to proceed with their agenda, with near full compliance.

    If we do not stand now, there will be no going back. As I think of ways to get us out of this stinking mess, I am open to suggestions.
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    Exclamation Chairman Don

    Communism has come to America, aka YangBanger Wealth Spread Socialist President Donnell Trump.

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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Now what?
    ​DEFY.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    People have been suckered by political elites for thousands of years. It is perhaps the oldest game in the book - those in power concocting some nonsense, usually of a sort that often preys upon human clannishness and fear.

    In all the times prior to about 1980 ( arbitrarily picked year ), the fact that people fell for it time and again could be forgiven if we are to be voluminously over-generous. But since then, what with all that has developed in terms of global information, no. I cannot forgive the willful ignorance and utter stupidity of the average man who, having been fooled over and over again with the same clapped-out tricks that should lure nobody with an IQ, jumps on the bandwagon of corruption, either with glee, hatred, or terror in his eyes.

    Just to keep things to the past 100 or so years, we got suckered into the Spanish-American war, then the Great War. Then we took it in the neck with the manufactured depression of 1929 and not long thereafter the second great war. Then we fell for the phoney baloney discrediting of those who warned us against the threats of communism. Then Korea, Viet Nam, the Middle East, 9/11, back to the Middle East for twenty years of waste, and now and perhaps most ridiculously of all, the newest load of bull$#@! called "Covid-19".

    I will not go into all the details of how this "crisis" fails the smell test - it makes my head hurt.
    ....
    EM.

    Curious, do you consider below statements to be part of this phenomenon where people are being "suckered" as your argued above?


    Jeff: (01:36:07)
    Are you concerned, sir, about the growing US national debt as a result of these stimulus packages?
    Donald Trump
    : (01:36:12)
    Oh, we have no choice. Do we have a choice? I’m always concerned about everything. We had to fix this problem. This was… We were attacked. This was an attack. This wasn’t just OG, and this wasn’t the flu, by the way. They like to say the flu. Nobody has ever seen anything like this. 1917, was the last time. We were attacked…

    2.2 million would have died 'if we did nothing': Trump
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0bbDK6WZ_w

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    ​DEFY.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again



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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I stopped in at Aldi today to pick up a few things. Everybody was wearing masks, at least half of the people wore latex gloves. When I got the checkout, I made a comment about how sterile this society will become, and that the young generation will not be able to build a proper immune system. I then asked why would the government go to such lengths, over a flu that happens every year, wrecking the economy, keeping us in lock down mode, etc. The cashier told me that I had No Right questioning the government. The folks behind me agreed with her, and then I was sternly told that I must leave.

    This is NOT going to end well. I suspect with the secret spying on cellphones and social media, the government knows much more than I do, and believe that the time is ripe to proceed with their agenda, with near full compliance.

    If we do not stand now, there will be no going back. As I think of ways to get us out of this stinking mess, I am open to suggestions.
    3%. That number makes a lot of sense after watching the cattle being herded the past month. 3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    3%. That number makes a lot of sense after watching the cattle being herded the past month. 3%
    The msm is ahead of you. Didn't you see the latest news? Some kicker for the Patriots had a 3% tattoo. The msm had a hissy fit over it and now labels 3% a far right racist hate group or some nonsense. They shamed him into getting it removed.

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    I love how people are somehow able to continue pretending that Trump is anti-state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I love how people are somehow able to continue pretending that Trump is anti-state.
    that is the other preexisting Psyop ,

    to convince the Torch and Pitchfork's to trust the "Plan" and to trust the New York Democrat that bought the Republican Ticket.

    because a "Q" Spook said so

    Psychological Warfare.. Trust No One
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I stopped in at Aldi today to pick up a few things. Everybody was wearing masks, at least half of the people wore latex gloves. When I got the checkout, I made a comment about how sterile this society will become, and that the young generation will not be able to build a proper immune system. I then asked why would the government go to such lengths, over a flu that happens every year, wrecking the economy, keeping us in lock down mode, etc. The cashier told me that I had No Right questioning the government. The folks behind me agreed with her, and then I was sternly told that I must leave.

    This is NOT going to end well. I suspect with the secret spying on cellphones and social media, the government knows much more than I do, and believe that the time is ripe to proceed with their agenda, with near full compliance.

    If we do not stand now, there will be no going back. As I think of ways to get us out of this stinking mess, I am open to suggestions.
    Where in the country are you?

    I read at the Democratic Underground nearly every day (yuck) and what you described is exactly the kind of $#@! said on the board in every thread. I swear, it's like reading a Stasi forum. I mean, in case anyone thought things said about Democrats were too broad brush or harsh, uh, no. They are scary stupid and have an intense hatred for any kind of talk about rights and freedom - unless it's trans rights or some stupid like that, of course.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    ​DEFY.
    Yes, do that but more has to be done. A lone person defying the enforcers gets arrested, thrown in jail, etc.

    I had an epiphany a little while ago, this evening. Some may say well, duh, but it hit me like a ton of bricks. We are in the middle of a coup d'etat, RIGHT NOW. All of the Russians this and the Russians that and the impeachment was the lead up or the attempted coup but THIS IS IT. This is as sure a coup as if tanks were rolling through the streets. Because they aren't, it's not being recognized for what it is but this IS the coup! There are no laws now and that needs to be understood. An enemy force, far better organized than we, has occupied us. It's all about forces, now, and they have them and we don't. We have the numbers and a lot of guns but without organization, we get picked off one at a time. This is a coup without bullets - so far.
    Last edited by susano; 04-26-2020 at 09:41 PM.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    EM.

    Curious, do you consider below statements to be part of this phenomenon where people are being "suckered" as your argued above?


    Jeff: (01:36:07)
    Are you concerned, sir, about the growing US national debt as a result of these stimulus packages?
    Donald Trump
    : (01:36:12)
    Oh, we have no choice. Do we have a choice? I’m always concerned about everything. We had to fix this problem. This was… We were attacked. This was an attack. This wasn’t just OG, and this wasn’t the flu, by the way. They like to say the flu. Nobody has ever seen anything like this. 1917, was the last time. We were attacked…

    2.2 million would have died 'if we did nothing': Trump
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0bbDK6WZ_w
    That is a very difficult thing to determine. There are several possibilities. Is Trump in on the conspiracy? I have no idea. Because of the general outward appearances... Demos express hatred of him and all their chicanery in their ostensive attempts at getting rid of him, one feels compelled to believe what they see. Indeed it may be what we think we are witnessing, but I would not rest easy in accepting it as fact without evidence that would leave me with no other rational and honest choices.

    Could this all be theater, Trump being an integral part of it? I believe it could. The more convincing, the greater the prospects for success. Theye are not stupid by any stretch, contrary to what so many seem to believe. Theye have been at work on this for at least 125 years, and I suspect a good deal longer than that. An intergenerational project for the soul of the world is not tossed to chance, especially so far along the path of so great a labor as this. Therefore, no level of deceit would surprise me. But I have no direct evidence that Trump is a mole of sorts, but some of the things he says and does leaves me wondering about his truer nature and goals. He treads a very interesting and fine line between being believable and saying things that disallow me from trusting what is being projected.

    It is certainly possible that he is being advised by those who are Theire agents and is therefore playing into Theire hands... dancing to their tune, as it were. How would we be able to tell the difference? I'm not sure there is a way to do so.

    Look at some of the cabinet choices Trump has made - Bolton is a loser of the first order. Fauci? What WAS he thinking?

    Consider Bush the younger - I am not convinced he was a bad man, but the people with whom he surrounded himself were first-class scum, so no wonder his presidency was cluster-copulation.

    2.2 million... How would Trump even know to spew such an idiotic number, save that one of this trusted advisors whispered it into his ear?

    There has been so much baloney spewed about this bug, it is no wonder the weak-minded typical American dope (not to mention the rest of the world's populations) is freaking out. Back in December I think it was, I was myself speculating that as reported, the virus was strongly suspect as a bio-agent that got away from the communist Chinese. Now however, the characteristics as reported early on appear to have all be outright false or deeply exaggerated.

    Even the so-called "experts" seem to be full of $#@!. We've gone from dire predictions of millions dead to hundreds of thousands, to tens of thousands... so we were off thus far by at least two full orders of magnitude, and more.

    There are many factors that could contribute to this outcome. Which ones are actual factors is anyone's guess. Nobody is to be trusted on this matter, IMO, ESPECIALLY "government" and its "experts". I do not trust CDC to the end of my dick... OK that's miles... my nose, how about that. WHO is a glaringly evil institution who should not be trusted to tell us water is wet.

    And here is the REAL rub, and for me proof of why we the humans of earth must return to anarchistic life and butcher to the man any group getting too big for its breeches: if we comply with the commandments of government, perhaps we get through in one physical piece, our rights almost certainly attenuated in the aftermath. But if we defy, Theye almost certainly have worse bugs that could then be released in order to "prove" that Theye must be obeyed. It does this without rendering an obviously tyrannical face to the public. Quite the contrary, it paints Themme as wise and concerned parents whose counsel and command must always be obeyed without question, lest disaster follow.

    This is very sick, very evil stuff and we the proletariat are now so far behind that giant 8-ball that I am not sure we can even prevail, were we to arm up and go out to slaughter Themme and all their children with grim determination. I've worked on a weapons project that, were I to divulge its nature would have you all freaked out and calling me a liar to preserve your sanity. I would also end up in a cell in no time, so my lips are sealed - but my point is that I have seen just ONE of what I am sure are probably literally thousands or even tens of thousands of such projects, any or all of which could be turned against us in a heartbeat, after which we would be in very deep kimchee.

    So imagine it - Theye do not paint themselves as tyrants, but as protectors. A "crisis" arises and when we disregard Theire edicts, the threat is made more directly and obviously real. I suspect Theye can ratchet the threat almost without limit in such ways that we THINK that WE are the reason for the trouble because we have been misbehaved children. Beyond a point the critical mass lays down and the war is lost.

    With stakes this high, no evil can be ruled out no matter how unlikely it may seem. Indeed, the more out there is appears, the less wisdom I find in rejecting it out of hand. It is a very fine line we tread between astute precaution and either raving paranoia or imbecilic disregard.

    We are living in what I believe to be the most singularly dangerous time in all human history.

    And so I can only conclude that courage and basic sense is now more important than ever before. We MUST resist the tyrant at ANY cost, come what may because to do less is to guaRONtee Theire victory over what they see as riffraff. The worst that can happen by fighting Themme is that we lose and end up as we would have had we capitulated like the French. Personally, I have no intentions of living on my knees to any man. I suppose it is easy for me, being 62 and having lived "enough". For the young who were raised to weakness, I'm sure what I propose must seem utterly unacceptable and insane. And so where does that leave us? I wish I knew beyong merely "precarious".

    I hope we resist Themme to success and their genocide. It is an ugly thing, but being a slave is uglier. I'd sooner kill their children than allow myself to be manacled and made the Whipmaster's chattel. I will not submit, no matter who or what must be destroyed, including myself.

    Would that we were a better breed, but alas, this is the cloth from which the mean human being has been cut. Sometimes I am not even sure humanity is worthy of salvation. I wish I were more magnanimous, but I am no longer willing to make a stooge of myself for the sake of misplaced generosity toward the undeserving.
    Last edited by osan; 04-26-2020 at 10:42 PM.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    That is a very difficult thing to determine. There are several possibilities. Is Trump in on the conspiracy? I have no idea. Because of the general outward appearances... Demos express hatred of him and all their chicanery in their ostensive attempts at getting rid of him, one feels compelled to believe what they see. Indeed it may be what we think we are witnessing, but I would not rest easy in accepting it as fact without evidence that would leave me with no other rational and honest choices.

    Could this all be theater, Trump being an integral part of it? I believe it could. The more convincing, the greater the prospects for success. Theye are not stupid by any stretch, contrary to what so many seem to believe. Theye have been at work on this for at least 125 years, and I suspect a good deal longer than that. An intergenerational project for the soul of the world is not tossed to chance, especially so far along the path of so great a labor as this. Therefore, no level of deceit would surprise me. But I have no direct evidence that Trump is a mole of sorts, but some of the things he says and does leaves me wondering about his truer nature and goals. He treads a very interesting and fine line between being believable and saying things that disallow me from trusting what is being projected.

    It is certainly possible that he is being advised by those who are Theire agents and is therefore playing into Theire hands... dancing to their tune, as it were. How would we be able to tell the difference? I'm not sure there is a way to do so.

    Look at some of the cabinet choices Trump has made - Bolton is a loser of the first order. Fauci? What WAS he thinking?

    Consider Bush the younger - I am not convinced he was a bad man, but the people with whom he surrounded himself were first-class scum, so no wonder his presidency was cluster-copulation.

    2.2 million... How would Trump even know to spew such an idiotic number, save that one of this trusted advisors whispered it into his ear?

    There has been so much baloney spewed about this bug, it is no wonder the weak-minded typical American dope (not to mention the rest of the world's populations) is freaking out. Back in December I think it was, I was myself speculating that as reported, the virus was strongly suspect as a bio-agent that got away from the communist Chinese. Now however, the characteristics as reported early on appear to have all be outright false or deeply exaggerated.

    Even the so-called "experts" seem to be full of $#@!. We've gone from dire predictions of millions dead to hundreds of thousands, to tens of thousands... so we were off thus far by at least two full orders of magnitude, and more.

    There are many factors that could contribute to this outcome. Which ones are actual factors is anyone's guess. Nobody is to be trusted on this matter, IMO, ESPECIALLY "government" and its "experts". I do not trust CDC to the end of my dick... OK that's miles... my nose, how about that. WHO is a glaringly evil institution who should not be trusted to tell us water is wet.

    And here is the REAL rub, and for me proof of why we the humans of earth must return to anarchistic life and butcher to the man any group getting too big for its breeches: if we comply with the commandments of government, perhaps we get through in one physical piece, our rights almost certainly attenuated in the aftermath. But if we defy, Theye almost certainly have worse bugs that could then be released in order to "prove" that Theye must be obeyed. It does this without rendering an obviously tyrannical face to the public. Quite the contrary, it paints Themme as wise and concerned parents whose counsel and command must always be obeyed without question, lest disaster follow.

    This is very sick, very evil stuff and we the proletariat are now so far behind that giant 8-ball that I am not sure we can even prevail, were we to arm up and go out to slaughter Themme and all their children with grim determination. I've worked on a weapons project that, were I to divulge its nature would have you all freaked out and calling me a liar to preserve your sanity. I would also end up in a cell in no time, so my lips are sealed - but my point is that I have seen just ONE of what I am sure are probably literally thousands or even tens of thousands of such projects, any or all of which could be turned against us in a heartbeat, after which we would be in very deep kimchee.

    So imagine it - Theye do not paint themselves as tyrants, but as protectors. A "crisis" arises and when we disregard Theire edicts, the threat is made more directly and obviously real. I suspect Theye can ratchet the threat almost without limit in such ways that we THINK that WE are the reason for the trouble because we have been misbehaved children. Beyond a point the critical mass lays down and the war is lost.

    With stakes this high, no evil can be ruled out no matter how unlikely it may seem. Indeed, the more out there is appears, the less wisdom I find in rejecting it out of hand. It is a very fine line we tread between astute precaution and either raving paranoia or imbecilic disregard.

    We are living in what I believe to be the most singularly dangerous time in all human history.

    And so I can only conclude that courage and basic sense is now more important than ever before. We MUST resist the tyrant at ANY cost, come what may because to do less is to guaRONtee Theire victory over what they see as riffraff. The worst that can happen by fighting Themme is that we lose and end up as we would have had we capitulated like the French. Personally, I have no intentions of living on my knees to any man. I suppose it is easy for me, being 62 and having lived "enough". For the young who were raised to weakness, I'm sure what I propose must seem utterly unacceptable and insane. And so where does that leave us? I wish I knew beyong merely "precarious".

    I hope we resist Themme to success and their genocide. It is an ugly thing, but being a slave is uglier. I'd sooner kill their children than allow myself to be manacled and made the Whipmaster's chattel. I will not submit, no matter who or what must be destroyed, including myself.

    Would that we were a better breed, but alas, this is the cloth from which the mean human being has been cut. Sometimes I am not even sure humanity is worthy of salvation. I wish I were more magnanimous, but I am no longer willing to make a stooge of myself for the sake of misplaced generosity toward the undeserving.
    Oh, my, what a post. I agree it's the most dangerous point in (recorded) human history.

    Did I ever share with you the post I saved from an old conversion about 9/11 and evil?



    ETA the mentioned post:

    I'm quoting from a thread on 9/11, and this was made by someone else:

    I can tell you from personal experience that this is a big
    stumblingblock with many people. That is, this discussion of "evil".

    There are those who don't believe "evil" exists-----that all things are
    'relative'-----what may 'be' evil to one person is not so to another----
    and that both 'views' are valid. I believe this to be absolute rubbish,
    representing a lazy and cowardly thought process. Nevertheless...

    There are some who believe evil exists, but who are realistic enough to
    know that they have been relatively 'sheltered' from 'it', never really
    experiencing 'it' in any substantial way. They may even consider
    themselves 'blessed' in this regard.

    Then there are those who believe evil exists and that they in fact have
    experienced it directly, either being a victim of 'it', or maybe just
    'witnessing' it first hand. However, what the majority of these people
    experience is just 'petty' evil------petty animosities---
    petty jealousies-----violence with petty motivations. Even some really
    horrible acts are the resutls of 'petty evil'.

    But there is another kind of evil which only a minority of people are
    familiar with. It is something so dark, so alien to their own nature and
    to what they had thought could even exist, that with their first
    encounter of 'It', they are astonished--------'it can not be so, this
    can not possibly be'. And they are 'diminished' by the encounter. There
    is a loss of 'innocence' so profound that it seems almost irrepairable.
    And this is a problem, for, in order to defeat this evil you must be
    able to recognize it, to recognize it you must be able to
    understand(know) it, and to know it a part of you must die. To hope and
    to pray for the destruction of this evil is all fine and well. But so
    long as no 'divine' intervention comes, the price of confronting 'It'
    will be paid with blood----yours----or 'Its'. It will never be placated.
    It can not be appeased. And these are the 'Powers' who rule this day.
    Last edited by susano; 04-27-2020 at 01:21 AM.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

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  20. #17
    It’s unfortunate that in this circumstance that the constitution & the BOR are so easily cast aside for the sake of our “safety & security”... it may already be too late. They clearly are better armed & organized. Just how many of the cops & armed forces are likely to step up to their oath to uphold said constitution & bill of rights?

    See you in camp.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

  21. #18
    When this virus affects those that operate our food chain then you'll see SHTF.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    When this virus affects those that operate our food chain then you'll see SHTF.
    There is no virus. See my thread in the COVID-19 section. This is the most evil and ingenious psyop and coup ever pulled.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    When this virus affects those that operate our food chain then you'll see SHTF.
    When Food chain become a problem they might turn agaisnt the media and well you know the rest.

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I love how people are somehow able to continue pretending that Trump is anti-state.
    I don't love how you can't see the forest for the trees. We are WAY beyond the subject of Trump now. The "lockdown" is a coup and they intend to kill us. Adjust your thought patterns accordingly.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I love how people are somehow able to continue pretending that Trump is anti-state.

    I've never heard a single person say this.

    I have, however, heard many state that he is far better than Hillary. That is yet to be proven.

    The mistake people make is to believe that Trump is in fact proven, having been fooled by the improvements he's made. Like him or not, he is due credit for having made significant corrections to our circumstances. Significant, but not sufficient; they are still better than what Clinton would have done, so if he bought us time, we should be glad of it.

    I don't know whether he is in on this latest play to bring the remains of American freedom to ruin. To say he is, without convincing evidence is invalid and unjust to the man, no matter how much you may hate him. This razor's edge he appears to be dancing on is endlessly aggravating. I wish he'd commit himself to something, such as apprehending, rendering, trying, and executing several thousand felons like Clinton, Obama, etc. and acquit himself well to the point he could be justifiably trusted as not being one of Themme... That, or that he IS. Then we would know what to do, and by "we" I mean the average American corrupt, who wants everything handed to him on a platter, including his freedoms and the restrictions he wishes placed on those with whom he disagrees. I already know what needs doing, as do many others... but we're not enough, IMO, to get the job done.

    Things are looking grim, but I maintain that people have a way of surprising you when things go seriously awry... At least they have in the past. This is a brave new order and so far as I can see, nearly anything is possible.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    It’s unfortunate that in this circumstance that the constitution & the BOR are so easily cast aside for the sake of our “safety & security”... it may already be too late. They clearly are better armed & organized. Just how many of the cops & armed forces are likely to step up to their oath to uphold said constitution & bill of rights?
    Is this not the precise thing of which we were warned by the likes of Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, and Henry? A republic, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT... those trading freedom for safety and security, deserve neither.

    We cannot say we didn't know, that we were not given augury. Our distant forebears were $#@!S. The blood of our fellows was not dried on the grounds on which it was shed as the new Themme were already up to nothing good with the whiskey tax. The people should have slaughtered them, their wives, and their innocent children in retribution for their bad behavior, as should the lot of them done when George Washington (may he rot in hell) sent troops into what was to become known as the Whiskey Rebellion.

    We should have slaughtered the entire SCOTUS bench in 1803, including their families, when they usurped power in Marbury.

    Had we done so with dispatch, non-equivocation, and an utter dearth of even the least shred of mercy, America may have evolved into a free land instead of the tyranny we so thoroughly enjoy today.

    There are those who will say that my way is "barbaric" and not in keeping with freedom; that it is hypocritical to demand freedom and justice but deny it to those in "government". To that I respond with "BULL$#@!!". It is the ONLY valid way because men gifted with the privilege of power invariably devolve into tyranny on one form and degree or another. There ARE no good kings and lords; there are only lesser tyrants.

    The proper response to tyranny is the outright killing of everything and everyone attached to it. It is the one form of genocide that is 100% morally just and that includes holding the risk of one's children being slaughtered like piglets over the heads of those who would assume the mantle of the public trust. It is the hazard of one's genetic line being extinguished from the earth that best bonds the individual administrator of Law to propriety in his duties. No such individual should ever be eligible for office, appointment, or hire lest they be married and have children so that the blood of spouse and issue alike will be held in escrow for good behavior and faithful service. And all unamended violations should be met with filial slaughter. It is a ghastly prospect, and yet if it is not held as the sword of Damocles above the heads of those in positions that carry certain functional prerogatives, tyranny will seep into people's lives no matter what. Trying to keep it out any other way is futile and I submit that even with such threats and hazards present, you will still find the occasional example of a fool so far gone from goodness and sanity that they will nonetheless try their hands against the liberties of their fellows.

    It must be seen that terror must be the foundation of all political life; fear not just for one's own risks, but that which they bring upon the heads of those whom they presumably love. Single unattached individuals should be categorically prohibited from political positions of any sort. Furthermore, the rights of the individual must enjoy guaranty such that they stand centrally within the circle of their valid praxeological prerogatives to escort into death ANYONE who so much as threatens to violate their sovereignty without just cause.

    Bring this reality to Themme and you would see a VERY different and improved reality.

    See you in camp.
    I wish I could validly accuse you of being a snarky little boothole, but alas...
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  27. #24
    ^^^^^^Another 4-star Osan post! ^^^^^^^



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Where in the country are you?

    I read at the Democratic Underground nearly every day (yuck) and what you described is exactly the kind of $#@! said on the board in every thread. I swear, it's like reading a Stasi forum. I mean, in case anyone thought things said about Democrats were too broad brush or harsh, uh, no. They are scary stupid and have an intense hatred for any kind of talk about rights and freedom - unless it's trans rights or some stupid like that, of course.
    Border of W. PA - E. Ohio.

    Well, I have the same experience when talking to "republicans", so, it is the majority of brainwashed people.
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  30. #26
    Freedom is not popular.

    Nothing new about any of this in mankind's history, and we all know it.

    What is lacking today is the will of a committed minority to seize freedom and wrest it away from the controller's grasp, if only for a little while.

    Patriot's Day recently passed, marking the opening battles of Lexington and Concord, where, on 19 April 1775, citizen militias opened fire on the forces of the most powerful military force on the face of the earth, and started a war of secession that was justified by opposition to tyrannies not one tenth of what we suffer under now.

    They did this while at the same time suffering from a smallpox epidemic that killed roughly one in three of those who caught it.

    Pray for men made of sterner stuff.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Oh, my, what a post. I agree it's the most dangerous point in (recorded) human history.

    Did I ever share with you the post I saved from an old conversion about 9/11 and evil?



    ETA the mentioned post:

    I'm quoting from a thread on 9/11, and this was made by someone else:

    I can tell you from personal experience that this is a big
    stumblingblock with many people. That is, this discussion of "evil".

    There are those who don't believe "evil" exists-----that all things are
    'relative'-----what may 'be' evil to one person is not so to another----
    and that both 'views' are valid. I believe this to be absolute rubbish,
    representing a lazy and cowardly thought process. Nevertheless...

    There are some who believe evil exists, but who are realistic enough to
    know that they have been relatively 'sheltered' from 'it', never really
    experiencing 'it' in any substantial way. They may even consider
    themselves 'blessed' in this regard.

    Then there are those who believe evil exists and that they in fact have
    experienced it directly, either being a victim of 'it', or maybe just
    'witnessing' it first hand. However, what the majority of these people
    experience is just 'petty' evil------petty animosities---
    petty jealousies-----violence with petty motivations. Even some really
    horrible acts are the resutls of 'petty evil'.

    But there is another kind of evil which only a minority of people are
    familiar with. It is something so dark, so alien to their own nature and
    to what they had thought could even exist, that with their first
    encounter of 'It', they are astonished--------'it can not be so, this
    can not possibly be'. And they are 'diminished' by the encounter. There
    is a loss of 'innocence' so profound that it seems almost irrepairable.
    And this is a problem, for, in order to defeat this evil you must be
    able to recognize it, to recognize it you must be able to
    understand(know) it, and to know it a part of you must die. To hope and
    to pray for the destruction of this evil is all fine and well. But so
    long as no 'divine' intervention comes, the price of confronting 'It'
    will be paid with blood----yours----or 'Its'. It will never be placated.
    It can not be appeased. And these are the 'Powers' who rule this day.
    Yeah, whoever wrote that was on the money.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by osan
    And to be honest, I have to question Trump, appointing Fauci in the first place. My understanding is that Fauci wants to fellate Hillary in the worst way and absolutely hates and despises Trump. Given this, what brand of stupid possessed Trump to appoint Fauci to his current position?
    It's even worse than that. Dr. Birx husband, Recce, is a long-time Clinton advance man, who worked for many years for Bill and Hillary, going to pick up their "speaking fees" (bribes) ahead of appearances. In mobster terms, he was their "bag man".

    I really can't imagine how any one at this point can still think that Trump is anything but a puppet.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    When this virus affects those that operate our food chain then you'll see SHTF.
    $#@! will also hit the fan if everybody's credit cards stop working and nobody has access to their money.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 04-27-2020 at 12:07 PM.
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    Calvin Coolidge

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Border of W. PA - E. Ohio.

    Well, I have the same experience when talking to "republicans", so, it is the majority of brainwashed people.
    I don't think you get what I meant. The seething hatred is a thing to behold. Anyone who would dare set foot on a beach or a park or enter a grocery store without a mask is "a murderer", "should be charged with terrorism", "should get twenty years in prison" and "$#@! their rights", etc, etc. I'm just pointing out the thinking of the minions. I know there are sheeple of all stripes and parties and no parties but that is a special kind of Bolshevik mindset over there and many of them work for the party. I never look at the Free Republic, which I would consider a "Republican" forum but I'll bet you'd hard pressed to find that mindset over there. Same with all of the protests against the "lockdown". Those people would likely be the "republicans" to which you refer.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

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