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    They saw it coming: Inside the Trump administration’s failures on coronavirus



    By Eric Lipton, David E. Sanger, Maggie Haberman, Michael D. Shear, Mark Mazzetti and Julian E. Barnes
    The New York Times |
    Apr 11, 2020 | 4:05 PM
    | WASHINGTON


    “Any way you cut it, this is going to be bad,” a senior medical adviser at the Department of Veterans Affairs, Dr. Carter Mecher, wrote on the night of Jan. 28, in an email to a group of public health experts scattered around the government and universities. “The projected size of the outbreak already seems hard to believe.”

    A week after the first coronavirus case had been identified in the United States, and six long weeks before President Donald Trump finally took aggressive action to confront the danger the nation was facing — a pandemic that is now forecast to take tens of thousands of American lives — Mecher was urging the upper ranks of the nation’s public health bureaucracy to wake up and prepare for the possibility of far more drastic action.

    “You guys made fun of me screaming to close the schools,” he wrote to the group, which called itself “Red Dawn,” an inside joke based on the 1984 movie about a band of Americans trying to save the country after a foreign invasion. “Now I’m screaming, close the colleges and universities.”

    His was hardly a lone voice. Throughout January, as Trump repeatedly played down the seriousness of the virus and focused on other issues, an array of figures inside his government — from top White House advisers to experts deep in the Cabinet departments and intelligence agencies — identified the threat, sounded alarms and made clear the need for aggressive action.

    The president, though, was slow to absorb the scale of the risk and to act accordingly, focusing instead on controlling the message, protecting gains in the economy and batting away warnings from senior officials.

    Even after Trump took his first concrete action at the end of January — limiting travel from China — public health often had to compete with economic and political considerations in internal debates, slowing the path toward belated decisions to seek more money from Congress, obtain necessary supplies, address shortfalls in testing and ultimately move to keep much of the nation at home.

    Unfolding as it did in the wake of his impeachment by the House and in the midst of his Senate trial, Trump’s response was colored by his suspicion of and disdain for what he viewed as the “Deep State” — the very people in his government whose expertise and long experience might have guided him more quickly toward steps that would slow the virus, and likely save lives.

    Decision-making was also complicated by a long-running dispute inside the administration over how to deal with China. The virus at first took a back seat to a desire not to upset Beijing during trade talks, but later the impulse to score points against Beijing left the world’s two leading powers further divided as they confronted one of the first truly global threats of the 21st century.

    The shortcomings of Trump’s performance have played out with remarkable transparency as part of his daily effort to dominate television screens and the national conversation.


    But dozens of interviews with current and former officials and a review of emails and other records revealed many previously unreported details and a fuller picture of the roots and extent of his halting response as the deadly virus spread:

    The National Security Council office responsible for tracking pandemics received intelligence reports in early January predicting the spread of the virus to the United States, and within weeks was raising options like keeping Americans home from work and shutting down cities the size of Chicago. Trump would avoid such steps until March.

    — Despite Trump’s denial weeks later, he was told at the time about a Jan. 29 memo produced by his trade adviser, Peter Navarro, that outlined out in striking detail the potential risks of a coronavirus pandemic: as many as half a million deaths and trillions of dollars in economic losses.

    — The health and human services secretary, Alex Azar, directly warned Trump of the possibility of a pandemic during a call on Jan. 30, the second warning he delivered to the president about the virus in two weeks. The president, who was on Air Force One while traveling for appearances in the Midwest, responded that Azar was being alarmist.

    — Azar publicly announced in February that the government was establishing a “surveillance” system in five American cities to measure the spread of the virus and enable experts to project the next hot spots. It was delayed for weeks. The slow start of that plan, on top of the well-documented failures to develop the nation’s testing capacity, left administration officials with almost no insight into how rapidly the virus was spreading. “We were flying the plane with no instruments,” one official said.

    — By the third week in February, the administration’s top public health experts concluded they should recommend to Trump a new approach that would include warning the American people of the risks and urging steps like social distancing and staying home from work. But the White House focused instead on messaging and crucial additional weeks went by before their views were reluctantly accepted by the president — time when the virus spread largely unimpeded.

    When Trump finally agreed in mid-March to recommend social distancing across the country, effectively bringing much of the economy to a halt, he seemed shellshocked and deflated to some of his closest associates. One described him as “subdued” and “baffled” by how the crisis had played out. An economy that he had wagered his reelection on was suddenly in shambles.


    He only regained his swagger, the associate said, from conducting his daily White House briefings, at which he often seeks to rewrite the history of the past several months. He declared at one point that he “felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic,” and insisted at another that he had to be a “cheerleader for the country,” as if that explained why he failed to prepare the public for what was coming.

    Trump’s allies and some administration officials say the criticism has been unfair. The Chinese government misled other governments, they say. And they insist that the president was either not getting proper information, or the people around him weren’t conveying the urgency of the threat. In some cases, they argue, the specific officials he was hearing from had been discredited in his eyes, but once the right information got to him through other channels, he made the right calls.


    Peter Navarro, President Donald Trump's trade advisor, during a coronavirus briefing at the White House on April 2, 2020. (Doug Mills/The New York Times)

    “While the media and Democrats refused to seriously acknowledge this virus in January and February, President Trump took bold action to protect Americans and unleash the full power of the federal government to curb the spread of the virus, expand testing capacities and expedite vaccine development even when we had no true idea the level of transmission or asymptomatic spread,” said Judd Deere, a White House spokesman.

    ....
    President Donald Trump holds a picture of the novel coronavirus with Health and Human Service Secretary Alex Azar, left, in Atlanta at CDC headquarters on March 6, 2020.(Jim Watson/AFP via Getty Images)


    The meeting that evening with Trump to advocate social distancing was canceled, replaced by a news conference in which the president announced that the White House response would be put under the command of Vice President Mike Pence.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coron...es4-story.html



    It's MSM report, so exercise caution.







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    Navarro publicly said Americans had 'nothing to worry about' while privately warning coronavirus could cost lives and dollars
    CNN
    Fri April 10, 2020
    But in the memo, Navarro had privately urged the White House to impose a travel ban on China. The White House imposed restrictions on -- but did not ban -- travel from mainland China onJanuary 31, two days after the memo circulated.
    In a statement to CNN regarding his CNBC appearance, Navarro said, "A question about agricultural purchase commitments is clearly not my lane."
    At the White House coronavirus briefing Tuesday, Trump said he didn't know about Navarro's memos until a few days ago and still hadn't read it.
    "He wrote a memo and he was right and I haven't seen the memo," the President said. "I will see it later on, after this. But it didn't matter whether I saw or not, because I acted on my own. I guess I had the same instincts as Peter."
    In Navarro's second memo, dated February 23, he urged for immediate funding to "minimize economic and social disruption."
    "Any member of the Task Force who wants to be cautious about appropriating funds for a crisis that could inflict trillions of dollars in economic damage and take millions of lives has come to the wrong administration," Navarro wrote.
    But at a press gaggle on February 24, Navarro assured that coronavirus was "nothing to worry about for the American people" under Trump's leadership.


    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/polit...rus/index.html

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    Trump heads to India for a giant rally



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    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The meme might be on to something.

    If POTUS had seen it coming, why would he have planned a '5 hugs a day' political rally in a country bordering China in late Feb.
    Two and two don't add up.

    They saw it coming: Inside the Trump administration’s failures on coronavirus
    The New York Times
    February 23, 2020
    Trump heads to India for a giant rally

    Media narrative is off again, he did not see it coming in late Feb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    The meme might be on to something.

    If POTUS had seen it coming, why would he have planned a '5 hugs a day' political rally in a country bordering China in late Feb.
    Two and two don't add up.






    Media narrative is off again, he did not see it coming in late Feb.
    Uh, no, he shut down flights from China in late January.

    Nancy Pelosi is the one who told everybody to go to China town parades in late February.

    Wtf are you talking about hug rallies??
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Uh, no, he shut down flights from China in late January.

    Nancy Pelosi is the one who told everybody to go to China town parades in late February.

    Wtf are you talking about hug rallies??
    That's a valid point, he did act in Jan.

    This was in late Feb, from other discussion:


    Modi- Trump Bonhomie | 5 Hugs in One Day
    Feb 24, 2020

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbCS0yVs3vE

    Coronavirus Update, Map as Death Toll Hits 3,300, India Sees Spike in Cases Amid Outbreak Fears
    3/5/20
    COVID-19 virus cases continue to climb, with the U.S. reporting its first death in California, while Washington state reported its tenth death on Wednesday. Cases continue to soar in Italy, which ordered the closure of all schools, while India has seen a surge in cases. Hong Kong reported what is believed to be the first human-to-animal transmission of the virus after a dog tested positive.
    The virus, which was first detected in China's Wuhan city in the Hubei province, has infected at least 95,748 people and claimed the lives of 3,286 globally, according to the latest figures from Johns Hopkins University.
    March 4, 2020
    Avoiding hugs, OPEC officials greet with their feet amid virus outbreak

    VIENNA (Reuters) - When OPEC ministers descend on Vienna to decide oil production policy, their meetings are usually accompanied by displays of brotherhood between the men in charge of a third of global crude supplies.
    reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-opec-meeting/avoiding-hugs-opec-officials-greet-with-their-feet-amid-virus-outbreak-idUSKBN20R1VL

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    That's a valid point, he did act in Jan.

    This was in late Feb, from other discussion:


    Modi- Trump Bonhomie | 5 Hugs in One Day
    Feb 24, 2020

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbCS0yVs3vE

    Coronavirus Update, Map as Death Toll Hits 3,300, India Sees Spike in Cases Amid Outbreak Fears


    March 4, 2020
    Avoiding hugs, OPEC officials greet with their feet amid virus outbreak

    VIENNA (Reuters) - When OPEC ministers descend on Vienna to decide oil production policy, their meetings are usually accompanied by displays of brotherhood between the men in charge of a third of global crude supplies.
    reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-opec-meeting/avoiding-hugs-opec-officials-greet-with-their-feet-amid-virus-outbreak-idUSKBN20R1VL
    COVID-19 doesn't infect Trump, Trump infects COVID-19.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    I knew it would be the propagandists at the NYT's before I even clicked on the forum page.



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