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    Kushner’s team seeks national coronavirus surveillance system

    Kushner’s team seeks national coronavirus surveillance system

    White House senior adviser Jared Kushner’s task force has reached out to a range of health technology companies about creating a national coronavirus surveillance system to give the government a near real-time view of where patients are seeking treatment and for what, and whether hospitals can accommodate them, according to four people with knowledge of the discussions.

    The proposed national network could help determine which areas of the country can safely relax social-distancing rules and which should remain vigilant. But it would also represent a significant expansion of government use of individual patient data, forcing a new reckoning over privacy limits amid a national crisis.

    Health privacy laws already grant broad exceptions for national security purposes. But the prospect of compiling a national database of potentially sensitive health information has prompted concerns about its impact on civil liberties well after the coronavirus threat recedes, with some critics comparing it to the Patriot Act enacted after the 9/11 attacks.

    Already, the Trump administration has sought to ease data-sharing rules and assure health data companies they won’t be penalized for sharing information with state and federal – a move driven in part by Kushner’s push to assemble the national network, according to an individual with knowledge of the decision.
    Once assembled, it'll never be disassembled
    There exists in the world, a desperate need for conspiracies … otherwise, what are the libertarians going to have to talk about



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    This could be potentially a game changer but let's wait till all the facts come out.

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    “Morning Joe” co-hosts claim that the White House (Kushner) attempted to blackmail the morning show
    “Kushner told Scarborough that he would need to personally apologize to Trump in exchange for getting Enquirerowner David Pecker to stop the story,” Sherman wrote. “Scarborough says he refused, and the Enquirer published the story in print on June 5, headlined ‘Morning Joe Sleazy Cheating Scandal!'”
    thewrap.com/jared-kushne...-trump-report/


    Israeli Spyware Firm Wants to Track Data to Stop Coronavirus Spreading

    March 17, 2020
    (Bloomberg) -- An Israeli technology company, which has gained notoriety for the spyware it sells, has developed a new product it says has the ability to track the spread of the coronavirus.

    NSO Group Ltd.’s product analyzes huge volumes of data to map people’s movements to identify who they’ve come in contact with, which can then be used to stop the spread of infection, according to a person familiar with the matter.

    Global Curbs Tighten; Mnuchin Seeks $850 Billion: Virus Update
    About a dozen countries are testing the NSO technology, the person familiar said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a private matter. The software takes two weeks of mobile-phone tracking information from the infected person -- the incubation time of the virus -- then matches with location data collected by national mobile phone companies that pinpoints citizens who were in the patient’s vicinity for more than 15 minutes and are vulnerable to contagion, the person said.

    NSO’s new product is being tested just as Israel approves the use of a tracking technology developed to combat terrorism to retrace the movements of coronavirus patients and people they’ve encountered. The step has proved controversial, with critics saying it constitutes an invasion of Israeli citizens’ privacy.
    NSO itself has a history fraught with privacy and human rights controversy. Its spyware has been suspected of helping Saudi Arabia spy on murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi, an accusation the company has denied. Speculation its software may have been used to hack the phone of Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos was also denied by the company. WhatsApp has filed a lawsuit against NSO, alleging that it violated the messaging platform’s terms of service by using it as a delivery mechanism for its spyware.

    Civilian Product
    The data analysis tool is the company’s first civilian product.Unlike NSO’s better-known Pegasus spyware, the big-data software doesn’t track mobile phones or conduct surveillance, the person said. It’s a civilian product sold to national health ministries and doesn’t need special export permission from Israel’s Ministry of Defense, the person said.

    ‘Surveillance Democracy?’
    On Monday, the Israeli government authorized the country’s Shin Bet internal security agency to deploy a similar technology to track the virus among its citizens, which was originally developed to monitor the movement of militants.
    Critics raised concerns about putting such technology in governments’ hands.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh04uu1EkIU

    Secretive Israeli Company Uses WhatsApp Voice Calls To Install Spyware On Phones
    Two private intelligence companies hack political enemies in Africa, Europe, the Mideast, and the United States, for a price.
    By Richard Silverstein
    July 27, 2018
    Two Israeli companies are at the forefront of this commercialization of dirty ops: NSO Group and Black Cube. Those following the Harvey Weinstein scandal will remember that Black Cube was the cyber-surveillance firm that Weinstein’s lawyer, David Boies, hired after former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak introduced Weinstein to the company. Black Cube employed covert schemes to trick Weinstein’s accusers into exposing themselves so that his legal defense might have more ammunition to discredit them in court and in the public realm.


    Anthony Bourdain‏ Verified account @Bourdain
    There’s a nauseating symmetry: both Trump and Weinstein used AMI(Enquirer) and Black Cube (Israeli private Intel) to do their dirty work
    4:38 PM - 6 May 2018
    https://twitter.com/bourdain/status/...099520?lang=en

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    USA TODAY Published June 22, 2018

    March 17, 2020
    Jared Kushner Once Controlled a Firm Now Running a Coronavirus Testing Website
    Trump’s son-in-law had a deeper role in this health tech company than previously reported.

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    Kushner’s team seeks national coronavirus surveillance system

    White House senior adviser Jared Kushner’s task force has reached out to a range of health technology companies about creating a national coronavirus surveillance system to give the government a near real-time view of where patients are seeking treatment and for what, and whether hospitals can accommodate them, according to four people with knowledge of the discussions.

    The proposed national network could help determine which areas of the country can safely relax social-distancing rules and which should remain vigilant. But it would also represent a significant expansion of government use of individual patient data, forcing a new reckoning over privacy limits amid a national crisis.

    Health privacy laws already grant broad exceptions for national security purposes. But the prospect of compiling a national database of potentially sensitive health information has prompted concerns about its impact on civil liberties well after the coronavirus threat recedes, with some critics comparing it to the Patriot Act enacted after the 9/11 attacks.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...illance-174165

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    And, on a relate note:

    Tested positive for coronavirus? Health workers may share your address with police
    In a growing number of cities and states, local governments are collecting the addresses of people who test positive for the coronavirus and sharing the lists with police and first responders.

    Law enforcement officials say this information sharing — which is underway in Massachusetts, Alabama and Florida, and in select areas of North Carolina — will help keep officers and EMTs safe as they respond to calls at the homes of people who have been infected. The first responders can take additional precautions in those cases to avoid being exposed to the virus, state health departments and local police officials say.

    But some public health experts and privacy advocates have raised concerns about police departments maintaining a list of addresses of confirmed coronavirus cases. They say that it could make people reluctant to seek medical care or get tested for COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, because of a fear of profiling by law enforcement.
    Since TheTexan is Temp-Banned, let me just say it for him: "Thank God, someone is looking out for our boys in blue"
    There exists in the world, a desperate need for conspiracies … otherwise, what are the libertarians going to have to talk about

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    Trump addressed it in the press conference just now..

    Said something along the lines of..

    "I have never heard it about.. I don't know if I would be ok with it.. It could be good as far as tracking, but it also have to do with rights and lots of Constitutional questions."
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    And, on a relate note:

    Tested positive for coronavirus? Health workers may share your address with police


    Since TheTexan is Temp-Banned, let me just say it for him: "Thank God, someone is looking out for our boys in blue"
    LOL
    When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? - Miguel de Cervantes, (Don Quixote)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the Federal Reserve Notes of patriotic central banks

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    [sic]

    The sharing of addresses of people who have tested positive for COVID-19 isn't a violation of medical privacy laws, according to guidance issued by the Civil Rights Office of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

    Still, just because a practice isn't illegal doesn't mean it's accepted as sound public health policy. Public health experts have questioned the value of the address lists, since infected people may be asymptomatic or not realize that they've been exposed.



    of course, if this information was hacked how might people react to those on this list? We already have programs to report people for violating stay at home. Once this list is hacked then folks peep out of their curtains and report their neighbors? Imagine if there was a reward for doing so? Call it public safety credit in your favor? Your social reputation score would jump! and thus loans become cheaper with a good social credit rating and you can afford that new car! Crikey,...if I can think this up without a second thought imagine what they deep state cray computer AI systems are doing.
    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 04-08-2020 at 06:48 PM.
    When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? - Miguel de Cervantes, (Don Quixote)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the Federal Reserve Notes of patriotic central banks

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    they could give a hoot if a measure such as this contributes to the "fight against the pandemic," the value is in setting precedent. Also, gives a framework that will be expanded into a registry of vaccination status etc.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Trump addressed it in the press conference just now..

    Said something along the lines of..

    "I have never heard it about.. I don't know if I would be ok with it.. It could be good as far as tracking, but it also have to do with rights and lots of Constitutional questions."

    ^this.


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    that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Kushner’s team seeks national coronavirus surveillance system



    Once assembled, it'll never be disassembled
    Tyranny only moves in one direction - more tyranny. The only way this stops is with a war.
    You've got Sharia patrols in the USA..?

    No, not in America, only in the big cities. there are no americans there, only democrats.

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    You've got Sharia patrols in the USA..?

    No, not in America, only in the big cities. there are no americans there, only democrats.

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    April 10, 2020
    Lawmakers Worry Jared Kushner Is Working on a Privacy Destroying “Surveillance System”


    As Jared Kushner has set himself a prominent role in the administration’s coronavirus response, there’s been a growing chorus of questions about what, exactly, he’s up to and how much the public will ever find out about it. Today, a trio of lawmakers are demanding answers from Jared Kushner about work his public-private taskforce has reportedly been doing with a “range of technology firms” to “establish a far-reaching public health surveillance system” in response to the pandemic.
    Democratic senators Mark Warner of Virginia and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, along with Rep. Anna Eshoo of California, wrote a letter to Kushner on Friday asking about the issue three days after Politico reported that Kushner’s shadow task force had “reached out to a range of health technology companies about creating a national coronavirus surveillance system” that would give government “a near real-time view” of patients seeking treatment. Even though Politico cited interviews with “seven tech executives, government officials and other people familiar with its contours,” a White House spokesperson denied to the news outlet that Kushner had any knowledge of such plans.
    “Your office’s denial of the existence of this effort, despite ample corroborating reporting, only compounds concerns we have with lack of transparency,” the lawmakers wrote in the April 10 letter, which expressed fears that such a system “could undermine the confidentiality and security of our health information and become the new status quo.”

    https://www.motherjones.com/coronavi...-surveillance/

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    Yes!!! More 3-D Chess from the Trump Admin. I get it now, he’s going to give us all of our rights back under the guise of taking them away so to fool the swamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEF View Post
    Yes!!! More 3-D Chess from the Trump Admin. I get it now, he’s going to give us all of our rights back under the guise of taking them away so to fool the swamp.

    Brilliant!
    Chris

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    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEF View Post
    Yes!!! More 3-D Chess from the Trump Admin. I get it now, he’s going to give us all of our rights back under the guise of taking them away so to fool the swamp.
    To give credit where due, he spoke very strongly about 2nd amendment rights yesterday during the daily coronawirus briefing to press. He could be finally coming around.

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    NBC is not owned by Deep Ziocons but their latest report about Israeli espionage firm NSO with close ties to Deep Zionism (extremist wing) completely forgot to mention same firm's alleged espionage attacks in the US.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rj2QxXtj_c


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    Facebook Alleges Israeli Spyware Firm NSO Ran Attack Servers on U.S. Soil

    In a clash of espionage giants, NSO argues California court has no jurisdiction to handle Facebook's suit against it

    Apr 26, 2020

    The logo of the Israeli NSO Group company on a building where they had offices in Herzliya, Israel, August 25, 2016.Daniella Cheslow/AP Can Facebook sue the NSO Group and its sister Company Q Cyber in a California court? That is one of the critical questions in a clash of espionage giants in connection with Pegasus software, which exploited a WhatsApp breach to take control of smartphones. In responding to NSO Group’s request to reject the lawsuit out of hand, Facebook attempted on Friday to undermine the Israeli companies' position with evidence gathered during the investigation.
    haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-facebook-alleges-israeli-spyware-firm-nso-ran-attack-servers-on-u-s-soil-1.8800061



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh04uu1EkIU


    Be interesting to see how well funded GOPA wing responds to latest reports.
    On an un-related note, in the past NBC had hosted reality TV show Celebrity Apprentice featuring current GOPA leader and another talented senior WH advisor.



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