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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    The vast majority are being Kept alive already,,and the Cold just finishes them off,,
    Much of it is Medical Malpractice..Wrong Drugs.. and cross contamination..

    and Still far less than flu kills every year. They need to inflate the numbers to keep the panic going.
    Believe what you will. Come to New York and ask someone if this is over exaggerated. Everyone I know knows people (friends, family members) who have been hospitalized or died. This isn’t the flu, this is a bioengineered virus which for some still unclear reasons, some people get extremely sick. Young included. Many 30-50 yo intubated at my hospital. Many with no former medical problems. To say this is like the flu is inaccurate. If they didn’t do these mitigation procedures, many many more people would have died than any flu season you have ever lived through. Maybe I wouldn’t believe it if I wasn’t living in the thick of it. But I know what I know and I see what I see. If someone doesn’t want to believe me, that’s fine. God is my witness.
    Last edited by TER; 04-07-2020 at 04:45 PM.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Believe what you will.
    I saw two Hospitals First hand.. on the 17th...

    There were 1000 cases and 52 Dead (all centered around Elder care facilities).

    The hospitals were factually NOT Busy,,despite media claims,,, (I was concerned driving her there)

    Now it has gone from here ,, to there,, and everywhere else..

    Italy did EVERYTHING WRONG,, but everyone still wants to copy that model..

    And Yes TER, some people really do want all those old people to just die.

    as a side,,Carol is well,,doing more than she is supposed to,, and I have not switched on her Oxygen Machine in weeks.

    Fear has no place here.
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  5. #33
    I am happy to hear Carol is doing well. I hope she continues to improve.

    I’ve posted enough about this. I guess we all have to see things through whatever prism we are in. Going to sign off for a while. I wish everyone the best.
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  6. #34
    Proverbs 29:18
    "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

    Hosea 4:6
    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Believe what you will. Come to New York and ask someone if this is over exaggerated. Everyone I know knows people (friends, family members) who have been hospitalized or died. This isn’t the flu, this is a bioengineered virus which for some still unclear reasons, some people get extremely sick. Young included. Many 30-50 yo intubated at my hospital. Many with no former medical problems. To say this is like the flu is inaccurate. If they didn’t do these mitigation procedures, many many more people would have died than any flu season you have ever lived through. Maybe I wouldn’t believe it if I wasn’t living in the thick of it. But I know what I know and I see what I see. If someone doesn’t want to believe me, that’s fine. God is my witness.
    Then why is it that loads of people are visiting NY hospitals (among other places), videoing the locations and they're all practically empty? Even the ones claimed to be the epicenters of the outbreaks? Which hospital is "your hospital"? No offense but no, I don't believe you. The documented evidence at the claimed epicenters doesn't match up at all with the media's claims.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Then why is it that loads of people are visiting NY hospitals (among other places), videoing the locations and they're all practically empty? Even the ones claimed to be the epicenters of the outbreaks? Which hospital is "your hospital"? No offense but no, I don't believe you. The documented evidence at the claimed epicenters doesn't match up at all with the media's claims.
    Would you go to the hospital if you weren't dying?? All non essential medicine and surgeries are suspended. They have skeleton crews because they don't want to get the healthcare workers sick.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I saw two Hospitals First hand.. on the 17th...

    There were 1000 cases and 52 Dead (all centered around Elder care facilities).

    The hospitals were factually NOT Busy,,despite media claims,,, (I was concerned driving her there)

    Now it has gone from here ,, to there,, and everywhere else..

    Italy did EVERYTHING WRONG,, but everyone still wants to copy that model..

    And Yes TER, some people really do want all those old people to just die.

    as a side,,Carol is well,,doing more than she is supposed to,, and I have not switched on her Oxygen Machine in weeks.

    Fear has no place here.
    Old people though are very important and are good teachers. This ridicules what happened in Europe and if anyone should be blamed for the wide spread of the thing in Italy its the leftist socialist gov which was afraid of banning travelers from Wuhan and China while knowing this was already spreading. And was afraid of being called racist.

    Either way i do hope this thing really goes away on its own and never returns nor acts like the flu.
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 04-08-2020 at 11:36 AM.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Would you go to the hospital if you weren't dying?? All non essential medicine and surgeries are suspended. They have skeleton crews because they don't want to get the healthcare workers sick.
    So, in other words, trust the media. Hospitals are essentially shut down except for the hundreds of covid patients inside that only the media knows about. Got it.

    I particularly liked the media's video of the "covid unit" in a overrun NYC hospital where the blurred out patients were laying on hospital beds wearing street shoes.
    Last edited by devil21; 04-08-2020 at 12:01 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    So, in other words, trust the media. Hospitals are essentially shut down except for the hundreds of covid patients inside that only the media knows about. Got it.

    I particularly liked the media's video of the "covid unit" in a overrun NYC hospital where the blurred out patients were laying on hospital beds wearing street shoes.
    So in other words trust China. it's not trAnsmissable.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    That's what I've been reading. The improper use of the ventilators is causing lung damage.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    So in other words trust China. it's not trAnsmissable.
    I don't see much difference between our media and theirs these days.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I don't see much difference between our media and theirs these days.
    Mao was financed by the owners of our media.

  17. #44

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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/chrisbergPOVNOW/...80994821509121
    That's so they can cook the numbers so the numbers are so high to panic more people. The people will gladly roll up their sleeves to get the vaccine. It is also being thrown around that if you do not take this vaccine, you may not be able to work or travel. That's the Bill Gates agenda, btw.
    Proverbs 29:18
    "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

    Hosea 4:6
    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    That's so they can cook the numbers so the numbers are so high to panic more people. The people will gladly roll up their sleeves to get the vaccine. It is also being thrown around that if you do not take this vaccine, you may not be able to work or travel. That's the Bill Gates agenda, btw.
    American Oligarch charity consists of lobbying for taxpayers to pay for something, and government to force everyone to take it. They might chip in a bit for a hospital if they can get their name on it.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Believe what you will. Come to New York and ask someone if this is over exaggerated. Everyone I know knows people (friends, family members) who have been hospitalized or died. This isn’t the flu, this is a bioengineered virus which for some still unclear reasons, some people get extremely sick. Young included. Many 30-50 yo intubated at my hospital. Many with no former medical problems. To say this is like the flu is inaccurate. If they didn’t do these mitigation procedures, many many more people would have died than any flu season you have ever lived through. Maybe I wouldn’t believe it if I wasn’t living in the thick of it. But I know what I know and I see what I see. If someone doesn’t want to believe me, that’s fine. God is my witness.


    TER, do you have any updated information? On one hand I'm very skeptical of the numbers being reported. On the other hand I much respect the information you post.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by samforpaul View Post
    TER, do you have any updated information? On one hand I'm very skeptical of the numbers being reported. On the other hand I much respect the information you post.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.



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  23. #49
    From the Tom Woods Daily Newsletter:

    Here's something plenty of people have been wondering about:

    Is the number of COVID-19 deaths artificially elevated because it's being promiscuously blamed for all kinds of deaths?

    As with everything related to this virus, the answer is murky.

    Alex Berenson, the voice of reason on Twitter against Team Apocalypse, solicited answers to this question among medical professionals.

    A physician who's practiced in West Palm Beach for 31 years and signed hundreds of death certificates replied:

    "I believe that doctors are using death by COVID-19 as a convenient diagnosis when they don't really know what caused their death. Unless someone has tested + for the virus and had symptoms and died there is no way to attribute their death to COVID-19."

    Another physician, taking the opposite view, wrote:

    "There is a significant amount of people who are starting to believe that Covid deaths are being falsified. This cannot be further from the truth.... There's also the myth that people are dying with Covid and not of Covid. A terminally ill cancer patient who dies of the flu is a flu death and that is how it has been coded for years. It's no different with Covid."

    Still another physician says that doctors are

    "definitely erring on the side of coding everything COVID that presents with those symptoms.... This is going to result in real problems doing research on the disease. We need accurate death counts and accurate co-morbidity and pre-existing condition studies to understand the disease."

    The key questions we are trying to answer regarding the virus, he concludes, are "harder to answer if you have a bunch of false data included in the set."

    With good guys on both sides of this issue it's hard to know what to think.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

  24. #50
    The key questions we are trying to answer regarding the virus, he concludes, are "harder to answer if you have a bunch of false data included in the set."
    Everyone knows that. So, clearly, the politicians who are discouraging good scientific practices, and bribing hospitals to have COVID 19 deaths, know what they're doing and don't want scientists to have good data.

    I'm pretty sure they do have a reason for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Lol, wow, Anthony Weiner, too?

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    With good guys on both sides of this issue it's hard to know what to think.
    He fails to mention the financial motive. Due to stimulus funds, the hospitals get full reimbursement for medical expenses incurred before a COVID death, but they do not if it is not a COVID death.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'm pretty sure they do have a reason for that.
    As I just wrote in the other reply, due to stimulus funds, the hospitals get full reimbursement for medical expenses incurred before a COVID death, but they do not if it is not a COVID death.
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
    (1 John 4:18)

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    He fails to mention the financial motive. Due to stimulus funds, the hospitals get full reimbursement for medical expenses incurred before a COVID death, but they do not if it is not a COVID death.

    Nothing fishy there at all. Move along now, mundane. Nothing to see here.
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