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  1. #61
    He will turn on him like a spoiled child the first time Rand Paul defies him....



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Trump is now thanking the media for being so fair about this wonderful bailout bill.

    Next up he going to give Nancy Pelosi a big wet, sloppy kiss.
    it won't work, she's still PO'ed at him. he may have removed for now
    one of the reasons that would go into a 3rd Article of Impeachment. He
    has VEEP Pence as a body shield, managing the inter-agency task force.

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    He will turn on him like a spoiled child the first time Rand Paul defies him....
    Rand bucked on Trump over border wall funding. They got along fine after the fact.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    Rand bucked on Trump over border wall funding. They got along fine after the fact.
    Rand votes in line with Trump 69% of the time. The lowest of any GOP senator. Some how they remain friendly...

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ore/rand-paul/



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Rand votes in line with Trump 69% of the time. The lowest of any GOP senator. Some how they remain friendly...

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ore/rand-paul/
    They both know they are two of the few people in DC with good intentions.
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    He will turn on him like a spoiled child the first time Rand Paul defies him....
    Its simple. Trump doesn't know Massie, doesn't know his intentions. Some decent advisor probably told Trump the real reason after the fact. Most people were mad at Massie from the get go, after they understood it was for a recorded vote, they changed their mind. The media blew this up too, to make it look like a Republican was holding up the relief bill. Since Trump has gotten to know Rand and his intentions, he hasn't attacked even though Rand has stood up against some of Trump's favorite legislations.
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/mcmoynihan/statu...02895503835136
    Trump's toned down and complimented alot on the left since this Corona thing. Not sure if its to solidify the higher approval numbers hes been getting or perhaps a new campaign strategy for november.
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    DNCIA-SB (Soros, Brennan)
    CLINTON-PELO-SCHIFF
    NYT-CNN-SOCIALIST

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    At least we know for sure now that enabling Trump with slobbery praise doesn't get you anything.
    Gets you relief from being attacked by the entirety of the MSM and an army of shylls.

    Which is an interesting circumstance, considering how much the Deep State allegedly hates him.
    'I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag.'--Molly Ivins

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  11. #69
    Lots of positive comments for Massie at this article bashing him.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ie-vs-america/

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    They both know they are two of the few people in DC with good intentions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Rand votes in line with Trump 69% of the time. The lowest of any GOP senator. Some how they remain friendly...
    Unfortunately Rand has been willing to compromise principle a few times to appease Trump. Selling power for access. Known as the "Access trap" in politics.
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  13. #71
    It appears GOPA wing attacks have not initimidated Massie, he's looking to repeat his last call on next debt spending stimulting bill.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Need a lot more Massie’s next election
    Brakey and Gurtler are both great candidates.
    just me



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  16. #73
    Keep em comin Massie

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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Unfortunately Rand has been willing to compromise principle a few times to appease Trump. Selling power for access. Known as the "Access trap" in politics.
    What has he compromised on? He votes with Trump the lowest of any GOP seantor but still remains friendly with him. It's a puzzle because Massie has exactly the same voting record but in the House yet receives Trump's ire on twitter.

    Can you figure it out Matt ?

    I think its maybe because Rand is a senator and represents a state or is simply more famous than Massie and Donald likes celebrities more than say an unkown House member. That's maybe why he feels he can be the bully.
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  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    What has he compromised on?
    Gun control and Trump's appointments.
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  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Gun control and Trump's appointments.
    What has he compromised on gun control?

    On appointments he opposed the CIA director and I think Barr. But yes, he generally votes for the president's picks .
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  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    What has he compromised on gun control?

    On appointments he opposed the CIA director and I think Barr. But yes, he generally votes for the president's picks .
    #
    He voted for FixNICs and No-Fly-No-Buy. He also supported Pompeo and Kavanaugh which were grave and unforgiveable mistakes.
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  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    He voted for FixNICs and No-Fly-No-Buy. He also supported Pompeo and Kavanaugh which were grave and unforgiveable mistakes.
    He should NOT have voted for Fix NICs.

    However, he hasn't sold out otherwise why is he still opposing Trump on all the spending & Iran?
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  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    However, he hasn't sold out otherwise why is he still opposing Trump on all the spending & Iran?
    Yes voting for Kavanaugh and Pompeo is selling out.
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  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Yes voting for Kavanaugh and Pompeo is selling out.
    No its not selling out. It's not unusual for a senator to go with the party for nominations.

    If he really sold out he would be going along with all the deficit spending and cheerleading for war against Iran. He is making speeches opposing the president's policies in key areas unlike any other GOP senator who HAS truly sold out and is just there for the perks and paycheck .

    Mike Lee and Rand Paul are truly unique within their party and the WHOLE Senate, perhaps in 50 years. Quit trying to pretend they're not just because he voted for the president pick for an office (its not a big deal, they will get the office with or without Rand's vote).
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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Yes voting for Kavanaugh and Pompeo is selling out.
    You can see all Rand's votes here (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ore/rand-paul/).

    They include rebukes for the President on Yemen, Iran, budgets etc. And in some cases these votes are consequential and he would have had a lot of arm twisting to vote the other way.

    You make it sound like Rand is comparable to Lemar Alexander, Marco Rubio or Graham or any other of the gang i.e just go along with everything and incapable of independent thought.

    As you can see from the URL Rand votes with Trump the least of any senator...

    FreedomWorks Score: 98%

    http://congress.freedomworks.org/legislators/rand-paul

    You can see all the legislation there and how he has voted.

    JBS Score:94%

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=P000603

    Lots of details on legislation there and how Rand Paul voted.

    He has hardly 'sold out'
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  26. #82
    Reading these two statements together, it's fair to say that leadership of current Republicans breed (gopa wing) is one of a kind.


    Trump tweets: "Third rate grandstander" Massie is a disaster for Kentucky and America
    Trump: "Nancy Pelosi loves this country"

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    No its not selling out. It's not unusual for a senator to go with the party for nominations.

    If he really sold out he would be going along with all the deficit spending and cheerleading for war against Iran. He is making speeches opposing the president's policies in key areas unlike any other GOP senator who HAS truly sold out and is just there for the perks and paycheck .

    Mike Lee and Rand Paul are truly unique within their party and the WHOLE Senate, perhaps in 50 years. Quit trying to pretend they're not just because he voted for the president pick for an office (its not a big deal, they will get the office with or without Rand's vote).
    Yes voting to confirm an individual for office who is nearly 100% against your principles is selling out. In terms of Iran, Rand has gotten caught in the access trap where he is close to Trump but doesn't have any real power. Access is not power.
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  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Yes voting to confirm an individual for office who is nearly 100% against your principles is selling out. In terms of Iran, Rand has gotten caught in the access trap where he is close to Trump but doesn't have any real power. Access is not power.
    While finding common ground can be a useful tactic sometimes, in current situation wrt GOPA wing, your point is not without merit.

  29. #85
    Like does Donald John Trump think that the word "Libertarian" is as much of a four letter swear word, as the word Liberal OFTEN is.... for many of his Trumpster backers and supporters??? ----- Does he not realize that Doctor Rand needs the feedback from Representative Massie so Senator Rand can get an idea of what Congress is actually doing behind the scenes? i still think DJT has his own version of a classic Nixonian "enemies list" and can turn on a Watergate Hotel dime when the whim hits/subsumes him.

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    i still think DJT has his own version of a classic Nixonian "enemies list" and can turn on a Watergate Hotel dime when the whim hits/subsumes him.
    Wasn't the Nixon admin accused of allegedly spying on their political opponent by breaking into a hotel room and rifling through documents?

    Obama admin made up false evidence to get an illegal FISA warrant to use the security apparatus of the United States to spy on the Trump campaign, their political opponent.

    Which of the above two seems worse to you?

    When the arrests come, I hope you understand.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Like does Donald John Trump think that the word "Libertarian" is as much of a four letter swear word, as the word Liberal OFTEN is.... for many of his Trumpster backers and supporters???
    classic 1800s economic "liberals" were often not too libertine but they could be libertarian! FDR inspired a generation of NEW DEAL liberals.

    (dannno, dannno, dannno)

  32. #88
    Bill Weld even went full throttle into LIBERTARIANism, then he went back into the GOP just before he took on our current potus. i gotta show the guy some rEVOLution love. Briefly. i think he still is in the running. do i expect that he will get over the top by ballot number 80 at the next RNC? okaaaaaaay. there is Bud. There is Bud-Lite. there is COORs. there is COORs~Lite. think of the all wise MiTTSTER... then think of Bill Weld.
    Last edited by Aratus; 04-22-2020 at 09:06 PM. Reason: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/bill-weld-ends-presidential-campaign/index.html



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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/polit...ign/index.html



    Weld's long-shot bid was at one point focused on winning over moderate Republicans in New Hampshire. Trump won the New Hampshire primary in February with 85.7% of the vote, compared to Weld's 9.2%.
    Weld had some national name recognition from when he was the vice presidential nominee on the Libertarian ticket in 2016 with former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson. He was governor of New Hampshire's neighbor, Massachusetts, from 1991 to 1997, and won reelection there with more than 70% of the vote.
    Weld is a fierce critic of Trump, and, last April, he called for the President to resign. Weld wrote in an op-ed that Trump's "rampant dishonesty and paranoia render him incapable of serving as president."
    "It's time to plant a flag," Weld told CNN in a phone interview in the fall about why he launched a presidential bid. "Otherwise I'm right there with everyone else saying, 'Gee, I love the emperor's new clothes.' This emperor doesn't have any new clothes."

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    Trump is good friend

    of Rand but hates Massie.

    Makes no sense.
    yes and no. IMoHO...

    DJT can do a classic flipflop.

    admittedly not as often

    as the Mittster. but he CAN!

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