Thomas Massie may delay the bailout... Congress livid with him

[RonZeplin]

So vote for Biden?

Vote for Vermin Supreme, Austin Peterson, or Justin Amash etc....

Just say NO to jagoffs.

[familydog]

Massie is quite possibly committing political suicide by doing this. He will not stop the bill and he will change very few minds. He is the only good Congressman in the House. I hope he knows what he is doing.

[Theocrat]

So vote for Biden?

You're a Trump supporter, so you already have a "Biden" in office; he's just able to remember his lines, unlike the real Biden.

[Warlord]

If you needed more proof that Massie is the new Ron Paul then this is it. The viciousness of opposition from both Left and Right and yet Thomas will take it in his stride just like Dr. Paul.

I hope he stays strong. There is already a backlash :

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Tweet-is-BS%92

[Theocrat]

Massie is quite possibly committing political suicide by doing this. He will not stop the bill and he will change very few minds. He is the only good Congressman in the House. I hope he knows what he is doing.

Actually, what Rep. Massie is doing is brilliant. He's calling out all the so-called conservatives to account for their values by pushing them to vote for something which reveals that they're not truly conservatives.

[phill4paul]

Vote for Vermin Supreme, Austin Peterson, or Justin Amash etc....

Just say NO to jagoffs.

No. I'd rather not this go around.

[familydog]

Actually, what Rep. Massie is doing is brilliant. He's calling out all the so-called conservatives to account for their values by pushing them to vote for something which reveals that they're not truly conservatives.

I don't disagree. However, will his constituents find him brilliant at the ballot box?

[RonZeplin]

If you needed more proof that Massie is the new Ron Paul then this is it. The viciousness of opposition from both Left and Right and yet Thomas will take it in his stride just like Dr. Paul.

I hope he stays strong. There is already a backlash :

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Tweet-is-BS%92

This ^^^^

+rep

[JoshLowry]

So we are to believe...

Trump is team good guy trying to basically be Lincoln and keep the country from shattering (I understand this) while Massie is wrench throwing agent for royal death family. (I have a severe case of cognitive dissonance over that)

I'm going to have to form an opinion after all this smoke clears. These puzzle pieces don't fit together.

[Theocrat]

I don't disagree. However, will his constituents find him brilliant at the ballot box?

How do you think Rep. Massie was able to get elected, in the first place? They know where his feet are standing.

[nikcers]

I only hope that Massie can see the irony in abusing his power to delay the vote that would pass regardless that bails out the medical industrial complex that we depend on to keep us living in order to protest the liberal establishment economic terrorism that created this crisis.

[Warlord]

'Back off' says TX Congressman:

[Theocrat]

I only hope that Massie can see the irony in abusing his power to delay the vote that would pass regardless that bails out the medical industrial complex that we depend on to keep us living in order to protest the liberal establishment economic terrorism that created this crisis.

So, yeah, $#@! the U.S. Constitution.

[familydog]

How do you think Rep. Massie was able to get elected, in the first place? They know where his feet are standing.

Which other "no" vote has he taken that would be comparable to this one?

[acptulsa]

I only hope that Massie can see the irony in abusing his power to delay the vote that would pass regardless that bails out the medical industrial complex that we depend on to keep us living in order to protest the liberal establishment economic terrorism that created this crisis.

How is he delaying it?

He is allegedly delaying it by insisting his colleagues vote on the record. If it's such a marvelous, necessary, save our asses bill, why wouldn't all these self-styled knights on white horses want to go on the record voting for it?

[JoshLowry]

He is allegedly delaying it by insisting his colleagues vote on the record. If it's such a marvelous, necessary, save our asses bill, why wouldn't all these self-styled knights on white horses want to go on the record voting for it?

Well said.

[Theocrat]

Which other "no" vote has he taken that would be comparable to this one?

Any vote of his in which he votes "Nay" because the bill wasn't in accordance with the U.S. Constitution would be comparable to this one, familydog. Is it wrong for Rep. Massie to take a stand for the rule of law?

[nikcers]

So, yeah, $#@! the U.S. Constitution.

At what human cost is it worth if the delay has unintended consequences and does not win any hearts ands minds to our cause. I would argue this is pointless and could delay medication or healthcare in a time of need.

[Brian4Liberty]

So Trump wants everyone to give in to Nancy Pelosi.

[sdsubball23]

I'm curious to know. What is the libertarian response to helping Americans who are in need financially during a difficult time such as this? If you guys don't support a stimulus bill such as this, what is the alternative?

[phill4paul]

You're a Trump supporter, so you already have a "Biden" in office; he's just able to remember his lines, unlike the real Biden.

I'm a realist. Go back to before the election and read my posts on Trump. But, unlike 'Never-Trumpers,' I've watched what he has accomplished. For the good. And the bad. And if you can't find any good then you are a 'Never-Trumper.'
You like to think about what you would do if you were POTUS. But, you have no idea what is like. Hell, the only one on these boards that has ever gotten anywhere is Glen Bradley, and his tenure, though the epitome of this boards ideals, was redistricted. For his unmovable beliefs.
Trump, more than any POTUS in our time, has tried to dismantle regulations and unfair trade practices. He's set new records in employment. Even now his directives are changing the rules of the alphabet agencies enacted under the Obama administration.
He's facing the prospect of all his gains that started lifting unemployed Americans off welfare, and therefore out of socialism, evaporating.
Sure would like to see how you would fare under these circumstances. But, we won't. Because, at best, you're an armchair quarterback. Let me know when you at least get a state house seat.

[Brian4Liberty]

At what human cost is it worth if the delay has unintended consequences and does not win any hearts ands minds to our cause. I would argue this is pointless and could delay medication or healthcare in a time of need.

It won’t delay any real medical care. This is a financial bill to bail out banks, airlines and other crony corporatists.

[nikcers]

How is he delaying it?

He is allegedly delaying it by insisting his colleagues vote on the record. If it's such a marvelous, necessary, save our asses bill, why wouldn't all these self-styled knights on white horses want to go on the record voting for it?

Why do you think i mentioned liberal establishment economic terrorism.

[acptulsa]

At what human cost is it worth if the delay has unintended consequences and does not win any hearts ands minds to our cause. I would argue this is pointless and could delay medication or healthcare in a time of need.

What is Massive delaying? What is the delay? What?

All they have to do to "thwart" this "grandstanding" is vote on the record. Why haven't they done it?

[Theocrat]

At what human cost is it worth if the delay has unintended consequences and does not win any hearts ands minds to our cause. I would argue this is pointless and could delay medication or healthcare in a time of need.

Who says that a human cost exists if the legislation doesn't pass in a timely fashion? You're assuming that.

[KEEF]

How is he delaying it?

He is allegedly delaying it by insisting his colleagues vote on the record. If it's such a marvelous, necessary, save our asses bill, why wouldn't all these self-styled knights on white horses want to go on the record voting for it?

This

[familydog]

Any vote of his in which he votes "Nay" because the bill wasn't in accordance with the U.S. Constitution would be comparable to this one, familydog. Is it wrong for Rep. Massie to take a stand for the rule of law?

Don't misunderstand me. I am not disagreeing with his principles. I call him the only good Congressman left for a reason. However, I'm also realistic enough to know that voting against this is potentially political suicide. People are scared. Scared people do not vote rationally and the voters can sometimes have long memories.

[Brian4Liberty]

I'm curious to know. What is the libertarian response to helping Americans who are in need financially during a difficult time such as this? If you guys don't support a stimulus bill such as this, what is the alternative?

While IU is not exactly libertarian, it is an existing program, and is intended to be the first line of defense. It is a safety net just waiting to be utilized. If it can not be used when needed, it should be abolished.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ks-to-Everyone

[nikcers]

It won’t delay any real medical care. This is a financial bill to bail out banks, airlines and other crony corporatists.

The medical system which we already spend /6 of the economy on could not handle the load if everyone got sick. They lobbied the government to send people home so they don't get sick. If the medical system red lined hard enough there would be rioting to get rid of the medical industrial complex. I $#@!ing guarantee it.

[phill4paul]

I'm curious to know. What is the libertarian response to helping Americans who are in need financially during a difficult time such as this? If you guys don't support a stimulus bill such as this, what is the alternative?

A lifetime of keeping your own money and investing it how you wish. And if you are unwise..then $#@!-off and start all over again.